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Who Has To Go And Why

madunit

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Farah Wins..Another coach out the door. Put Him as coach for the remainder of the year and see how he goes with the non-tacklers.
Unless you have verifiable evidence of bullshut allegation, keep it to yourself.

Go and grow up. If you had half a brain you'd notice that Farah is one of the few players who are doing exactly what Taylor wants.
 

Packy

Bench
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I'm gonna help youse out here.

Bin Farah AND Taylor. New coach starts without any bullshit. Won't win the comp in a year but atm youse aren't even likely to make the 8 in quite a few years.
 

simmo1

First Grade
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Tedesco and Woods are the only two worth keeping. The rest are pretty replaceable.
 

the beavers

Juniors
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The problem with getting rid of all these players is finding someone to take them...wt gonna be average for a while...
 

Wests is Best

Juniors
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ditch the 6, 7 and the 9 before we lose the 1.
keep the coach. the halves have not delivered anything thats impressed me. i was at the match in canberra and the way they both go to the edges in defence is just ridiculous. the luxury of hiding a half in defence is reserved for the best of attacking halves eg benji at his best. these 2 are definitely not in that class and the fact its both of them is something we cannot afford
as for farah he seems to be the centre of the disunity. he must go and does not deserve to see out his contract imo. the rest of the team will perform better without those 3
 
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I think that Brooks and Moses individually have got it, the problem is, neither learned at the hip of an experienced half who can manage a game and turn the screws for a win. I would pick one (Moses) and hang onto him for now, and let the lesser player (Brooks) looks elsewhere, if he becomes a superstar, then so be it. I would also bring in an experienced half who can educate Moses in how to manage a game (Peter Wallace is currently on the market, would be worth a look). While this goes on for two years we test out some of these other youngsters and flick the ones who are no good, and bring in some handy players to fill in the gaps.

Unfortunately the club is too hung up in this story of the best mates who came through the grades together and will win a comp together. The combination is less than the sum of its parts, and for the sake of both player's careers I think they need to be split up. The Brooks/Moses experiment was worth it, but it's time to pull the pin.
 
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Brooks' complete apathy in defence should see him relinquished to NSW cup this week. Looks like he's channeling Blake Ayshford out there with his lack of interest. He has all the skills in attack and shows the occasional and regular piece of brilliance but his head isn't right. Needs to sort himself out quickly for us to be a chance of improving.

Plenty of others worth a dishonourable mention but we all have eyes.
 

BrotherJim05

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I think the club needs to plan for 2018. Everyone will be off contract so we can pick and choose who we want to keep and who we need to sign. FMD, these players should be re-signed:
- Tedesco
- Woods
- Lawrence
- Simona
- Grant
- Nofo
- Sue
- Ava
- Brooks or Moses (not both and not on the ridiculous coin they are asking).

We then make an aggressive push into the market to sign players equal to the calibre of:
E. Taylor
Lowe
Korobete (lets get him back!)
Whare
Blake Green

We would have a team that looks something like this:

1. Tedesco
2. Nofo
3. Whare
4. Simona
5. Korobete
6. Green
7. Moses/Brooks
8. Woods
9. Ballin/Farah (prob Ballin as Farah is probably over this shit by now and will bail to ESL)
10. Grant
11. Lawrence
12. Lowe
13. Taylor

14. Sue
15. Ava
16. Sironen
17. Aloai
 

Tiger05

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I would just focus on a forward or two.

The outside backs to me are fine assuming that they continue to play the way they have been.

1. Tedesco
2. Nofo
3. Naiqama
4. Simona
5. JAC

The forward pack is where we need something extra:-

8. Woods / interchange with Ava
9. Cherrrington/Liddle -> if these two aren't up to it we need a quality hooker.
10. Grant / interchange with Aloai
11. Lawrence
12. we need to buy or promote someone
13. Sue/ interchange with Sironen or get another forward

-> we also need another forward to interchange the backrow or hooker role.

I think we need basically a gun backrower mainly because Sironen doesn't appear to be up to it at the moment. I'd move Sironen to prop/lock forward and if he doesn't cut it there then release him.

Basically we probably need to buy 2 good forwards or find them from our juniors.


The halves are a massive concern. Brooks and Moses need to kick on but we needed it this year and they haven't done it. These guys hold the key to us really improving. I'm not sure what to do about the situation here because they aren't performing well enough however I'm not sure if they just need better coaching and support from the forwards or if they aren't going to cut it.
 

madunit

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Sironen can only become a good lock if he can learn to run strong straight lines and tackle harder and cleaner. He's not a dominant defender. He needs to be at Lock, especially given our outside backs like rushing up way too early and our halves are weak defenders.
 

madunit

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I think the club needs to plan for 2018. Everyone will be off contract so we can pick and choose who we want to keep and who we need to sign. FMD, these players should be re-signed:
- Tedesco
- Woods
- Lawrence
- Simona
- Grant
- Nofo
- Sue
- Ava
- Brooks or Moses (not both and not on the ridiculous coin they are asking).

We then make an aggressive push into the market to sign players equal to the calibre of:
E. Taylor
Lowe
Korobete (lets get him back!)
Whare
Blake Green

We would have a team that looks something like this:

1. Tedesco
2. Nofo
3. Whare
4. Simona
5. Korobete
6. Green
7. Moses/Brooks
8. Woods
9. Ballin/Farah (prob Ballin as Farah is probably over this shit by now and will bail to ESL)
10. Grant
11. Lawrence
12. Lowe
13. Taylor

14. Sue
15. Ava
16. Sironen
17. Aloai
I'd keep Brooks and Bring in Soward.

Move Soward to 7 and allow Brooks to play his natural running game (his running game is far better than Moses')
 

Tigerted

Juniors
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I wouldn't mind juniors son @ 7(tackles like his phenomenal old man & has good kicking & passing games).If only the roosters weren't going so bad I reckon they'd consider getting rid of him due to the scandal he bought to the club but due to there appalling record in his absence his value to them has skyrocketed.
 

BrotherJim05

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I'd keep Brooks and Bring in Soward.

Move Soward to 7 and allow Brooks to play his natural running game (his running game is far better than Moses')

Would Penrith be willing to part with Soward? Looks like they are investing in Martin so you would think they would want an experienced half next to him (which is what we should have been our plan ffs)
 

sensesmaybenumbed

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Everyone. Burn it to the ground, then start again.

Even the theme song needs to change, and I propose our new halfback sings it.

Exclusive footage here:

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Tigerted

Juniors
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457
BrotherJim its certainly been a monumental blunder that's massively backfired for us to place enormous faith in 2 rookies & prematurely pay them massive overs to guide the team around from the crucial positions of 6 & 7.

Penrith r on the right track.They r doing everything right in order to attain success & they will ensure they have the requisite experience in the spine particularly @ the scrumbase so as they get the best out of Te Maire long term.
 

madunit

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Would Penrith be willing to part with Soward? Looks like they are investing in Martin so you would think they would want an experienced half next to him (which is what we should have been our plan ffs)
They still have Wallace.

Segeyaro to hooker when he returns from injury

Martin at 6.

We should've made the play for Soward when we stupidly got Anasta instead.
 
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Our team seems to be made up of a number of different groups that causes an imbalance to our teams performance.Basically the few genuine first graders we do have can not cover the deficiencies of the other groups that make up our team.
1- first graders,Farah,Woods,Ted,Simona etc.,however we have some that have had their best days while others have their best days ahead.
2-past it players eg.Halatau
3-50/50 players eg.Kev
4-potential fg players that may or may not make it eg.Brooks,Moses,JAC etc.
5-FUPS-f##cking useless plodders like Siro,Milone,Buchanan,Lovett,Rankin etc. would never make fg at any other club.
 

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