Why does rugby league have trouble expanding internationally compared to other codes

[Whatwhere]

Does that finally mean the pretense is over? If you're such a big interweb hero you can go and show off your skills in the fight club with the other bigots and leave the rugby league discussion to rugby league people. But I doubt you will.

To be fair there isn't much discussion of yawnyawn on there anymore, not since it became the number four football code in this country and an irrelevance in any argument about the sporting landscape in Australia.

To be quite frank, why would I bother when there seems to be more fight here.

 

[Whatwhere]

The schools you have stated that play rugby league only also play union! And please avoid that seemingly exclusive"rugby" term for union out of your chatter as it reeks of ignorance and deliberate rudeness. (I'd say your go though!)It's union or league in this discourse. Fancy you being on a RL website. Our game has got issues putting up with the spoilers but its better than that!

Ok then. Do some research and show me these competitions they also play in. Go ahead. I'll wait. If you're talking about knockouts look up the Waratah Shield. That's the all encompassing konockout competition for all secondary school in the state. Tell me how many competed this year. Go on.

As for my use. Well, as I'm assuming you're an Aussie I'd imagine you'd be quite familiar with the usage of Rugby and League as the identifiers for either code. But just to back it up, what are the names of respective international bodies?

World Rugby and who exactly? Don't bothrr answering we all know the answer. So until something changes I'll continue to use Rugby for Rugby and League for League.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

To be quite frank, why would I bother when there seems to be more fight here.

Reaching full troll status now.

Don't you feel like a f**kwit pretending all that ti...




What am I saying? It's a Vichy wanker.

 

[Whatwhere]

Reaching full troll status now.

Don't you feel like a f**kwit pretending all that ti...




What am I saying? It's a Vichy wanker.

Do you want to know something? I actually don't hate League. Prefer Rugby but don't mind it. Watch a good bit of the SL in fact. I find it more free flowing and less systematic than the NRL.

Am even willing to talk about it. Which was my original imtent. But, here's the truth. You guys are so wound up that it's all so effortless to get you going. All you have to do is disagree on one thing and away we go. Vichy this, merkin that. I've been having a good laugh throughout this whole thing.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Do you want to know something? I actually don't hate League. Prefer Rugby but don't mind it. Watch a good bit of the SL in fact. I find it more free flowing and less systematic than the NRL.

Am even willing to talk about it. Which was my original imtent. But, here's the truth. You guys arevso wound up that it's also effortless to get you going. All you have to do is disagree on one thing and away we go. Vichy this, merkin that. I've been having a good laugh throughout this whole thing.

Yep. This couldn't be a more textbook case of naziball wankery. Claims to actually like RL but posts absolutely nothing but union bullshit. I've been on here 13 years or something. I've seen it time and time again. It's Groundhog Day.

Like I've said, fight club or f**k off. If you're such a (self proclaimed) big shot keyboard warrior you can go there and see how you fare. They love pompous union dicks who believe in their own superiority. You'll have a ball for the five minutes you're there before disappearing.

 

[Stallion]

Do you want to know something? I actually don't hate League. Prefer Rugby but don't mind it. Watch a good bit of the SL in fact. I find it more free flowing and less systematic than the NRL.

Am even willing to talk about it. Which was my original imtent. But, here's the truth. You guys are so wound up that it's all so effortless to get you going. All you have to do is disagree on one thing and away we go. Vichy this, merkin that. I've been having a good laugh throughout this whole thing.

Yes you are quite laughable if that makes you happy!
Re: Your response on secondary private schools.
I know for a fact that these Catholic secondary private schools you have mentioned play RU as well as RL. It's common knowledge. Unlike the total absence of NSW's most popular football code being sidelined in the RU only schools you have mentioned. It's pretty amazing stuff and the penny with you still hasn't dropped. Pretty poor form but you are consistent. Well done on wasting our time but once again refining our skills in combating ill found spoiling tactics to deflect, misinform, and promoting tedious off tangent discourse which assists the RU denial of what has gone on.

 

[Stallion]

Ok then. Do some research and show me these competitions they also play in. Go ahead. I'll wait. If you're talking about knockouts look up the Waratah Shield. That's the all encompassing konockout competition for all secondary school in the state. Tell me how many competed this year. Go on.

As for my use. Well, as I'm assuming you're an Aussie I'd imagine you'd be quite familiar with the usage of Rugby and League as the identifiers for either code. But just to back it up, what are the names of respective international bodies?

World Rugby and who exactly? Don't bothrr answering we all know the answer. So until something changes I'll continue to use Rugby for Rugby and League for League.

The identifiers for each code is league or union.

The "rugby " term has been something you NAZI collaborationist dudes have tried to implement over the last decade.

It's not genuine Aussie vernacular at all! When I was growing up RL was "footy" and Union was union!

 

[Whatwhere]

Yes you are quite laughable if that makes you happy!
Re: Your response on secondary private schools.
I know for a fact that these Catholic secondary private schools you have mentioned play RU as well as RL. It's common knowledge. Unlike the total absence of NSW's most popular football code being sidelined in the RU only schools you have mentioned. It's pretty amazing stuff and the penny with you still hasn't dropped. Pretty poor form but you are consistent. Well done on wasting our time but once again refining our skills in combating ill found spoiling tactics to deflect, misinform, and promoting tedious off tangent discourse which assists the RU denial of what has gone on.

Then provide the links to these competitions they supposedly compete in. Come on. Put up or shut up.

 

[Whatwhere]

The identifiers for each code is league or union.

The "rugby " term has been something you NAZI collaborationist dudes have tried to implement over the last decade.

It's not genuine Aussie vernacular at all! When I was growing up RL was "footy" and Union was union!

Sure buddy. Growing up it was always Rugby and League.

 

[Stallion]

Sure buddy. Growing up it was always Rugby and League.

Quite pathetic aren't you?

I grew up in a very Australian city(a city used for demographic surveys representing Australia at large) and 'footy' was always rugby league and union was referred to as union. It's as plain as that.

You are showing your private school upbringing,which is very much removed from mainstream Australia! Get that one up ya champ! And whilst I'm at it you continue to show your bigotry and ignorance in such an un- Australian way which is reflective of a lot of the "private" school dudes I have met in my travels and socially in the working class town I live in. A very different perspective from many of you private school dudes. Very closed , insular and conservative to the nth degree. I wonder if you have played rugby league?

I've definitely played all football codes and know which one is the most physical and democratic at the same time? Do you?

 

[siv]

Amazingly poor and ignorant response!
We have always noted the incompetent administration its the "big brother" thing that's needs to be common knowledge and discourse. Very few people are aware of what has been going on when it comes to RU pulling its strings behind the scenes to make growth/existence of rugby league achievable! Please remember RL does not have the establishment backing that you speak of that RU has clearly used to propagate its code for over 100 years at least. RL has had the struggle within the market place which it readily decided to take on back in 1895(England) & 1908 (NZ & Aust) and has done remarkably well considering the devious tactics RU has used to deny RL's existence and development basically everywhere. If we don't acknowledge and proactively discuss this then we cannot genuinely move on as the relics and structure impeding RLs growth will not be recognized and understood . This will haunt RL as it strives to grow. So it really does need to be addressed and have the greater public be aware of the 'roadblocks'. And making the general public more aware of this bigotry by one code over another is worthwhile as such codes are aimed to be culturally inclusive.

If one code doesn't get a fair go and the other does, then this is not fair and it should be known. It answers many questions and logic starts to come into the general public discourse instead of blind adherence to what the RU people want general society to innocently view their codes apparent 'legitimacy' which RU is afraid will occur.

Agree its our history

But we need to change our focus towards the future

 

[Whatwhere]

Quite pathetic aren't you?

I grew up in a very Australian city(a city used for demographic surveys representing Australia at large) and 'footy' was always rugby league and union was referred to as union. It's as plain as that.

You are showing your private school upbringing,which is very much removed from mainstream Australia! Get that one up ya champ! And whilst I'm at it you continue to show your bigotry and ignorance in such an un- Australian way which is reflective of a lot of the "private" school dudes I have met in my travels and socially in the working class town I live in. A very different perspective from many of you private school dudes. Very closed , insular and conservative to the nth degree. I wonder if you have played rugby league?

I've definitely played all football codes and know which one is the most physical and democratic at the same time? Do you?

You got me. Like 35% of all Australians that fall within the 'millenial' tag I was (at least for my secondary schooling) privately educated. God damn my parents for working hard to ensure I received a quality education and the opportunities in affords. Those monsters.

Your inherent bias that anyone privately educated must be a less than genuine is frankly moronic. For your information, I did play League. It was the first sport I ever played back when I was young living in Miller. I also played it during my time at HS. I'll even tell which school I attended. Are you ready? St Gregory's College, Campbelltown. You may be familiar with it as a source of many, many NSWRL come ARL come NRL players during its 90 years.

As for the physical side of the game. I've played Prop in both. My experience would suggest that Rugby is by far the more physical. To apply a war analogy to either as a Prop. League (that's what I'm calling it. Always have always will and some tit on the internet with his knickers in a twist isn't going to change that so tough shit) is like firing artillery. Speed and momentum mixed with weight hitting a largely stationary line. In Rugby on the otherhand its hand to hand combat. Man for man, pound for pound.

 

[Stallion]

You got me. Like 35% of all Australians that fall within the 'millenial' tag I was (at least for my secondary schooling) privately educated. God damn my parents for working hard to ensure I received a quality education and the opportunities in affords. Those monsters.

Your inherent bias that anyone privately educated must be a less than genuine is frankly moronic. For your information, I did play League. It was the first sport I ever played back when I was young living in Miller. I also played it during my time at HS. I'll even tell which school I attended. Are you ready? St Gregory's College, Campbelltown. You may be familiar with it as a source of many, many NSWRL come ARL come NRL players during its 90 years.

As for the physical side of the game. I've played Prop in both. My experience would suggest that Rugby is by far the more physical. To apply a war analogy to either as a Prop. League (that's what I'm calling it. Always have always will and some tit on the internet with his knickers in a twist isn't going to change that so tough shit) is like firing artillery. Speed and momentum mixed with weight hitting a largely stationary line. In Rugby on the otherhand its hand to hand combat. Man for man, pound for pound.

Lol. That figures! A non tackling forward!
I was a forward in both(2nd row) and could easily make 20 plus tackles in a game of RL and also 20 hit ups(runs) with the ball. In union it was 1 maybe two tackles(if I hit the guy with a good shot I'd be penalized as well!) and perhaps one fleeting run with the ball. And that was consistent throughout all my many games of both codes.
You are kidding yourself. RL is much more physical and more fun! Much more "on ball" for everyone playing and the viewer!
I suggest you be a pest on the union websites not rugby league.

 

[Whatwhere]

Lol. That figures! A non tackling forward!
I was a forward in both(2nd row) and could easily make 20 plus tackles in a game of RL and also 20 hit ups(runs) with the ball. In union it was 1 maybe two tackles(if I hit the guy with a good shot I'd be penalized as well!) and perhaps one fleeting run with the ball. And that was consistent throughout all my many games of both codes.
You are kidding yourself. RL is much more physical and more fun! Much more "on ball" for everyone playing and the viewer!
I suggest you be a pest on the union websites not rugby league.

The fact that you focus solely on possession proves you lack any understanding of the game and therefore I doubt you ever played Rugby. Either that or you were lazy.

It's easy to rack up touches in League as possession is a given. I used to have at least one often 2 hit ups a set in League. I also remember making a lot of tackles but perhaps I am mistaken.

If you had ever actually played Rugby you would understand that its not all about jow many times you touch the ball. In fact it's often more about the work you do off the ball. Maintaining possession, contributing to the set piece, making sure you're in the right place to be an effective contributor at all times.

The fact that you claim to be a 2nd rower in both but neglect to take these things into account suggests that laziness wasn't an issue for you as you have never actually played the game.

 

[Stallion]

The fact that you focus solely on possession proves you lack any understanding of the game and therefore I doubt you ever played Rugby. Either that or you were lazy.

It's easy to rack up touches in League as possession is a given. I used to have at least one often 2 hit ups a set in League. I also remember making a lot of tackles but perhaps I am mistaken.

If you had ever actually played Rugby you would understand that its not all about jow many times you touch the ball. In fact it's often more about the work you do off the ball. Maintaining possession, contributing to the set piece, making sure you're in the right place to be an effective contributor at all times.

The fact that you claim to be a 2nd rower in both but neglect to take these things into account suggests that laziness wasn't an issue for you as you have never actually played the game.

My word you are showing all the hallmarks of your toffee nosed, insular & bigoted upbringing(my parents worked hard as well and had no issues with public education you toffee nosed twat!) You have provided this thread with an admission that you played both RU & RL at St Gregory's Campbelltown. (One of the rugby league 'only 'playing schools?)

Not only have you tried to "glorify" "off the ball" play(which most people seeking sports entertainment do not watch or value) you still can't figure that RL is far more appealing to watch & play than RU? It's astonishing your apathy and ignorance. You do have your own opinion and, in a way, it does open up this discourse to further emphasize the short comings of the RU code, so for that, I must inadvertently thank you.

You are a toffee nosed private school twat and your "no neck" stance on sport is deplorable! Seriously, that 'off the ball play' stuff occurs in all football codes. RL just happens to have more "on the ball" play for both the player and its audience. It's very simple . If one code, RL, has about 600 tackles(therefore 600 ball runs) in a total game and RU has 150 tackles(therefore150 ball runs in a game) then the code of RL is surely showing more of what the public at large want to see and that is tackling and running with the ball.

Highlights(really lowlights) like "ballet performances" line outs don't cut it with the genuine sporting public and the scrum that looks like an aphid and has minor possession change is another fallacy that is 'championed' by your type. Oh! I forgot about kicking out on the full as well. My word such a boring game that union and run by toffee nosed, deceitful bigots as well!!

Please go back to your Gin & tonic and your toffee nosed non tackling, unsportsmanlike hole if you can't acknowledge these very real facts!.

BTW after my final game of rugby union, I told the mostly 'chubby" pack of forwards: "This game(RU) is a farce, no one knows how weak it really is! You should be ashamed of yourselves pretending this is hard & tough! The general public are not aware of this at all!"

 

[Knownothing]

My word you are showing all the hallmarks of your toffee nosed, insular & bigoted upbringing.



My word such a boring game that union and run by toffee nosed, deceitful bigots as well!!




BTW after my final game of rugby union, I told the mostly 'chubby" pack of forwards: "This game(RU) is a farce, no one knows how weak it really is! You should be ashamed of yourselves pretending this is hard & tough! The general public are not aware of this at all!"

So that's the problem right there. The general public are just straight out ignorant, and are easily manipulated by a bunch of toffee nosed deceitful bigots.

Not much hope for the human race, is there?

 

[Coastbloke]

So, the RLIF had a 261 delegate pissup.
They're not sure if the 4 Nations will fold until the big 3 tell the RLIF how it is.
No 8 team tournament for 6-7 years.
Kangaroos to have a little 'west' in 2018 (How about 1 game of SOO for 2 more Tests)
No direction whatsoever..
Thqt's why League can't expand internationally..

 

[Knownothing]

Maybe the RLIF needs to employ some toffee nosed bigots.

 

[Te Kaha]

It's very simple . If one code, RL, has about 600 tackles(therefore 600 ball runs) in a total game and RU has 150 tackles(therefore150 ball runs in a game) then the code of RL is surely showing more of what the public at large want to see and that is tackling and running with the ball.

Listen LJC you need to stop with the lying. You got pulled up for this blatant falsehood under your last handle. 600 "Tackles" doesn't account for 600 "Runs" when 2 or 3 players on the same tackle get credited with that tackle, something Rugby doesn't do. And why do "Runs" make a game more appealing?? Why isn't passing just as important? There is more passing in Rugby than League at the moment and a lot of people find that more appealing than run, tackle, run, tackle, run tackle. Why not kicking? there is more Kicking in League than Rugby some people find that more appealing.

The thing you cant get through that head of yours, with the billions of people in this world they all have different tastes. League and rugby are no better and no worse than any other sport that people enjoy. You go on about the "Bigotry" in rugby but fail to see you are every bit a bigot as those people you claim to hate.

And I cant wait until you pull out your "Friends in high places" line that goes beyond stupid.

 

[Stallion]

So that's the problem right there. The general public are just straight out ignorant, and are easily manipulated by a bunch of toffee nosed deceitful bigots.

Not much hope for the human race, is there?

It's what's been fed to the general public that's the issue here!

If the public doesn't know what is happening in the private schools and other school systems of the world than they will continue to assume that union has just "naturally" assumed a certain popularity that is really on the back of deceitful repressive tactics that the public at large have no idea of.

That's all.

It's pretty simple logic and people like are hell-bent on making this not known as it will show the true unsportsmanlike stance rugby union has taken for many years against the far more attractive code to play and watch of rugby league.