What a rort!

[Generalzod]

It's was in Sydney Numb nuts!!

Regardless they didn't come to Smith..

 

[Stormwarrior82]

I just can't see why this game would be such an issue.

Smith, Thurston and Slater could be mic'd up.
Smith could even referee a bit of the game.
The fullbacks could play 4s and backs.
It could be fun and entertaining, fan orientated game. If you don't want to watch the game fine, but why stop the qld/storm/cowboys fans from doing so.

 

[RockWheel]

I just can't see why this game would be such an issue.

Smith, Thurston and Slater could be mic'd up.
Smith could even referee a bit of the game.
The fullbacks could play 4s and backs.
It could be fun and entertaining, fan orientated game. If you don't want to watch the game fine, but why stop the qld/storm/cowboys fans from doing so.

Nothing wrong with the game. Problem is players being paid outside the cap. Pretty easy to understand.

 

[blaza88z]

You are all miserable muppets. I have no reason to doubt this article but the fact it seems written from a negative nsw biased view shows nsw fans just don't get it. It will no doubt be slaters last year as well. The $$ figures would be rubbery at best and I'm sure the qld gov would be promoting the game as well as it would bring fans into the city.

We in qld like to support and follow our Qld superstars. Not only are they qld superstars but 2 future immortals. 2 of the best players to lace on a boot in over 100 yrs of rugby league. Now forget your nsw bias and hate towards Qlders for a minute and surely it's not a bad thing to allow 2 future immortals a golden handshake. Really it's the least the Nrl could do.

From a Nrl hierarchy point of view I would probably try and tie this game to a post career marketing contract to promote the game once they retire.

Do you think gallen could sellout a local maccas let alone a stadium?

You're an idiot, take that from a QLD supporter too.

This whole concept is ridiculous because it can potentially be very dangerous going forward as clubs will find a way to mold these "tribute" games into their cap negotiations when signing an elite player.. you know "we'll give you 200k less but promise you a tribute game".

I get it, promote the game, promote the players.. but this is ridiculous, there are other ways to promote the game without lining the pockets of some of our best paid players already, Cam Smith is one of the best players of all time but a lot of fans won't remember him for that, what they'll remember is the systematic cheating that occurred at his club and now with this, it's easy to see what motivates Cam the Accountant to continue playing.

JT though, good luck to him. If anyone should be promoted it should be JT, I couldn't care less about Cameron Smith.

 

[Generalzod]

I just can't see why this game would be such an issue.

Smith, Thurston and Slater could be mic'd up.
Smith could even referee a bit of the game.
The fullbacks could play 4s and backs.
It could be fun and entertaining, fan orientated game. If you don't want to watch the game fine, but why stop the qld/storm/cowboys fans from doing so.

So we can listen to this shiit: go to the 4:00 minute mark...

 

[adamkungl]

Nothing wrong with the game. Problem is players being paid outside the cap. Pretty easy to understand.

And the privilege is only extended to a very select few.
Ok Smith and Thurston are very good at football. That's not a criteria.
There are loads of players who have cleared 300 games, played lots of Origins and for Australia, been one club players.
None of them have or will be given the privilege to sell club products outside of their salary and have it go straight into their pocket.

If the NRL comes out and says all players can receive a % of personalised merchandise or 300 game players can have a testimonial match, fine. Probably a good thing. But as usual it's made up as they go for the benefit of whoever they feel like at the time, with the added bonus of the recipient being the head of the players union AND a recipient of previous cap rorting.

If you can't see what the problem is you're a f**king simpleton, basically.

Here's hoping it's a typical Rothfield nonsense story but it seems Peak Greenberg NRL tbh.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

The fullbacks could play 4s and backs.

wot?

I just can't see why this game would be such an issue.

Smith, Thurston and Slater could be mic'd up.
Smith could even referee a bit of the game.
The fullbacks could play 4s and backs.
It could be fun and entertaining, fan orientated game. If you don't want to watch the game fine, but why stop the qld/storm/cowboys fans from doing so.

 

[Stormwarrior82]

You're an idiot, take that from a QLD supporter too.

This whole concept is ridiculous because it can potentially be very dangerous going forward as clubs will find a way to mold these "tribute" games into their cap negotiations when signing an elite player.. you know "we'll give you 200k less but promise you a tribute game".

I get it, promote the game, promote the players.. but this is ridiculous, there are other ways to promote the game without lining the pockets of some of our best paid players already, Cam Smith is one of the best players of all time but a lot of fans won't remember him for that, what they'll remember is the systematic cheating that occurred at his club and now with this, it's easy to see what motivates Cam the Accountant to continue playing.

JT though, good luck to him. If anyone should be promoted it should be JT, I couldn't care less about Cameron Smith.

Haha so it's ok for Jt but not smith? Your bias is ridiculous. Thurston had quite a few issues back in the day to remember. He's no angel.

Tribute games are decided by the Nrl hierarchy and shouldn't be given out lightly.

I have no problem accepting your opinions, I just believe that life long superstars, future immortals, 1 team players, nrl legends, can be entitled to a golden handshake. Everyone else will benefit from the game as well.

Gallen/Sbw makes money from fighting in the off season? What's the difference? Is that counted to the cap?

 

[Nice Beaver]

I'll have what he's having

I sadly think its a genetics issue.

 

[papabear]

Not missing the point at all and I can accept your reasoning to a point. But like what the Rlpa are arguing with the Nrl about is the issue over players IP.

So your ok for the clubs to benefit financially from the game but not the players? I think that is even worse.

Now if the game did happen it would have to happen 8 weeks after the World Cup final. 2/3 future immortals playing a game that will add $$ to the Brisbane economy, potentially Increase exposure to Victoria/Australia wide for the Nrl, advertising revenue from tv broadcast/radio etc. so everyone bar the players who the game is for should benefit? Hmmm

Just because the RLPA makes the argument doesnt mean that argument has any weight or is for the betterment of Rugby League.

The players of the game do benefit, inside the cap payments to just the top 25/30 will be 9.2M x 16 next year, thats $147M of benefit within the cap (not including additional cap relief payments like loyal player payments etc), thats not including players getting TPA's and second tier caps, junior scholarships etc etc.

The one group that benefits the most from Rugby League is the players, that is why rugby league exists and was created.

Thus, if you want to make money playing rugby league play for a club and your payments come out of your cap, if you want to make money from your image go do an advertisement for a company that loves your personal brand so much that has nothing to do with your club (see TPA's and what a rort they have become).

But playing a game of rugby league for "charity" when the vast proportion of the proceeds go to two currently contracted players is absolutely absurd, I would say the same thing if it was Ricky Stuart / Daley / Fittler / Johns / Meninga whomever. This has absolutely nothing to do with state lines and everything to do with cheating.

Cheating, which melbourne have a very strong track record of doing so already.

 

[papabear]

Haha so it's ok for Jt but not smith? Your bias is ridiculous. Thurston had quite a few issues back in the day to remember. He's no angel.

Tribute games are decided by the Nrl hierarchy and shouldn't be given out lightly.

I have no problem accepting your opinions, I just believe that life long superstars, future immortals, 1 team players, nrl legends, can be entitled to a golden handshake. Everyone else will benefit from the game as well.

Gallen/Sbw makes money from fighting in the off season? What's the difference? Is that counted to the cap?

The Salary Cap is for Rugby League and have nothing to do with boxing.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Gallen/Sbw makes money from fighting in the off season? What's the difference? Is that counted to the cap?

What a daft comparison. Fact number 1, Sonny Bill-Williams is not a current NRL player he is a Union player. As such whatever he does is irrelevant regarding the salary cap.

Fact 2, it is not an event being organised by the Cronulla Sharks, any NRL club nor endorsed by the NRL administration.

When you can find a like for like comparison wake me instead of carrying on with your naff ramblings.

p.s.

The only player I'm aware of that the Roosters have given a testimonial to was Luke Ricketson in 2002. Even then it was not a tribute game, it was tribute dinner at Randwick Racecourse. No other Roosters player has had one since.

 

[Stormwarrior82]

wot?

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I was reminiscing an old state of origin game when the players did that. Tennis and cricket both have fun, entertaining, fan engaged games. Why would that be so bad?

And the privilege is only extended to a very select few.
Ok Smith and Thurston are very good at football. That's not a criteria.
There are loads of players who have cleared 300 games, played lots of Origins and for Australia, been one club players.
None of them have or will be given the privilege to sell club products outside of their salary and have it go straight into their pocket.

If the NRL comes out and says all players can receive a % of personalised merchandise or 300 game players can have a testimonial match, fine. Probably a good thing. But as usual it's made up as they go for the benefit of whoever they feel like at the time, with the added bonus of the recipient being the head of the players union AND a recipient of previous cap rorting.

If you can't see what the problem is you're a f**king simpleton, basically.

Here's hoping it's a typical Rothfield nonsense story but it seems Peak Greenberg NRL tbh.

Times have changed. Past players got what they were entitled to. The Rlpa are sticking stronger than even and are wanting there slice of the pie. Rightfully or wrongfully I believe they deserve that. There intellectual Property is part of that pie.

If you were in there position, would you feel it's fair that everyone else benefits financially bar them? The Nrl would, the qld governement would.

Maybe Chris higheington, luke Lewis, gallen from cronulla could sellout Anz?

 

[Nice Beaver]

Lol

Stormywarrior. Mate....you just don't get it. Not in the slightest.

 

[Stormwarrior82]

Storms salary cap punishment happened 7 years ago. I think some people need to grow up and move on. It's a completely different situation.

Gallen can go away in the offeseason and participate/promote another sport and gain financially but Smith/Thurston can't do the same within our game? Even though it would promote OUR game. That doesn't seem right...

Would you all be happy if the Nrl stopped the financial benefit on that specific game day and then when they retired pay them then?

 

[Angry_eel]

Smith will end up owning the NRL one day!

 

[Stormwarrior82]

And the privilege is only extended to a very select few.
Ok Smith and Thurston are very good at football. That's not a criteria.
There are loads of players who have cleared 300 games, played lots of Origins and for Australia, been one club players.
None of them have or will be given the privilege to sell club products outside of their salary and have it go straight into their pocket.

If the NRL comes out and says all players can receive a % of personalised merchandise or 300 game players can have a testimonial match, fine. Probably a good thing. But as usual it's made up as they go for the benefit of whoever they feel like at the time, with the added bonus of the recipient being the head of the players union AND a recipient of previous cap rorting.

If you can't see what the problem is you're a f**king simpleton, basically.

Here's hoping it's a typical Rothfield nonsense story but it seems Peak Greenberg NRL tbh.

Loads of players? Who past and present has played over 300 nrl games, 20 origins and 20 Aus games? Seems like only a select few. Thurston on 299 and slater not far behind are entitled to be celebrated.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

Storms salary cap punishment happened 7 years ago. I think some people need to grow up and move on. It's a completely different situation.

As long as they retain the core of the team that was assembled via salary cap cheating, every fan knows every achievement they reach will have a giant * next to it.

If you don't like that, tough luck.

I still maintain that the appropriate punishment for salary cap cheating on that level is for the NRL to de-register every players contract with the club and force the management of the club to create their playing roster from scratch under NRL supervision. The years it would take to re-build are deserved punishment for rorting the system.

 

[Stormwarrior82]

As long as they retain the core of the team that was assembled via salary cap cheating, every fan knows every achievement they reach will have a giant * next to it.

If you don't like that, tough luck.

The thing is the 3 players you speak of were assembled long before 2006 when the salary cap issue started. Back 2001 actually and I played with them.

I have no problem with the * . I've moved on.

 

[Vozzy]

Nick Politis will probably pull a Mitchell Pearce testimonial out of his arse.