Welcome to the comp, Redcliffe.

[beave]

NQ should have been the Marlins. 90% of NQers live near the ocean and the RL rep teams were/are known as that moniker.

 

[ReddFelon]

Leagues club members don't equal football club fans.

Besides, I don't think it would have mattered what name you gave an AFL team on the GC, they were always going to struggle for a generation or two.

There's no doubting that branding is important, but broadly speaking I think it's influence is highly overstated on here, and a lot of people have a tendency to confuse brands they personally don't like for bad brands.

Yes and no, I'm a Southport Sharks member for the all you can eat seafood, but most people here on the GC associate the Sharks with success. You routinely hear about the other AFC's complaining that all their kids leave to go play for Southport.

You're not wrong that new teams tend to struggle, but a lot of Southport fans were turned off by the refusal, mainly because they'd spent decades campaigning to be the team, much like Port Adelaide. They pull a few thousand to reserve grade games.

 

[Pippen94]

Redcliffe Dolphins joined Brisbane comp 1960. Miami Dolphins established 1966.

I thought 1947

 

[The_Frog]

I thought 1947

They were in a lower tier comp and known as the Shellgrit from 1947.

 

[Pippen94]

They were in a lower tier comp and known as the Shellgrit from 1947.

Funny ppl complain about name then

 

[xe_kilroy]

Oooh now theres a cool ye olde name

 

[The Great Dane]

Yes and no, I'm a Southport Sharks member for the all you can eat seafood, but most people here on the GC associate the Sharks with success. You routinely hear about the other AFC's complaining that all their kids leave to go play for Southport.

You're not wrong that new teams tend to struggle, but a lot of Southport fans were turned off by the refusal, mainly because they'd spent decades campaigning to be the team, much like Port Adelaide. They pull a few thousand to reserve grade games.

Being associated with success doesn't change the fact that leagues club's appeal to a broad section of society independent of football, and that the vast majority of the members of all leagues clubs aren't active fans of that club's team and never will be. I'd even be willing to bet that in most cases the majority of a LC's membership whom do actively support a team support one other than the LC's team.

A few thousand active supporters also isn't enough to support an AFL team, nor would it make a significant impact on the Suns numbers if we assume you could merge the two fanbases.

I'd also be highly sceptical of the claim that they average a few thousand per game, if that is what you are actually claiming, but that's neither here nor there.

 

[mongoose]

Being associated with success doesn't change the fact that leagues club's appeal to a broad section of society independent of football, and that the vast majority of the members of all leagues clubs aren't active fans of that club's team and never will be. I'd even be willing to bet that in most cases the majority of a LC's membership whom do actively support a team support one other than the LC's team.

A few thousand active supporters also isn't enough to support an AFL team, nor would it make a significant impact on the Suns numbers if we assume you could merge the two fanbases.

I'd also be highly sceptical of the claim that they average a few thousand per game, if that is what you are actually claiming, but that's neither here nor there.

Don't the Panthers have 150k Leagues club members or thereabouts? imagine if they could boast those numbers as their members.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

Don't the Panthers have 150k Leagues club members or thereabouts? imagine if they could boast those numbers as their members.

If they charged them an extra $2 a year FC member fee then they could.

 

[Perth Red]

If they charged them an extra $2 a year FC member fee then they could.

And lose money doing so?

 

[The Great Dane]

Don't the Panthers have 150k Leagues club members or thereabouts? imagine if they could boast those numbers as their members.

The Raiders have five Leagues clubs in the ACT/Queanbeyan alone.

I don't know what their membership numbers are, but combined it'd be well over 150k, yet the Raiders only have 24k football club members.

 

[Perth Red]

People don’t generally join a leagues club because they are a fan of the football team lol

 

[RedVee]

People don’t generally join a leagues club because they are a fan of the football team lol

True now, but in the olden days we did - at least in a larger degree than now.
Originally you joined to support the team and getting a beer and feed was part of it. Now you join to gamble and get a schnitty and drink.

Also when I was a kid, and before that, a percentage of people would change teams when they moved house.

Now that never happens really, in my experience, say moving from Leichhardt to Emu Plains in my generation, the Dad would be a Tiger and mostly the kids would be but some of that and the next gen would be Panthers.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

I was a member of South Sydney LC way before the FC because that’s what I thought it was.

 

[Canard]

From 82 onwards, you can look a trend of what NFL teams were doing well (either winning Superbowls or making them) and their names were then taken by the new NSWRL/ARL/NRL teams.

All these teams appropriated there names from the NFL in some way (whether they had relevant to the region or area)

- Steelers
-Raiders
-Giants
-Broncos
-Cowboys

Funnily enough the Dolphins existed as a name well before I believe the NFL was even commonly known about in Australia, so I suggest there name was the most organic of the lot.

For mine the NQ Cowboys should be been the NQ Crocodiles (and no the Townsville NBL side wasn't called the Crocodiles in 1995, they were the Suns at this time)

 

[Perth Red]

Still lament us letting this brand disappear, one of the best and most Australian! (not sure about the ball sack on end of his nose though lol)

 

[The Axe of Druss]

100%, I always found it weird that NQ are the Cowboys. It's Australia we call them Stockmen, Ringers, Jackaroos.

But it's NQ, so I don't know why they didn't just go with Bulls.

Unless they are refering to dodgy tradesmen who do shit work on the cheap

 

[beave]

double

 

[beave]

From 82 onwards, you can look a trend of what NFL teams were doing well (either winning Superbowls or making them) and their names were then taken by the new NSWRL/ARL/NRL teams.

All these teams appropriated there names from the NFL in some way (whether they had relevant to the region or area)

- Steelers
-Raiders
-Giants
-Broncos
-Cowboys

Funnily enough the Dolphins existed as a name well before I believe the NFL was even commonly known about in Australia, so I suggest there name was the most organic of the lot.

For mine the NQ Cowboys should be been the NQ Crocodiles (and no the Townsville NBL side wasn't called the Crocodiles in 1995, they were the Suns at this time)

Crocodiles was initially chosen as a trial name but one of the local Rugby Union rep teams kicked up a stink about it because their teams utilise the same nickname so it was dropped. Marty Bella went up for a guest speaking appearance and wore a bid team shirt with crocs on it and got pictured for the Tvl Bully and the Union fruitcakes carried on about it.

From memory Cowboys was chosen because when Boustead and his wife moved up to Tvl to start the process of getting the team into the league, the baggage handlers lost their luggage on the flight from Sydney so they had to wear XXXX promo gear for a couple of days whilst the airline found their shit. Apparently his missus blew up and said 'what are these people, a bunch of cowboys!?!!!?' and Boustead thought it was a good name for the team and that gave birth to what we have now......

Still reckon Marlins was a better name.......

 

[beave]

People don’t generally join a leagues club because they are a fan of the football team lol

You're dead wrong mate, because that is exactly what used to happen. Leagues clubs were created to support the football team, that's why football club membership was never really pushed until 8-9 years ago.