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[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Look at the glory, don't look at the glory, look at the force, don't look at the force.
You know nothing outside of Brisbane and I'm being generous.

Now you're just rambling like a lunatic. Actually, you've been rambling like a lunatic for ages. None of your posts make any sense. You're incapable of following a discussion. Nor can you back up anything you say.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

No one has said anything different, bad news for you is that they'll have a lot of money.

Prove it.

The Force couldn't compete with the Reds, Waratahs, Brumbies and Rebels. Not even the money supplied by Twiggy Forrest made a difference.

Peter Cummins ain't Twiggy Forrest. He was part of the Western Reds administration.

How did they go?

Oh that's right. They failed miserably.

 

[Bukowski]

Prove it.

The Force couldn't compete with the Reds, Waratahs, Brumbies and Rebels. Not even the money supplied by Twiggy Forrest made a difference.

Peter Cummins ain't Twiggy Forrest. He was part of the Western Reds administration.

How did they go?

Oh that's right. They failed miserably.

Back to union again. Wrong sport champ. And twiggy got involved AFTER they got booted. Have you got any clue?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Back to union again. Wrong sport champ. And twiggy got involved AFTER they got booted. Have you got any clue?

You're deflecting.

Back up your claim that a Perth-based NRL team will have lots of money.

I doubt it'll be much bigger than the Titans or a small Sydney club.

 

[Bukowski]

You're deflecting.

Back up your claim that a Perth-based NRL team will have lots of money.

I doubt it'll be much bigger than the Titans or a small Sydney club.

Lots of money here, no backwards thinking 'pokies only' funding types.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Lots of money here, no backwards thinking 'pokies only' funding types.

So why did the Reds go bust in 1995?

If it wasn't for News Ltd they wouldn't have gotten through the season.

Wildcats have experienced financial problems in their history.

Eagles needed to be bailed out by Indian Pacific in the late 80s.

 

[Perth Red]

That was in the NSL days. The club was dominant on the pitch back in the late 90s and early 00s. I know because I watched the NSL on Optus Vision back in the day.

Perth is also dominated by AFL - a battle rugby union side Western Force were never able to overcome due to their lack of success.​

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The Force boasted huge crowds in their first few years. But season after season of poor results soon saw those crowds dwindle, until they were axed last year because of financial reasons.​

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Cameron Smith backs NRL team for Perth

amp.smh.com.au

Wildcats went for more than 30 seasons before dropping out of the top four on the ladder and won more titles than any other club.

Heading into another new year on top of the NBL ladder, the Perth Wildcats are set to break a world record that has stood in professional sports for two decades.​

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The Wildcats need only to hold on to a top-four position by the end of next month to break the international record of 29 consecutive play-off appearances, set by the Boston Bruins in the National Hockey League from 1968 to 1996, to lift the new global mark to 30.​

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It is a remarkable streak of sustained success that has endured a raft of both on-court and off-court difficulties, including player roster changes and financial woes, to remain intact.​

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Why Perth Wildcats are world's greatest team

NBL heavyweights are set to break a world record that has stood in professional sports for two decades.

thewest.com.au

Can you now see why I've been saying a Perth-based team will need a lot of money?

The club will need an operational budget similar to the Broncos to get the best juniors from SEQ before they're picked up by the Broncos, Dolphins, Storm and Roosters. They'll also need to look at Gosford and NZ.

Thanks for agreeing with me! You’ve finally understood that for a club, mostly anywhere not just perth, to get big crowds it needs to be well run on and off the field.geez that took you some getting to!

 

[Perth Red]

So why did the Reds go bust in 1995?

If it wasn't for News Ltd they wouldn't have gotten through the season.

Wildcats have experienced financial problems in their history.

Eagles needed to be bailed out by Indian Pacific in the late 80s.

Oh you didn’t just bring up 1995 again dI’d you? Lol

 

[Perth Red]

Prove it.

The Force couldn't compete with the Reds, Waratahs, Brumbies and Rebels. Not even the money supplied by Twiggy Forrest made a difference.

Peter Cummins ain't Twiggy Forrest. He was part of the Western Reds administration.

How did they go?

Oh that's right. They failed miserably.

For a cowboys fan, a bit hypocritical to be calling others you remember when your club sold it soul and arse and was owned by news ltd Because they were unsustainable?

Thankfully we aren’t union and we aren’t in 1995!

 

[Bukowski]

So why did the Reds go bust in 1995?

If it wasn't for News Ltd they wouldn't have gotten through the season.

Wildcats have experienced financial problems in their history.

Eagles needed to be bailed out by Indian Pacific in the late 80s.

Look at you, the expert on perth. You thought the basketball team was called the heat.
Crushers and a shit load of gold coast clubs went bust too. Sorry no B3 for you. Theyll go broke.

 

[Bukowski]

Oh you didn’t just bring up 1995 again dI’d you? Lol

At least it is a rugby league reference. It's a big step for him

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Thanks for agreeing with me! You’ve finally understood that for a club, mostly anywhere not just perth, to get big crowds it needs to be well run on and off the field.geez that took you some getting to!

You said a Perth-based club will average 18k fans to its games and be one of the highest earning clubs in the NRL.

You're delusional.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

For a cowboys fan, a bit hypocritical to be calling others you remember when your club sold it soul and arse and was owned by news ltd Because they were unsustainable?

Thankfully we aren’t union and we aren’t in 1995!

Arthurson and Quayle f**ked up admitting the Cowboys in 1995. The club lacked the infrastructure. The loan it took out to build a stadium at Willows and having to cover the travel and accommodation costs of away teams was too much for them.

The reason News Ltd kept the Cowboys around post-SL was because they drew more revenue from corporate hospitality than most other clubs, courtesy of the massive attendances that flocked to Willows.

The Reds were punted because they were playing in front of 8k fans at the WACA.

 

[mongoose]

Arthurson and Quayle f**ked up admitting the Cowboys in 1995. The club lacked the infrastructure. The loan it took out to build a stadium at Willows and having to cover the travel and accommodation costs of away teams was too much for them.

The reason News Ltd kept the Cowboys around post-SL was because they drew more revenue from corporate hospitality than most other clubs, courtesy of the massive attendances that flocked to Willows.

The Reds were punted because they were playing in front of 8k fans at the WACA.

Crushers and Chargers got punted too, so why are you still in favour of more SEQLD teams? SEQLD couldn't even sustain 2 Professional League teams in the 90s, pathetic.

 

[Perth Red]

You said a Perth-based club will average 18k fans to its games and be one of the highest earning clubs in the NRL.

You're delusional.

Now you’re just bs’ing! I said a well run club has the potential to aVg 18k if hbf park is upgraded or if we use optus for a couple of big games. I’ve said all along Perth has the potential for a starting point of 20k members and 15k+ crowd avg

nowhere have I said they’ll be the highest earning! I said there is no reason they can not be sustainable. Thers a lot of wealth in perth, companies wanting stronger reach into the east coast market, a $17mill + nrl grant and a wa govt wanting to make it work. add in a 20k active fan base and bingo! And no pokies needed.

are you pippen all along? You certainly now sound like him.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Crushers and a shit load of gold coast clubs went bust too. Sorry no B3 for you. Theyll go broke.

Chargers were the only team based on the Gold Coast. They had money in the bank when News Ltd demanded they be culled so the Broncos could have SEQ all to itself.

The Giants/Seagulls were based in Tweed Heads.

Don't you know anything about RL history?

The sorry tale of the Crushers sums up the folly of creating teams from scratch in a hostile environment. A Perth-based team will face tougher trials and tribulations than the Crushers.

The Dolphins were ridiculed on here for being a traditional BRL club. The irony is their status as a traditional BRL club allowed them to generate a strong asset base over 30 years to handle the financial burdens of running an NRL club. Their success off the field has provided them with the security that new entitlies, such as the Titans and a Perth-based consortium, lack. Brisbane Tigers have security to ensure they don't end up like all the other expansion teams that crumpled under the debt of trying to build from scratch.

If Perth gets a team it will be through the Bears or Jets.

Why do you think V'landys told the WA Gov to talk to the Bears?

He doesn't want a repeat of 1995 and the Titans.

 

[Perth Red]

Arthurson and Quayle f**ked up admitting the Cowboys in 1995. The club lacked the infrastructure. The loan it took out to build a stadium at Willows and having to cover the travel and accommodation costs of away teams was too much for them.

The reason News Ltd kept the Cowboys around post-SL was because they drew more revenue from corporate hospitality than most other clubs, courtesy of the massive attendances that flocked to Willows.

The Reds were punted because they were playing in front of 8k fans at the WACA.

Haha you hypocrite, so perth playing in a sht stadium and paying huge travel costs wasnt a legit reason for financial issues but exact same for cowboys was?

If anything cowboys viability now, all be it still needing pokie funding, shows how stupid it was to cut perth.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Haha you hypocrite, so perth playing in a sht stadium and paying huge travel costs wasnt a legit reason for financial issues but exact same for cowboys was?

That's not what I said. Go back and read what you quoted to see what I actually said. Specifically the part about the Cowboys needing to take out a loan to build a stadium at Willows.

The Western Reds didn't take out a loan to build a stadium. They played at a cricket ground that was built decades earlier by the WACA.

To argue that the Cowboys having to cover the costs of building a stadium from scratch at a discontinued horse racing venue is "exact same" as playing out of a cricket ground that was built decades earlier is just plain dumb.

If anything cowboys viability now, all be it still needing pokie funding, shows how stupid it was to cut perth.

Knock off the lies.

The Cowboys generate over $22m from football operations. Only the Broncos generate more money from this stream. You know this as you've seen the annual reports and posted the figures on here.

I've seen you argue that a Perth-based club will be able to generate as much money from football operations as the Cowboys do.

Perth Reds were cut in October 1997 because they were financially destitute and lacked a viable fanbase.

Are you stupid enough to think News Ltd and the ARL were going to keep funnelling money into a team that averaged 8.5k to its games, despite having a strong roster?

The only reason the Cowboys made the cut was because they had a strong fanbase. Stop blaming everyone else for Perth's refusal to support the Reds when the club needed it.

 

[docbrown]

Well said! Wipe the smirk off that merkin's face!

 

[Dragonwest]

That's not what I said. Go back and read what you quoted to see what I actually said. Specifically the part about the Cowboys needing to take out a loan to build a stadium at Willows.

The Western Reds didn't take out a loan to build a stadium. They played at a cricket ground that was built decades earlier by the WACA.

To argue that the Cowboys having to cover the costs of building a stadium from scratch at a discontinued horse racing venue is "exact same" as playing out of a cricket ground that was built decades earlier is just plain dumb.



Knock off the lies.

The Cowboys generate over $22m from football operations. Only the Broncos generate more money from this stream. You know this as you've seen the annual reports and posted the figures on here.

I've seen you argue that a Perth-based club will be able to generate as much money from football operations as the Cowboys do.

Perth Reds were cut in October 1997 because they were financially destitute and lacked a viable fanbase.

Are you stupid enough to think News Ltd and the ARL were going to keep funnelling money into a team that averaged 8.5k to its games, despite having a strong roster?

The only reason the Cowboys made the cut was because they had a strong fanbase. Stop blaming everyone else for Perth's refusal to support the Reds when the club needed it.

The Reds were cut to make way for a Melbourne team. A Melbourne team was request by Foxtel / News Limited as part of the competition merger as they didn't have any penetrations into the Victorian market ... they didn't have the AFL at that stage.