Will Isaac Luke get suspended ?

[t-ba]

Am I the only one who thinks there should be a different standard for the Grand final?
This isnt a regular season game, why do we insist it gets treated like one

The charge should be the same but IMO, points wise, finals games should be a sliding scale and SOO/Internationals should be weighted higher than regular season games

If 100 points = 1 regular season game, you should have to accumulated at least 350 to miss a grandfinal, 300 for an international and 250 for SOO/ finals Ames
So in this case, if Luke's charge plus what ever carry over points warrants 350+ points then he should miss it, if not, let's say he gets 200 point charge, then he plays the GF and misses the first two season games next year

Would encourage players to engage in illegal play in Preliminary finals. I don't think that's a particularly good idea.

 

[Charlie124]

It's a shit idea. The whole idea of weighting punishments to reflect the games importance is ridiculous, punishments are meant to punish the offending player for doing an illegal act, not fit around their teams finals campaign.

 

[nick87]

In what regard though? Like do you think teams will start taking heads off in prelim finals, conceding penalties just because they can?
You think players will all of a sudden start purposely spear tackling people for the sake of it? I dont uy that at all, teams in prelim finals arent going to do this and give away free penalties just because they dont have to worry about it the following week'

Those chicken wings, wrestling etc, maybe, but you you eliminate that by making them them a huge points penalty as a standard

if you make lifting tackles and all those wrestle a minimum of 300 points, then you'll get rid of it, the wrestle in particular, because they will miss 3-4 games per chicken wing/crusher in season and come finals time, it's just not in the game plan, because the coaches will have moved on because those who dont will have guys missing 4 weeks a pop.

 

[Danish]

You want someone to have to commit the equivalent of a grade 5 reckless high tackle or grade 4 lifting tackle to miss a grand final?

Get ready to see key players taken apart if that is brought in

 

[nick87]

You want someone to have to commit the equivalent of a grade 5 reckless high tackle or grade 4 lifting tackle to miss a grand final?

Get ready to see key players taken apart if that is brought in

That's an issue with how those charges are graded. Why does it need a grade 4-5 charge to accumulate a 4 game suspension

You dont eliminte this stuff by giving slaps on the wrist. As i've said, you make a grade 1 lifting charge a 300-400 point charge, minimum. That's how you get this stuff out of the game.

You're talking about two seperate issues

Anyways, ive said my piece, you guys obviously disagree, which is fine.

 

[Danish]

If you do that then Luke misses a grand final for that tackle anyway, which is the exact same situation as now and the thing which you are arguing against happening

 

[t-ba]

The Roosters won a premiership last year backing themselves to defend their line by giving away penalties. If you factor in the added bonus of hobbling a Jonathon Thurston or DCE with practically no repercussions come grand final time, you'd be mad not too.

If we increase the loading, Isaac Luke would still be having a holiday...

 

[nick87]

If you do that then Luke misses a grand final for that tackle anyway, which is the exact same situation as now and the thing which you are arguing against happening

Im not arguing Luke shouldnt miss the GF at all, that is absolutely completely not what i am arguing. I have never once said that at all. Im arguing that the GF is different and gets treated as such and the rules should reflect that

If Luke's charge warrents 3-4 game suspension (which it should because i think lifting tackles need to penalised more harshly if they are serious about getting rid of them) then yes, he should miss the grand final. But every year, situations like this arrise and players get off scot free because the MRC view rep/finals games differently to regular season games

My arguement is simple. Regular season games ARE different to finals/rep games, they are treated as such by the NRL and MRC, so the rules should reflect this. Luke will likely get undercharged and be free to play, because the MRC doesnt want him missing the GF on a small charge. Where as under my system, they'd have the ability to charge him correctly and if the points warrant missing the game (and they should given i think lifting tackles should be a minimum of 300 points), then so be it, it's hard to argue a guy shouldnt miss the GF when his charge usually results in a 4 regular game suspension, its much harder to make that claim when his charge would result in missing only 1-2 regular season games. The entire system needs to be overhauled and i think weighted points for the importance of the game, and larger minimums for wrestling, lifting and striking is a big part of that overhaul

This is more an issue when they let guys off for high tackles that would normally get 2 weeks, but it's part of the same issue.

 

[ram raid]

If you do that then Luke misses a grand final for that tackle anyway, which is the exact same situation as now and the thing which you are arguing against happening

You'd be arguing that JWH should not be missing a week for headbutting Teo had your team got through, though. So your opinion is pretty worthless ..

 

[Slug]

Dollar Bill has got him off any punishment. Thanks Dollar.

 

[ram raid]

The Kiwis's gotta stick together.

 

[Nice Beaver]

Luke will miss te grand final if charged because of his poor record of grub behavoour, not because of a single incident. A cleanskin wouldn't miss a week for that tackle.

Luke has no one to blame but himself for being suspended so often, especially considering be got off of a suspension recently which should have been his wake up call I clean up his game

Exactly.

Lyon and Watmough got charged exactly the same for the tackle on Inglis.

One was a cleanskin, one a repeat offender.

Luke is as grubby f*ck of a player who deserves to miss the week if charged.

This shit about "go easy on a player, its the GF" is rubbish. You cannot draw a definitive line in the sand to say one act of foul play is any less important than another. Don't be a grubby f*ck and you'll play every game!

 

[rabbitohs95]

If Luke gets suspended i'll go as far to say that we lose the GF. His dummy half running is immense to our go forward.

If he gets off and we play to our best it's gonna be hard to beat us.

 

[BranVan3000]

Luke will miss te grand final if charged because of his poor record of grub behavoour, not because of a single incident. A cleanskin wouldn't miss a week for that tackle.

Luke has no one to blame but himself for being suspended so often, especially considering be got off of a suspension recently which should have been his wake up call I clean up his game

Luke never should have been charged for that to begin with, why would he clean up his act?

Also his game has been very clean since that series of dumb things he did the internationals a few years back.

 

[DURRRHURRR]

I think it very much depends on who wins tonite. If dogs win he is out, Panthers win he is free to play. Only thing that could complicate it is if the dogs win and have a player commit a similar offence.

Now how about Burgees dropping the knees on SBW in the first half, surely that is a worthy of a charge

 

[Danish]

You'd be arguing that JWH should not be missing a week for headbutting Teo had your team got through, though. So your opinion is pretty worthless ..

headbutt :lol:

Hargraves head butted Teo about as much as Auva punched Pearce

 

[Danish]

Luke never should have been charged for that to begin with, why would he clean up his act?

Also his game has been very clean since that series of dumb things he did the internationals a few years back.

Sorry, I forgot that having kids to feed is an excuse for kicking people in the head in the NRL. How silly of me

 

[Snappy]

You'd be arguing that JWH should not be missing a week for headbutting Teo had your team got through, though. So your opinion is pretty worthless ..

Just like your skirt wearing souff sinney opinion is worth as much as some used chewy on the back of a bus seat

 

[851]

Sorry, I forgot that having kids to feed is an excuse for kicking people in the head in the NRL. How silly of me

He rode his luck last time,and lets not talk about the plethora of cannon balls he use to trot out,he deserves to miss a week,but I will be absolutely astounded if he does.

 

[BranVan3000]

Sorry, I forgot that having kids to feed is an excuse for kicking people in the head in the NRL. How silly of me

He was rolled onto his head and having his neck crushed into the ground. What should he have done?