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Why Can't the Video Ref Rule On a Forward Pass?

Canard

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How much have you watched lately?

More than I would care to admit due to my best mate being a Kiwi, working with Saffas andliving in Melbourne and preferring it to there local code.

It's downright disingenuous to say they police forward passes better.
 

Parra

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They do. The game has changed and you won't only see less forward passes, you'll see more short passing and less of the big floating cut out passes. League has also changed. More forward passes from dummy half and more flat/no look cut out passes. League currently has forward pass controversies. Rugby doesn't. Had plenty in the past though.
 

I Bleed Maroon

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Long story short, this shit has to change. If the video ref can't see a pass that has gone 2 metres forward with the incessant replays they have taken liberty of using, then sack the ref and hire a new one. It's stupid.
 

Diesel

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Video ref should be used like it does in the Holden Cup or NFL, it's relied on too much by the refs and slows the game down
 

Danish

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They tried it, and it was a dog's breakfast with a complete lottery anytime it went to the video ref. On field refs aren't always positioned well to see forward passes after a linebreak, so tough shit there as far as I am concerned.

Manly will get their standard bullshit call to win them a game in September to make up for it.

What the refs should be dropped for though is not picking up on the most blatant downtown penalty ever on that last try. It was textbook, and they missed it
 

muzby

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when the pass starts a metre before the line, and finishes a metre past the line, surely they can call that one...
 

AlwaysGreen

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Nah. There's been forward passes since Adam flick passed to Cain in the Eden Cup. It would be a dogs breakfast.
 

Jason Maher

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How did I know this would get brought up again? Not surprised by who the OP is either.

The simple fact is a forward pass not called against Manly is a thing of beauty.
 

Meth

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If a touch judge can't be counted on to call forward passes, then I don't know what they're for
 

Meth

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Also, we need to be lessening the role of the video ref in the game. They have been a disaster this year, again
 

Cammo

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What the refs should be dropped for though is not picking up on the most blatant downtown penalty ever on that last try. It was textbook, and they missed it

The ball travelled more than 10 meters after the Manly player played at the ball, therefore they are now onside.

What part of that rule don't you understand?

It was no try because of the forward pass, the players were not offside.
 

Canard

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Ball was passed backwards for mine.

People seem to believe that a ball cannot travel forward under any circumstances.
 

Meth

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I am more for the abolition of the video ref advising referees in decisions that do not involve a try/no try. Some times they do, some times they don't. That's a problem. Meanwhile, it slows the game down horribly while players stall, hoping the referees overturn the call against them.
 

Sea_Eagles_Rock

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We use the video ref for correcting other errors. For example the catch in the in-goal earlier in the game, the dead ball line, grounding, touchlines and foul play. It makes no sense to not use the video to correct 'obvious' forward passes that were missed.

I'm in no way stating this changed the outcome of the game last night. Manly had their chances and failed to kick a field goal. I'm a fairly logical person, and if we score a try off a pass like that I wouldn't be upset if it got overturned one bit.

The rule is simple, but no doubt the execution would get screwed up somehow. A forward pass can only be ruled on by a video ref if it very clear it has been obviously missed by the 4 on field officials and none of the on field officials felt they clearly saw the pass. I would expect the Video ref to say to the on field ref, "There appears to be a significant forward pass from X to Y. Was the pass cleared?" On Field ref talks to the other bludgers, they all say "Uhhhh dunno, didn't see it" or "It came out of the hands backwards and floated forward, I had a good line on it". Based on the touchies who can't see judge a foot crossing a line from point blank range, I'd be expecting far more "Uhhhh dunno's."
 

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