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What movie have you seen #2

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Lemon Squash

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Flicked through Man of Steel again.
Yeah, it's not perfect. It has some problems.

But I still love it. I can understand why others don't like it much, but the immense hatred for this movie just boggles my mind.

I have tried twice and honestly can't watch it until the end, it is just awful.
 

vvvrulz

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Flicked through Man of Steel again.
Yeah, it's not perfect. It has some problems.

But I still love it. I can understand why others don't like it much, but the immense hatred for this movie just boggles my mind.

I think a lot of it has to do with the whole DC fanboy vs Marvel fanboy thing.
People can rip into Man of Steel but then sing on about average and very flawed movies like Iron Man 3, Cappy 1, Thor 2 etc

That said, I'm not a fan of Man of Steel. It got plenty of things right but the things it got wrong were too glaring and distracting. The decision to 'Nolanize' Superman was the biggest problem, it just doesn't work for his character and legacy. Superman is *supposed* to be optimistic and merry, not this brooding and bland version we got.
 
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The omega is the brains, while I think only the Alpha can re-set time.
Even though they're in separate bodies, they're all one organism. But since the omega is the brains, once it is killed then they all die, alphas, mimics everything

If that's the case how come cage was able to reset the day again?"
 

T.S Quint

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I think a lot of it has to do with the whole DC fanboy vs Marvel fanboy thing.
People can rip into Man of Steel but then sing on about average and very flawed movies like Iron Man 3, Cappy 1, Thor 2 etc

That said, I'm not a fan of Man of Steel. It got plenty of things right but the things it got wrong were too glaring and distracting. The decision to 'Nolanize' Superman was the biggest problem, it just doesn't work for his character and legacy. Superman is *supposed* to be optimistic and merry, not this brooding and bland version we got.

This is where I have the biggest problem.
To me it makes sense to have a movie where Clark is trying to 'find himself' and feeling a bit alone in the world. He hasn't become Superman yet. He is not the symbol of hope for the world yet.
People love the Marvel films and will always compare them to the DC/WB ones. They look at Man of Steel and say "It's too serious. Where is the fun?" I had plenty of fun watching it. I don't need a joke every 20 seconds like Marvel tries to do. That fits with their world fine. But I want something different from the DC characters.

Like I said, MoS definitely had problems..mostly to do with the script. Dave Goyer isn't renowned for being the best at writing a screenplay, but he does come up with some good ideas. Now that a new screenwriter has taken over on BvS I am hoping we will see a bigger improvement.
 

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This is where I have the biggest problem.
To me it makes sense to have a movie where Clark is trying to 'find himself' and feeling a bit alone in the world. He hasn't become Superman yet. He is not the symbol of hope for the world yet.

I get where you are coming from (really!), but there is a difference between trying to find himself and just being a deadbeat bore.

I always take him to have three personas 1) The clean Superman complete with cheesy smile and wink, a symbol of righteousness 2) The bumbling Clark Kent who is deliberately looking to avoid any suspicion by being over the top and goofy 3) Kal-El, the real person behind the cape or glasses, which this origin movie is really all about.

I always imagined Kal-El to be thoughtful, a bit lost and aimless... but never stiff, bored and pissed off with everyone. Take Superman 1979 and Smallville for example, before he took on being Superman or Kent he was always likeable and had an easy going charm about him.

The MoS version of him was too difficult to engage with, he just wasn't written to be terribly interesting at all. It didn't help that Cavill himself was pretty wooden.

Lots of things to like about the movie, but like I said too many glaring problems and this was a big one.
 

T.S Quint

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Fair enough.
It's good to hear well thought out opinions rather than the regular "That was the worst piece of shit I've ever seen?" type comments.
 

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Boyhood

Can see why this will win a swag of oscars

Amazing story, really well told. You need to appreciate a coming of age movie but this one of the best. Had me close to tears a few times...clever, well filmed and genuine

9.8/10

I saw this a few months ago as part of the Sydney Film Festival.
I absolutely loved it, but I didn't imagine it becoming much of a known film. It is picking up some real buzz, especially awards buzz.

What Linklater did was a definite risk and a creative way to make a movie. It's not a movie anyone will see and enjoy, but I have and will recommend it to my friends who love thoughtful dramas.

I didn't have many gripes with the movie, but I did think the main actor wasn't the most engaging screen presence - especially in his teen years.
 
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Divergent. Was ok for your typical hunger games/twilight teenager focused movie. I am sure we will see a few more of the franchise.
 

T.S Quint

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It made plenty of money, so yeah there will definitely be more.
Pretty sure the first sequel has been announced already. Expect the last book (not sure how many there are) to be split into two films, as studios love to do these days.
 
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I saw this a few months ago as part of the Sydney Film Festival.
I absolutely loved it, but I didn't imagine it becoming much of a known film. It is picking up some real buzz, especially awards buzz.

What Linklater did was a definite risk and a creative way to make a movie. It's not a movie anyone will see and enjoy, but I have and will recommend it to my friends who love thoughtful dramas.

I didn't have many gripes with the movie, but I did think the main actor wasn't the most engaging screen presence - especially in his teen years.

Yeh interesting point...I actually thought the sister was poorly cast and she didn't evolve...I didn't notice him so much

Almost got me a few times...so many things we could all probably relate to

How bad arse was the second husband?
 

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The girl who played the sister is the director's daughter.
I don't think she's been in anything else so I guess she isn't really an actress. As for her character not evolving...I think that we were focused so much on the arcs of Mason, his mother and his father that she got left out.

The mother really had a problem finding a good guy.

Turns out the one who turned into a real great father and husband was Ethan Hawke's character.
 
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vvvrulz

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Fair enough.
It's good to hear well thought out opinions rather than the regular "That was the worst piece of shit I've ever seen?" type comments.

lol cheers, yeah nothing wrong with a healthy debate.
There's no right/wrong answer, just opinions
 
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It's because he absorbed the alphas blood I think
But now you got me confused, if he re-set the day then why did they all die when he went back?

yes I don't know, that's the whole purpose of alphas resetting the day when they are killed, so they can re-live the day again, not get killed and win the battle. When the day gets reset, everyone and everything that died is alive again. So not sure why in this case all the humans that died were alive but the mimics were dead.
 

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yes I don't know, that's the whole purpose of alphas resetting the day when they are killed, so they can re-live the day again, not get killed and win the battle. When the day gets reset, everyone and everything that died is alive again. So not sure why in this case all the humans that died were alive but the mimics were dead.

my take on it is that the omega and cage exists in a separate timeline to everything else. So while everyone is repeating day one over and over, the omega and cage are still going day by day, one, two, three etc. that's how it knew to set the trap for cage at the dam. So on day 30 (for example) cage is able to kill the omega and in the process absorbs the alphas blood, so when he dies he goes back to day one (for everyone else), but day 31 for him, the day after he killed the omega, hence no more omega, alphas or mimics

If that makes sense. I'm not entirely convinced it did.
 

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The Lone Ranger (2013) - With Johnny Depp. I was told this was a comedy but nothing like it except for a few light hearted and tongue-in-cheek moments. Apart from some bullshit scenes, it was quite enjoyable. 6.5/10

Pacific Rim (2013) - Rewatched this properly and thought I was viewing a 2 1/4 hour video game. Had to laugh at the scene where the Jaeger pilots were chosen by seeing who won in a fight with oversized chopsticks. The special effects saved this from being a complete bomb. 4.5/10
 
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