Who replaces Cappy?

[Blair]

This talk about Cleary and his son. I don't think it's a great idea having a head coach with a star son in his side. It's good to see the boy committing to Penrith without dad.

 

[Beavers Headgear]

I'm not sure the bizarre selections would improve under Kearney. Kenny Bromwich at Hooker and Tohu Harris marking Inglis in the centres this year was some of the strangest coaching I've seen

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

I'm not sure the bizarre selections would improve under Kearney. Kenny Bromwich at Hooker and Tohu Harris marking Inglis in the centres this year was some of the strangest coaching I've seen

Yeah true, I forgot about my dislike of one of Kearneys selections in particular - Hiku at 6 when Benji was an option.

I know we wont always get the team we wont regardless of the coach but Cappys ones were just crazy.

 

[TheDMC]

Yeah Kearney seems an agenda man - no benji or JWH no matter what.

 

[Penrose_11]

I'm not sure the bizarre selections would improve under Kearney. Kenny Bromwich at Hooker and Tohu Harris marking Inglis in the centres this year was some of the strangest coaching I've seen

I'd be more than happy if Kearney came to the Warriors and was able to pick Harris in the centres and Bromwich at Hooker.

 

[Wheeled Warrior]

Yeah Kearney seems an agenda man - no benji or JWH no matter what.

I think he wanted to punish them for tarnishing the Kiwi Jersey with off field incidents in regards of JWH. But it looks like Kearney is now giving the man a 2nd chance to never cheapen the Kiwi Jersey again as he has been named in the Train On Squad

 

[Mr Angry]

This talk about Cleary and his son. I don't think it's a great idea having a head coach with a star son in his side. It's good to see the boy committing to Penrith without dad.

Indeed

The ousted Penrith coach revealed he is still hunting for a fulltime return to the NRL in a move that would see him go head-to-head with his 18-year-old son Nathan.

Linked to jobs at New Zealand Warriors, the Tigers, and now the struggling Dragons, Cleary said he would relish the opportunity to coach against the rookie halfback who has reignited the Panthers’ season with a string of stunning performances.

“I hope I get to coach against him,’’ Cleary said.

“Definitely. That would be an interesting experience but I am certainly hopeful it will happen. I am passionate about coaching and I would love to get the opportunity.”

LINK

 

[TheDMC]

I think he wanted to punish them for tarnishing the Kiwi Jersey with off field incidents in regards of JWH. But it looks like Kearney is now giving the man a 2nd chance to never cheapen the Kiwi Jersey again as he has been named in the Train On Squad

Well Kearney was no clean skin off the field himself that's for sure - as I personally observed one drunken night in Christchurch city center circa 1994/95 following Kiwis v GB match.

 

[Wheeled Warrior]

Well Kearney was no clean skin off the field himself that's for sure - as I personally observed one drunken night in Christchurch city center circa 1994/95 following Kiwis v GB match.

Yeah but he learnt from that and became on of the most professional Kiwi players to ever put on the Jersey. Not excusing him for that incident though. Kearney can see when a player is in the wrong and knows now that the Kiwi Jersey should be respected. I like that about him, it shows some players that they are not bigger than the game or team.

 

[Matua]

Yeah but he learnt from that and became on of the most professional Kiwi players to ever put on the Jersey. Not excusing him for that incident though. Kearney can see when a player is in the wrong and knows now that the Kiwi Jersey should be respected. I like that about him, it shows some players that they are not bigger than the game or team.

Settle down Mrs Kearney.

He had a player begging him to play, in a position we had no one in and he kept turning him down. If a player is begging you to play he doesn't think he's bigger than the game yet Kearney would rather experiment. TBH his omission of JWH while stupid when he is in form is justifiable when you look at the prop rotation we've been able to field. But, his continued refusal to even contemplate playing Benji, even in one off tests, when we clearly have had no halves options at times is borderline criminal. His stubbornness is at times detrimental to the Kiwis when the Kiwis are supposed to be his priority.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Kearney? Man, I feel like some people need their heads read.

I know we've won World Cups and Four Nations, but if you look at the tale of the tape Kearney has won 5 and lost 14 v the Kangaroos. And he's won one more game than he's lost v England. Hardly world-beating. We've just seen a pretty abortionate tour to GB where he refused to pick Benji and played a couple of rookies with minimal experience in those positions. We know he was awful at NRL level, Board instability and the other shit not withstanding. And I just don't think he's a good person. I would feel pretty ill if he was appointed.

 

[Wheeled Warrior]

Settle down Mrs Kearney.

He had a player begging him to play, in a position we had no one in and he kept turning him down. If a player is begging you to play he doesn't think he's bigger than the game yet Kearney would rather experiment. TBH his omission of JWH while stupid when he is in form is justifiable when you look at the prop rotation we've been able to field. But, his continued refusal to even contemplate playing Benji, even in one off tests, when we clearly have had no halves options at times is borderline criminal. His stubbornness is at times detrimental to the Kiwis when the Kiwis are supposed to be his priority.

My god first Iron Lying, then Zero now you. The disease is spreading at a fast rate and what's worse the off season hasn't even begun.

Kearney not playing Marshall I respect. The thing with Mooks is he won't take shit from anybody and his respectable international record stands. Jared was a meat head with his bs trying to disrupt the hard working ethics in place with that scandal and Marshall bitter attitude and shit form didn't warrant him being called up. Plus with his latest shit with trying to punch out Mary shows the lad (Kearney-ism) is not the direction our mighty Kiwis are heading.

You call me Mrs Kearney you little Hua lol then you may as be called Mrs Marshall.

 

[Wheeled Warrior]

Kearney? Man, I feel like some people need their heads read.

I know we've won World Cups and Four Nations, but if you look at the tale of the tape Kearney has won 5 and lost 14 v the Kangaroos. And he's won one more game than he's lost v England. Hardly world-beating. We've just seen a pretty abortionate tour to GB where he refused to pick Benji and played a couple of rookies with minimal experience in those positions. We know he was awful at NRL level, Board instability and the other shit not withstanding. And I just don't think he's a good person. I would feel pretty ill if he was appointed.

Disagree. Kearney has got this team to compete and be there for each other till the final whistle. I see the difference why can't you? Though I wouldn't want him at club level I feel he offers more where he is atm. Kiwi sides of old would of given up when the heat is on not so much these days.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Disagree. Kearney has got this team to compete and be there for each other till the final whistle. I see the difference why can't you? Though I wouldn't want him at club level I feel he offers more where he is atm. Kiwi sides of old would of given up when the heat is on not so much these days.

Is there a difference? Absolutely. Can you be considered great when you win 5 of 20 games v your main opponent? Don't think so. To be fair we've won 3 of the last 4. I just don't think Kearney has it to be an NRL coach, week in week out. We're just not the right club to be answering the question either way. There's no compelling evidence to say he should be the Warriors coach. You'd only bring him in on a 'he's better than what we have' scenario.

Could he work in our environment with an Ivan as a coaching director? Yeah, then I think maybe it'd work with people who clearly like him in our environment like SJ, Luke, Ben etc. But if you're sticking Stacey, Tony Iro and co around him...nah.

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

My god first Iron Lying, then Zero now you. The disease is spreading at a fast rate and what's worse the off season hasn't even begun.

I too like Kearney though and I hope he does become coach.

 

[Matua]

My god first Iron Lying, then Zero now you. The disease is spreading at a fast rate and what's worse the off season hasn't even begun.

Kearney not playing Marshall I respect. The thing with Mooks is he won't take shit from anybody and his respectable international record stands. Jared was a meat head with his bs trying to disrupt the hard working ethics in place with that scandal and Marshall bitter attitude and shit form didn't warrant him being called up. Plus with his latest shit with trying to punch out Mary shows the lad (Kearney-ism) is not the direction our mighty Kiwis are heading.

You call me Mrs Kearney you little Hua lol then you may as be called Mrs Marshall.

Look, if it's a choice between Crappy and Kearney I'll take Kearney either day as he's a Kiwi, but your fawning over him for his supposed 'respect the jersey' is off base (running out some of the players he's done in the halves is not respecting the jersey) so deserves to be called out. Furthermore, last year Marshall was in top form and had an extremely positive attitude before injury and Kearney was on record as saying he wouldn't ever be considered. That's a bitter attitude.

 

[Wheeled Warrior]

Look, if it's a choice between Crappy and Kearney I'll take Kearney either day as he's a Kiwi, but your fawning over him for his supposed 'respect the jersey' is off base (running out some of the players he's done in the halves is not respecting the jersey) so deserves to be called out. Furthermore, last year Marshall was in top form and had an extremely positive attitude before injury and Kearney was on record as saying he wouldn't ever be considered. That's a bitter attitude.

Marshall is finished in the Black Jersey just accept that as a fact. Mooks has set the bar and will keep to it. We have to respect his stance as the direction and stability of our core group has no room for his sort of plays. I give credit to the coach for blooding yougsters (Albeit some of them may not be the best in that position) he is giving the new breed a taste of international footy. I appreciate he is setting the blueprint for a good side to last longer than 1-2 years, looking beyond to keep us at the top for a very long period. I for one respect the man for doing whats right for our Kiwi team.

 

[jaseg]

Kearney is one of my least favourite options... his record at Parra was woeful, and they got worse during his time there - it was noted that he got to recruit the players he wanted (like Sandow) and essentially set up the team to fail not just during his tenure, but for the next couple of years (not entirely his own fault by any means - the board takes a good portion of the blame, but he had a say in constructing that squad and giving out some large long term contracts to terrible players... he signed something like 19 players in 2 years while at the club, many of them experienced guys who weren't up to it like McGuire, Hicks, Maitua, Walker, Webb, Whatuira, Roberts, Sandow and Tonga) until they could gut the roster and essentially start fresh.

Then you look at his selections at international level.. little things like Locke for the RLWC final, plus the entire '15 tour shambles (not just ignoring Marshall but failing to pick a halfback -any effing halfback, even from Super League, then instead of at least pairing the closest things he had - Lolohea and Nikorima - he insisted on playing Hiku in the halves.. and to make it worse, picked Lolohea over Nikorima at the start of the tour despite his frankly awful end to the year in the halves). Kenny Bromwich at hooker earlier this year was another of his gems. His total record against the Kangaroos isn't great either as pointed out above. Beyond that, success at international level doesn't mean a thing in the NRL - we've seen that beyond a doubt.

I'm really not sure he's much of an upgrade. There are a bunch of guys who look better suited to the job.

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

Well I just hope the headache of picking a coach on this very thread isnt an actual reflection of whats going on in the Warriors management. Its ok for cos we dont have were just a forum and thats what this threads for. Im sure theyre having a tough time right now but this may all work out in Cappys favour in that he may keep his job because they cant agree on anyone.

 

[Wheeled Warrior]

Kearney is one of my least favourite options... his record at Parra was woeful, and they got worse during his time there - it was noted that he got to recruit the players he wanted (like Sandow) and essentially set up the team to fail not just during his tenure, but for the next couple of years (not entirely his own fault by any means - the board takes a good portion of the blame, but he had a say in constructing that squad and giving out some large long term contracts to terrible players... he signed something like 19 players in 2 years while at the club, many of them experienced guys who weren't up to it like McGuire, Hicks, Maitua, Walker, Webb, Whatuira, Roberts, Sandow and Tonga) until they could gut the roster and essentially start fresh.

Then you look at his selections at international level.. little things like Locke for the RLWC final, plus the entire '15 tour shambles (not just ignoring Marshall but failing to pick a halfback -any effing halfback, even from Super League, then instead of at least pairing the closest things he had - Lolohea and Nikorima - he insisted on playing Hiku in the halves.. and to make it worse, picked Lolohea over Nikorima at the start of the tour despite his frankly awful end to the year in the halves). Kenny Bromwich at hooker earlier this year was another of his gems. His total record against the Kangaroos isn't great either as pointed out above. Beyond that, success at international level doesn't mean a thing in the NRL - we've seen that beyond a doubt.

I'm really not sure he's much of an upgrade. There are a bunch of guys who look better suited to the job.

Kearney was behind the 8 ball already when he took that shambles of a club (Paramatta) on. The players didn't listen or respect him because their core were rotten from the inside out. The board was a Mickey Mouse club and that stilll shows even after he left. You give him a better team now and he will do much better. I know all the Kiwis respect him so taking the Warriors job may be a good thing (Better than McFail) But dont worry I really dont want him to be a club coach at all, keep with the Kiwis is the best fit for him. I want Cleary, Hasler personally.