Which Team has the largest number of fans.

[TV Ted Ellery]

I have to laugh when people formulate a list of the most popular teams in Sydney and cite every barometer of support aside from the most obvious, average home crowds.

Since 2005, the following two teams have led the home crowd averages:

2005: 1. Tigers 2. Bulldogs

2006: 1. Tigers 2. Bulldogs

2007: 1. Tigers 2. Bulldogs

2008: 1. Tigers 2. Bulldogs

2009: 1. Bulldogs 2. Tigers

2010: 1. Bulldogs 2. Tigers

Does anybody else notice a pattern? The Bulldogs and Tigers have maintained constant support over a sustained period of fluctuating performances. The same can't be said about a lot of other Sydney teams.

Its very possible that St George or Parramatta have a bigger latent support base, but as for attending home games, there can be no argument, that the Tigers + Bulldogs are the most popular.

 

[Eels Dude]

I have to laugh when people formulate a list of the most popular teams in Sydney and cite every barometer of support aside from the most obvious, average home crowds.

Since 2005, the following two teams have led the home crowd averages:

2005: 1. Tigers 2. Bulldogs

2006: 1. Tigers 2. Bulldogs

2007: 1. Tigers 2. Bulldogs

2008: 1. Tigers 2. Bulldogs

2009: 1. Bulldogs 2. Tigers

2010: 1. Bulldogs 2. Tigers

Does anybody else notice a pattern? The Bulldogs and Tigers have maintained constant support over a sustained period of fluctuating performances. The same can't be said about a lot of other Sydney teams.

Its very possible that St George or Parramatta have a bigger latent support base, but as for attending home games, there can be no argument, that the Tigers + Bulldogs are the most popular.

Helps if you play out of stadiums that have capacities larger than 20k. Tigers have played 4 - 6 games a year at either SFS or ANZ for the past 5 years. Bulldogs have played out of ANZ the entire time. While Parramatta and the Dragons have played practically all of their home games at suburban grounds where crowds are restricted to less than 20k so the Tigers and Bulldogs are practically guarenteed of always getting higher crowd averages.

 

[legend]

Hypocrite, much?

I don't believe it.

yet you reply with a pathetic dickhead insult, the thread is about fans it has relevance. If you choose to see it great if not, well meh.

Away crowd averages 2010
STG (12 games) 290,806 - average 24,234
WST (12 games) 233,936 - average 19,495
PAR (12 games) 205,348 - average 18,704
SYD (12 games) 202,695 - average 17,894
GCO (12 games) 206,863 - average 17,239
SOU (11 games) 206,773 - average 17,231
CBY (12 games) 206,617 - average 17,218
BRI (12 games) 203,437 - average 16,953
PEN (12 games) 187,010 - average 15,584
NZW (12 games) 186,634 - average 15,553
MAN (12 games) 185,739 - average 15,478
CAN (12 games) 172,924 - average 14,410
NWC (11 games) 171,515 - average 14,293
NQL (12 games) 168,702 - average 14,059
MEL (12 games) 168,109 - average 14,009
CRO (12 games) 163,921 - average 13,660

Why not add in the home crowd averages as well to see if the figures really stack up?

Happy to be proven wrong on their overall crowd averages instead of using selective stats to make your case.

The thread is about the best supported Sydney team. It has no relevance to the Raiders whatsoever and no Raiders fan has ever claimed to be the most supported team in the NRL. The Raiders are a small market team in a town of 300k. The Dragons have two catchment areas and two home grounds but can still only pull in 15k for a home semi. Add that into your beloved stats and your skewed version of the world cops a large dose of reality.

 

[Coaster]

Hypocrite, much?

I don't believe it.

yet you reply with a pathetic dickhead insult, the thread is about fans it has relevance. If you choose to see it great if not, well meh.

Away crowd averages 2010
STG (12 games) 290,806 - average 24,234
WST (12 games) 233,936 - average 19,495
PAR (12 games) 205,348 - average 18,704
SYD (12 games) 202,695 - average 17,894

GCO (12 games) 206,863 - average 17,239

SOU (11 games) 206,773 - average 17,231
CBY (12 games) 206,617 - average 17,218
BRI (12 games) 203,437 - average 16,953
PEN (12 games) 187,010 - average 15,584
NZW (12 games) 186,634 - average 15,553
MAN (12 games) 185,739 - average 15,478
CAN (12 games) 172,924 - average 14,410
NWC (11 games) 171,515 - average 14,293
NQL (12 games) 168,702 - average 14,059
MEL (12 games) 168,109 - average 14,009
CRO (12 games) 163,921 - average 13,660

wow going by that logic we(Gold Coast) are the 5th most supported away team
:lol::lol:

 

[_Johnsy]

Legend

Those stats were provided to show that my claim of close to 50-50 crowds at Suncorp/Skilled stadium is pretty acurate. Ask any fan who has attended the dragon games at these stadiums, and they'll tell you they are not far off the mark.

I don't subscribe to the whole pissing "we get bigger crowd" arguments. My initial response (canberras bandwagon fans) was to the insult you chose to throw at the dragon fans. You refer to one game, not a great crowd, but we are playing at a bigger stadium, and will get the biggest crowd thus far in 2010, what more can we as a club do?

After you throw a petty insult, if you then don't like someone giving a bit back, dont play. Enjoy this weekends games.

 

[legend]

It wasn't an insult. It's a fact. ;-)

 

[LESStar58]

1. Broncos
2. Knights
3. Cowboys

for mine with Storm and the Titans not far off.

Of the Sydney teams I'd suggest the Doggies and Tigpies have greater support than other teams...

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

Those stats were provided to show that my claim of close to 50-50 crowds at Suncorp/Skilled stadium is pretty acurate. Ask any fan who has attended the dragon games at these stadiums, and they'll tell you they are not far off the mark.

How the f**k do those stats give you a 50/50 crowd average? Apart from the much vaunted Stain head count you have absolutely nothing to prove this absurd figure

 

[_Johnsy]

It wasn't an insult. It's a fact. ;-)

Some things never change, enjoy your 12th birthday this weekend.

 

[Gaba]

It wasn't an insult. It's a fact. ;-)

you are continuing to feed what johnsy wants , trouble

 

[TV Ted Ellery]

Helps if you play out of stadiums that have capacities larger than 20k. Tigers have played 4 - 6 games a year at either SFS or ANZ for the past 5 years. Bulldogs have played out of ANZ the entire time. While Parramatta and the Dragons have played practically all of their home games at suburban grounds where crowds are restricted to less than 20k so the Tigers and Bulldogs are practically guarenteed of always getting higher crowd averages.

This year the Tigers played 3 home games at the SFS and 1 at the SCG but only for the SCG game did the crowd exceed the maximum capacity of either Campbelltown or Leichhardt. Perhaps we should disregard the home games Parra took to Stade d'Oz against Souths and the Bulldogs and the St George home game against the Roosters played at the SFS?

 

[Sam H]

Helps if you play out of stadiums that have capacities larger than 20k. Tigers have played 4 - 6 games a year at either SFS or ANZ for the past 5 years. Bulldogs have played out of ANZ the entire time. While Parramatta and the Dragons have played practically all of their home games at suburban grounds where crowds are restricted to less than 20k so the Tigers and Bulldogs are practically guarenteed of always getting higher crowd averages.

That's just good business sense from the Tigers (and Dogs). And in part it's a reflection of the fact that both teams have the sort of fan bases that can justify many games at the bigger stadiums.

 

[Perth Red]

BAsed ona combination of memberships, home fan avg and merchandise sales (sorry but someone sat on his settee who turns on a odd game and calls homself a fan of that club is worthless imo) I'd say something like:

1. Broncos
2. Bulldogs
3. Wests
4. St George
5. Gold coast

but I can;t find the merchandise sales stats for each club to check.

 

[SET2JT]

This year the Tigers played 3 home games at the SFS and 1 at the SCG but only for the SCG game did the crowd exceed the maximum capacity of either Campbelltown or Leichhardt. Perhaps we should disregard the home games Parra took to Stade d'Oz against Souths and the Bulldogs and the St George home game against the Roosters played at the SFS?

We would never know who has the biggest support base based on how the NRL runs the game atm. To find the true statistic of who is the most supported club in the NRL each team would have to vs each other 2 times for starters. On top of that all clubs need to have grounds with 50k capacity. Also a team like ST George played a hell of a lot of games on Fridays this year. Im sure if they had a few more Sunday games they would have got larger crowds.

 

[JT_]

The Dragons and Roosters can claim a higher average thanks to their two clashes. Both massive crowds.

 

[legend]

you are continuing to feed what johnsy wants , trouble

LMAO! :lol:

He keeps responding to my posts so I think you have it arse about face.:crazy:

 

[TV Ted Ellery]

We would never know who has the biggest support base based on how the NRL runs the game atm. To find the true statistic of who is the most supported club in the NRL each team would have to vs each other 2 times for starters. On top of that all clubs need to have grounds with 50k capacity. Also a team like ST George played a hell of a lot of games on Fridays this year. Im sure if they had a few more Sunday games they would have got larger crowds.

St George had 6 friday night home games, the Tigers had 5. Meanwhile, St George had 1 monday night home game and the Tigers had 2.

 

[Eels Dude]

This year the Tigers played 3 home games at the SFS and 1 at the SCG but only for the SCG game did the crowd exceed the maximum capacity of either Campbelltown or Leichhardt. Perhaps we should disregard the home games Parra took to Stade d'Oz against Souths and the Bulldogs and the St George home game against the Roosters played at the SFS?

If you like. The point is it's all relative. You can't sell more seats than you have and the fact is that that a sellout crowd for the Dragons and Eels is going to be around the 18 or 19k mark while the Tigers and Dogs have the potential to get a lot more. Actually you've proved my point with those 3 games you mentioned. The Dragons home game at the SCG drew 36k, while the Eels two home games at ANZ drew 32k and 25k. Logic from that would say that if the Dragons and Eels played more games at larger capacity stadiums then they'd get higher crowds. So your 'logical' argument that the only thing worth considering when it comes to who's got the largest supporter base is home crowds, is extremely flawed.

 

[Jason Maher]

I have to laugh when people formulate a list of the most popular teams in Sydney and cite every barometer of support aside from the most obvious, average home crowds.

Since 2005, the following two teams have led the home crowd averages:

2005: 1. Tigers 2. Bulldogs

2006: 1. Tigers 2. Bulldogs

2007: 1. Tigers 2. Bulldogs

2008: 1. Tigers 2. Bulldogs

2009: 1. Bulldogs 2. Tigers

2010: 1. Bulldogs 2. Tigers

Does anybody else notice a pattern? The Bulldogs and Tigers have maintained constant support over a sustained period of fluctuating performances. The same can't be said about a lot of other Sydney teams.

Its very possible that St George or Parramatta have a bigger latent support base, but as for attending home games, there can be no argument, that the Tigers + Bulldogs are the most popular.

Here are the actual figures for this year (I've removed "home" games played in places like Brisbane or Perth, which obviously can't provide any indication of a team's support in Sydney):

Canterbury (10 games): 19,545
Wests Tigers (12 games): 18,096
Souths (11 games): 17,735
Parramatta (12 games): 17,080
St. George-Illawarra (12 games): 16,820
Sydney Roosters (11 games): 15,812
Manly (12 games): 13,816
Penrith (12 games): 13,056
Cronulla (12 games): 10,551

A couple of interesting outliers I noted: Canterbury's smallest home crowd was against the Tigers; Wests, Parramatta, St. George, and the Roosters all had their biggest crowds by far in "special event" games shifted to alternative venues (but still in Sydney); Manly had the same but on the Central Coast (close enough to Sydney). I thought about removing the "special event" games, but it didn't alter the order, just bumped down the averages a bit.

Overall, I'd say Canterbury are clearly on top, then Souths and the Tigers, then Parra and Saints (small grounds), then Roosters, then Manly and Penrith, then Cronulla a clear last. I imagine both Parramatta and the Dragons could significantly boost their numbers by moving more games to larger stadiums, assuming they could convince their fans it's a good idea (not likely in the case of Saints). Of course, why Parramatta ever reduced their ground capacity from 30,000 to 20,000 is beyond me. They wouldn't need to move games if they'd left it the way it was.

 

[Sam H]

Of course, why Parramatta ever reduced their ground capacity from 30,000 to 20,000 is beyond me. They wouldn't need to move games if they'd left it the way it was.

Weird isn't it. Does anyone know whether there are any plans to actually extend the capacity of Parra Stadium anytime soon? Spose it might be a tough sell with Homebush up the road...