ElectricEel
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Hartigan said they were exonerated. Not me.
Big difference.
But if they cooperated, maybe things would be different. In other words, theres no murder if you cant find a body.
Hartigan said they were exonerated. Not me.
Big difference.
Because they took some really really dumb advice, and overestimated the importance of "standing united".Why didn't the Storm players cooperate with the investigators???
HAHAHA. Youre a legend Loudstrat. I was just thinking what knob jockeys those guys are. You nailed it Bro! :lol:
Ps. Love your avatar. RIP RJD.
Hartigan said they were exonerated. Not me.
Big difference.
"No evidence was found that these players or their managers and agents knew that these third party payments and benefits could contribute to a breach of the salary cap," he said.
"Regrettably not one of the players agreed to cooperate with the investigation ... in my view it's totally unacceptable."
Hartigan said they were exonerated. Not me.
Big difference.
It's not the players jobs to police or even care about the salary cap. If they are offered more money and they think it a bit suss, so what? They are there to play footy and earn as much as they can.
and this is the crux of the matter and is essentially almost impossible to prove.No it wasn't.
If a player signs a contract with the intent to defraud - that is VERY illegal!
Welcome to the world of the Mafia. So when does your character get screened in Underbelly?
Mate if I was offered $ that I thought was suss I'd steer very clear of it!
The players are very quiet - media all over this and not one player defending their lack of action.....
It's not the players jobs to police or even care about the salary cap. If they are offered more money and they think it a bit suss, so what? They are there to play footy and earn as much as they can.
I am pretty sure it doesn't say on their JDF, must not accept money that might not be declared to the NRL.
He said no such thing.
Mr Hartigan urged leading figures at the club to "take your medicine" in relation to the hard line penalties imposed on the Storm, but stressed all players were exonerated in relation to any knowledge about cheating the system.
there's a big difference between being suss and being illegal. As long as they paid income tax on it and it wasn't from illegal proceeds then there is nothing illegal in what they have done. They haven't defrauded anybody, it's doubtful if they have even broken any NRL rules (is there any NRL rules re the way players accept payments relating specifically to the employer rather than the employee?).
Not above board, not ethical even but imo as an employer if its not illegal and they are not breaking their employement terms and conditions than they have nothing to answer.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...back-at-uncooperative-tag-20100716-10e4u.htmlTeam hits back at uncooperative tag
BRAD WALTER, CHRIS BARRETT AND STATHI PAXINOS
July 17, 2010
MELBOURNE STORM players have hit back at criticism from News Ltd boss John Hartigan over their unwillingness to cooperate with the Deloitte investigation into the club's salary cap scandal. The Rugby League Players' Association, speaking on behalf of Storm players, insisted the only reason they did not agree to interviews was because the auditors could not guarantee the players' personal details would not be leaked by the media empire.
The players yesterday contacted the RLPA in response to Hartigan's comments and said they had spoken with the Deloitte team and received assurances any information disclosed would be kept confidential between the player and Deloitte.
However, the players said they had also been advised News might release details to its newspapers, including personal information they gained during the investigation.
''It is for this reason and for this reason alone, that the players reasonably chose to protect their privacy,'' RLPA chairman Paul Moreton said.
A leading player agent, who has several clients at the Storm, also scoffed at Hartigan's claims that the players had been guaranteed confidentiality over any personal details they revealed to the News Ltd-commissioned audit.
''This investigation was commissioned by News Ltd, the biggest media organisation in the world and who have demonstrated they are happy to leak information to their reporters whenever it suits them,'' the agent told the Herald.
''The very day that Deloitte began talking about a confidentiality agreement for the players, there was a back-page story detailing how Cameron Smith had apparently signed three different contracts. Clearly, information was flowing into their papers.''
Several players told the RLPA they were given less than 24 hours' notice of scheduled interviews and could not arrange legal or other representation in time, while Smith said some were also away on Origin duty.
''We were given advice at the time of those investigations that it was probably best that we didn't go in and have those interviews,'' Smith said. ''At the time there was plenty going on, the rep season had just started and eventually the investigation was sorted out by itself.
''That was the advice we were given and that's what we stood by. We like to think that we're given fairly good advice by the people we trust and at the time we did what was right for us.''
Moreton noted that Hartigan said there ''was no evidence to prove players were aware third-party payments were in breach of the cap''.
''The players have been under extreme duress since April, however, at no time have they shied away from their responsibilities both on and off the field,'' Moreton said.
''During this very difficult time, the players have shown loyalty to one another, their fans, their club and the game. The players have given their very best in every game and will continue to do so for the remainder of the season and look forward to rebuilding the Storm in 2011.''
Meanwhile, QRL general manager Ross Livermore also responded to Hartigan's criticism that the Queenslanders were stubbornly blockading the inception of an independent commission to govern all facets of the game in Australia. Hartigan took aim at the QRL while releasing News's report on the audit into the Storm salary cap breaches.