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orrrrr they need to up the avg across all games whilst getting a healthy bump on their own games.
What makes you think the average in Perth for games not involving a Perth-based team will increase?

In Melbourne the ratings are 33k for Storm and 8k without them.

Sounds a great strategy, screw the PNG fans. So selfish, but we know that of you already.

You asked what will happen if the Gov money runs out. I answered your question. Get over it.
 
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no, you're not following the argument... "we think there is room" isn't banging down the door for another QLD/Brisbane team you muppet. You keep using this one single quote as proof the broadcasters want Brisbane 3 next.

Regardless of what Ch9 say, you'll dismiss it as a "throwaway line".
 
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Colk

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Tell that to the lions that will make them feel better

Haha so I guess that they are not going to kill them yeah.

It’s stupid to throw that line. You can make the argument that you think that you can’t attract anybody outside of NSW and QLD if you want but this idea that there is some sort of relationship between fumbleball and league crowds/support has been disproven that many times that it is ludicrous to keep arguing it.
 

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Strawman.

Pointing out that fumbleball has increased AusKick participation in the western corridor isn't the same as saying AwFuL is taking over.

I've said the Lions rate better in Brisbane on a secondary channel than AwFuL games broadcast in Perth that don't involve the Dockers and Eagles.

Mate you have literally posted saying that you were concerned about the fumblers spending money in south Brisbane and that the game needs to put a side there to counter it.

That’s the weakest argument for another side in Brisbane. Fair enough if you want to argue there are more fans or whatever but don’t throw that line because it is completely oxymoronic.
 
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Mate you have literally posted saying that you were concerned about the fumblers spending money in south Brisbane and that the game needs to put a side there to counter it.

That’s the weakest argument for another side in Brisbane. Fair enough if you want to argue there are more fans or whatever but don’t throw that line because it is completely oxymoronic.

Over the last fifteen years I've seen AwFuL acquire Cronulla Park for the Springwood Pumas and build the Lions@Springwood Social Club. I live in the neighbourhood. They're targeting this area. As a rugby league fan I want to see our game fight back.
 

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Over the last fifteen years I've seen AwFuL acquire Cronulla Park for the Springwood Pumas and build the Lions@Springwood Social Club. I live in the neighbourhood. They're targeting this area. As a rugby league fan I want to see our game fight back.

Who f****** cares. Let them spend their money.
They have their audience and whatever players they produce in most cases wouldn’t fit the league mould in any case.

It doesn’t matter how many sides you put in Brisbane or Sydney to try and stop them, it will make no difference. That’s the truth. Two different sports and in a lot of cases two sets of fanbases

If you think another Brisbane side is the way to go because of audiences or whatever, fine argue that. But don’t argue this* nonsense about trying to contain another sport/product etc because it never works.
 
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Who f****** cares. Let them spend their money.
They have their audience and whatever players they produce in most cases wouldn’t fit the league mould in any case.

It doesn’t matter how many sides you put in Brisbane or Sydney to try and stop them, it will make no difference. That’s the truth. Two different sports and in a lot of cases two sets of fanbases

If you think another Brisbane side is the way to go because of audiences or whatever, fine argue that. But don’t argue this* nonsense about trying to contain another sport/product etc because it never works.
I care because I wanted Cronulla Park to be the home for a reformed Logan Scorpions. Back in the 1980s the Scorpions wanted to be based out of Cronulla Park, but were denied access by the Logan City Council. Thrifty years later.it was gifted to fumbleball.

Why are you so adamant we should ignore underserviced rugby league areas and focus on Adelaide and Perth?

There's no way the broadcasters will pay more money for teams in Adelaide and Perth [than they will for Brisbane 3]. NZ2 will grow the game in a rugby union heartland. Brisbane 3 and NZ2 provide more value.

The only people who want us to prioritise Adelaide and Perth are truly insecure about AwFuL.

I'm not required to ignore the best interests of rugby league in Brisbane just because three Canberra fans are insecure about not having teams in Adelaide and Perth. The soapdodger from Perth is only looking out for himself and is envious of Brisbane and Sydney for being the world's largest rugby league cities. The last time he got to see Great Britain win anything meaningful was in 1974. He's got a chip on his shoulder.
 

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I care because I wanted Cronulla Park to be the home for a reformed Logan Scorpions. Back in the 1980s the Scorpions wanted to be based out of Cronulla Park, but were denied access by the Logan City Council. Thrifty years later.it was gifted to fumbleball.

Why are you so adamant we should ignore underserviced rugby league areas and focus on Adelaide and Perth?

There's no way the broadcasters will pay more money for teams in Adelaide and Perth [than they will for Brisbane 3]. NZ2 will grow the game in a rugby union heartland. Brisbane 3 and NZ2 provide more value.

The only people who want us to prioritise Adelaide and Perth are truly insecure about AwFuL.

I'm not required to ignore the best interests of rugby league in Brisbane just because three Canberra fans are insecure about not having teams in Adelaide and Perth. The soapdodger from Perth is only looking out for himself and is envious of Brisbane and Sydney for being the world's largest rugby league cities. The last time he got to see Great Britain win anything meaningful was in 1974. He's got a chip on his shoulder.

You are showing more insecurity about fumbleball than I or anybody else. I couldn’t care what they do.

I am just telling you that they have their audience already - if you don’t believe me then think about the fact that Lions attendances were greater last year despite the Dolphins and Broncos being in the competition. Or the fact that the Swans are still alive despite having 9 league teams in Sydney. Essentially there are people in Sydney or Brisbane who only like fumbleball or league. There are probably others who can watch both and jump on a bandwagon. That’s just the way it is.

So essentially you can be all paranoid and try and stop them (futile as it is) or concentrate on your own potential market.
 

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Haha so I guess that they are not going to kill them yeah.

It’s stupid to throw that line. You can make the argument that you think that you can’t attract anybody outside of NSW and QLD if you want but this idea that there is some sort of relationship between fumbleball and league crowds/support has been disproven that many times that it is ludicrous to keep arguing it.
Sure they are

in one year the dolphins are already a bigger club than the lions

afl is bleeding to death In qld every year it will get less and less media as the Broncos and dolphins are the only shows in town

dolphins in their first year did almost double the crowds the broncos did in Their first year

that’s a scary thought how big they end up
 

Colk

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Sure they are

in one year the dolphins are already a bigger club than the lions

afl is bleeding to death In qld every year it will get less and less media as the Broncos and dolphins are the only shows in town

dolphins in their first year did almost double the crowds the broncos did in Their first year

that’s a scary thought how big they end up

Despite the fact that the Lions grew their attendances/audiences last year? You could ignore that as much as you want but that’s the evidence.

Between the Lions, Storm and the Swans, the evidence at hand essentially doesn’t support your argument that either fumbleball or league could kill each others teams. It just doesn’t happen in any sport because people choose to consume what they wish to consume,
 

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Despite the fact that the Lions grew their attendances/audiences last year? You could ignore that as much as you want but that’s the evidence.

Between the Lions, Storm and the Swans, the evidence at hand essentially doesn’t support your argument that either fumbleball or league could kill each others teams. It just doesn’t happen in any sport because people choose to consume what they wish to consume,
I’ll repeat there’s a link on here

the lions themselves talk about how hard it was competing with the dolphins

dolphins are going to get stronger from here

and the lions won’t be making the grand final every year either once they miss the semis watch them sink like a stone

afl has stretched itself thin in qld with two weak clubs when it should’ve focused all its efforts on making one really strong
 

Colk

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I’ll repeat there’s a link on here

the lions themselves talk about how hard it was competing with the dolphins

dolphins are going to get stronger from here

and the lions won’t be making the grand final every year either once they miss the semis watch them sink like a stone

afl has stretched itself thin in qld with two weak clubs when it should’ve focused all its efforts on making one really strong

They can say whatever they want to say. All I have to say to you in response is the Swans and the Storm.

If your suggestion had any element of plausibility then these sides would have died because those sides have faced much greater competition over the years then what the Lions are facing. You could put however many sides you want in Queensland and there will still be people who will prefer fumbleball or still support it. Same as the Storm in Melbourne or the Swans in Sydney. That’s because people will consume what they want to consume - it is as simple as that.

But to seriously make you actually consider what you’re posting can you think of examples where one sport has directly contributed to the total demise of another sport in a particular area? I can think of maybe baseball overtaking cricket in America about 200 odd years ago and that’s it.
 

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They can say whatever they want to say. All I have to say to you in response is the Swans and the Storm.

If your suggestion had any element of plausibility then these sides would have died because those sides have faced much greater competition over the years then what the Lions are facing. You could put however many sides you want in Queensland and there will still be people who will prefer fumbleball or still support it. Same as the Storm in Melbourne or the Swans in Sydney. That’s because people will consume what they want to consume - it is as simple as that.

But to seriously make you actually consider what you’re posting can you think of examples where one sport has directly contributed to the total demise of another sport in a particular area? I can think of maybe baseball overtaking cricket in America about 200 odd years ago and that’s it.
So the lions know less about their situation than you

lmao

your on the wrong forum then

you should be working for the fumblers
 

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Its not how i read that at all. Its that it wont have a massive impact on the sporting landscape - and likely more benefits to be achieved by "fishing where the fish are".
Do you think adding (you couldn't really call it expansion) 3 straight teams in SEQ (2007 Titans, 2023 Dolpins then Bri3) is a good long term strategy?

You don't think giving the Dolphins at least 5 to 10 years of clean air is sensible?

As a dyed in the wool AFL fan, I think you would prefer the NRL not grow outside NSW and QLD
 

Colk

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So the lions know less about their situation than you

lmao

your on the wrong forum then

you should be working for the fumblers

I’m just pointing out the evidence that is right in front of us. Essentially, Queensland is no different to NSW and Vic where both league and fumbleball co-exist.

In any case, it would be a positive for people to realise this. Instead of focusing on what they are doing, just focus on what is best for our game.
 

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