Wild Card Weekend - reports NRL looking to expand finals to ten teams

[shiznit]

Not sure why you are being so hostile but anyways...

There are other ways to increase content without adding 2 contrived 'wildcard matches'.

Your attitude surprises me given you are such a big fan of the NFL and College football which is the ultimate example of restraint in terms of amount of games and finals/playoffs participants. In both cases it increases the importance of the regular season matches which increases attendance and ratings.

I hate college football... they pillage talent for free...

And if it were up to me I’d turn the CFP from 4 teams to 12 in a heartbeat... f**k bowl games.

As for the NFL they have 32 teams... they also have different challenges they have to meet as far as CTE and the amount games they are allowed to play.

Playing a 30 game regular season isn’t an option for them... believe me... if it was those greedy f**ks who own the league would do it.

They also have a broadcasting deal 25 times bigger than the NRL.

But even with all that money they are also considering adding 2 more wildcard teams.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Interesting thoughts from both sides here - https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/nrl-ne...ds-clash-over-nrl-s--wildcard-weekend-_050319

 

[T-Boon]

I hate college football... they pillage talent for free...

They get a four year education worth anywhere between 60k and 200k and often a network of a college fan base that then sets them up for life if they want. They also get living allowances and all the food in the world guaranteed for 4 years. College football is awesome particularly at the levels below D1 where the schools make hardly any money.

It is the NFL that sucks people in and spits them out if they are not outstanding.

College football is great. There are maybe 10 kids each year that could go straight to the NFL. I wish they would relax the rules so you can go pro straight out of high school and shut the whingers up.

Of course college football could start paying the player and totally ruin the whole concept.

 

[T-Boon]

If the NRL wants more TV money go to quarters. That is an extra 10 minutes each game of mostly advertisement time. Over the course of the year that would be 2000 minutes of extra TV ads. How many games does that equate to. How many $$$s ??

 

[shiznit]

They get a four year education worth anywhere between 60k and 200k and often a network of a college fan base that then sets them up for life if they want. They also get living allowances and all the food in the world guaranteed for 4 years. College football is awesome particularly at the levels below D1 where the schools make hardly any money.

It is the NFL that sucks people in and spits them out if they are not outstanding.

College football is great. There are maybe 10 kids each year that could go straight to the NFL. I wish they would relax the rules so you can go pro straight out of high school and shut the whingers up.

Of course college football could start paying the player and totally ruin the whole concept.

Brainwashed by the NCAA and it’s corrupt system.

The so called ‘free’ education your talking about is a fallacy.

College football conferences sign broadcasting deals worth close to half a billion dollars a year and these players who put their bodies on the line get nothing from it.

100,000 seat stadiums packed to the rafters... the majority of which pays to get in... none of that goes to the kids who actually earn that.

The so called ‘free’ education is a joke... players who sign up for a full ride have to take the courses that suit the football schedule... which more often then not means easier courses which don’t clash with football.

And if a kid gets seriously injured or doesn’t perform as expected a lot of these schools will pull the scholarship or if they can’t make life so bad for them they force them to drop out.

The worst part of this is they have NO CHOICE in participating in this farce... it’s not like they have a viable option to go straight into the league.

 

[macnaz]

If the NRL wants more TV money go to quarters. That is an extra 10 minutes each game of mostly advertisement time. Over the course of the year that would be 2000 minutes of extra TV ads. How many games does that equate to.

Yep and we can also run the Amco Cup mid week plus the Wills Cup pre season comp just to give them some more ad time ..

 

[T-Boon]

Brainwashed by the NCAA and it’s corrupt system.

The so called ‘free’ education your talking about is a fallacy.

College football conferences sign broadcasting deals worth close to half a billion dollars a year and these players who put their bodies on the line get nothing from it.

100,000 seat stadiums packed to the rafters... the majority of which pays to get in... none of that goes to the kids who actually earn that.

The so called ‘free’ education is a joke... players who sign up for a full ride have to take the courses that suit the football schedule... which more often then not means easier courses which don’t clash with football.

And if a kid gets seriously injured or doesn’t perform as expected a lot of these schools will pull the scholarship or if they can’t make life so bad for them they force them to drop out.

The worst part of this is they have NO CHOICE in participating in this farce... it’s not like they have a viable option to go straight into the league.

Get off your high horse.
99% of college football players will never go on to the league. Of those that do 99% of them spend about 3 years max there before they get chewed up by it and fall back on the college education.
They get a great education and fame at college which by the way is the level that invented the game.
The NCAA has great rules in place to ensure the athlete student can focus on their studies.
The free education is about the only hope a lot of these kids have to get a leg up in life.
All you seem to know about here is the elite dozen or so schools - there is literally a thousand schools over there most of which make little or no money and provide free or near free in the lower divisions education to the athlete.

You get all your points of view from the perspective of these dip shit elite superstars like Lebron and Ben Simmons who want to blow a great system up just because they and a dozen other elite superstars missed out on a year or two of earning their fortune.

 

[T-Boon]

Yep and we can also run the Amco Cup mid week plus the Wills Cup pre season comp just to give them some more ad time ..

But that gets back to the problem of player exhaustion and too many games.

 

[macnaz]

But that gets back to the problem of player exhaustion and too many games.

But its all about the money isnt it ?

 

[T-Boon]

But its all about the money isnt it ?

No it isnt...but you can get a lot more money for virtually nothing by going to quarters, it would take all of about 1 game for the crusty old fan to get use to.

 

[siv]

What about teams 11-16?

Typical exclusionist NRL...

They will enter the relegation playoffs

 

[AlwaysGreen]

The wildcard should be the team that has the most sex tapes plays off against the team with the most (alleged) criminal proceedings.

 

[shiznit]

Get off your high horse.
99% of college football players will never go on to the league. Of those that do 99% of them spend about 3 years max there before they get chewed up by it and fall back on the college education.
They get a great education and fame at college which by the way is the level that invented the game.
The NCAA has great rules in place to ensure the athlete student can focus on their studies.
The free education is about the only hope a lot of these kids have to get a leg up in life.
All you seem to know about here is the elite dozen or so schools - there is literally a thousand schools over there most of which make little or no money and provide free or near free in the lower divisions education to the athlete.

You get all your points of view from the perspective of these dip shit elite superstars like Lebron and Ben Simmons who want to blow a great system up just because they and a dozen other elite superstars missed out on a year or two of earning their fortune.

No one is saying that kids shouldn’t go to college...

The problem is they shouldn’t be f**king forced to play for free for an institution that makes tens of
millions off their backs per year.

They should be allowed to go straight into the NBA or NFL if they choose to.

If they want to go to college then good for them... but don’t force them.

And if you insist on forcing them... PAY THEM!

 

[greenBV4]

Don't know if its already been said but I read someone that this could have something to do with adding another 2 teams down the track, so instead of 10 of 16 playing finals it would be 10 of 18, closer to half

Couldn't find the article again so take it with a grain of salt

 

[T-Boon]

No one is saying that kids shouldn’t go to college...

The problem is they shouldn’t be f**king forced to play for free for an institution that makes tens of
millions off their backs per year.

They should be allowed to go straight into the NBA or NFL if they choose to.

If they want to go to college then good for them... but don’t force them.

And if you insist on forcing them... PAY THEM!

Take Notre Dame.
Tuition and boarding fees for a year is $70,000. Add that they get an allowance of maybe $10k. So for a red shirt freshman who does not even play that is $80k in value as an 18 year old plus next to no living expenses and legendary status on campus. They get to travel the country and are set up for the next 40 years of their life with their degree.
The recruits out of high school fall over themselves to get recruited to a school. 20k of them every year and there is maybe 10 players that would have a hope of going to the NFL out of high school (and the NFL would bring in rookie contracts worth less than they are now because they would have to have reserve grades or something stupid).
Start paying them and sorry but all of a sudden the whole charm of college football is dead and we have that stale crap like the NFL (and every other pro sports league in the world) dishes up where you have strikes, players sit out, you have to put up with agents, transfer talk. No thanks. College football is an oasis.
I'd rather the TV dollars pissed off out of it.
By the way I'd be fine with allowing the NFL to draft straight out of high school.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

So maybe rigging it to fit in even more shitty teams isnt the direction we should be heading in?

What kind of bent logic is "it's already a bit shit, so it doesnt matter if its shitter"

This isnt a debate about "shitness", these games will probably be great to watch. It's a debate about "unfairness"...

"Wahhh, my team came first and we go knocked out be a team that came 10th. Waahhhh". Honestly though, toughen the f*ck up. If you team loses a game the needed to win, they dont deserve to be Premiers. If they have a perfect winning record but cant handle the pressure of September football, the dont deserve to be premiers. If you need to look back and say, "we only played this team once and this team twice", you dont deserve to be premiers.

Im more interested in entertaining football, not a purists vision of an even competition.

 

[adamkungl]

This isnt a debate about "shitness", these games will probably be great to watch. It's a debate about "unfairness"...

"Wahhh, my team came first and we go knocked out be a team that came 10th. Waahhhh"..

Literally no one has said this but sure whatever

 

[Saxon]

Q

Another impact of Super League. Tv stations are so dominant when it comes to scheduling

You're kidding right? You're obviously not old enough to remember the days before SL when Packer got what he wanted, when he wanted and paid what he wanted (i.e. f**k all).

 

[typicalfan]

This isnt a debate about "shitness", these games will probably be great to watch. It's a debate about "unfairness"...

"Wahhh, my team came first and we go knocked out be a team that came 10th. Waahhhh". Honestly though, toughen the f*ck up. If you team loses a game the needed to win, they dont deserve to be Premiers. If they have a perfect winning record but cant handle the pressure of September football, the dont deserve to be premiers. If you need to look back and say, "we only played this team once and this team twice", you dont deserve to be premiers.

Im more interested in entertaining football, not a purists vision of an even competition.

Judging based on F/A is not a fair system when you don't play everyone twice. The ladder itself is affected by it. So it's contradictory to claim fairness and then go on that tangent you did.

You could argue it would be more fair if a team that finished a point outside the 8 playoff for a finals spot when the competition is slightly uneven.

 

[Man of Steele]

Yes I am in favour of this, only because my team is shit.