World Cup 2022 discussion

[Iamback]

A big back 3 is important, I can see why Freddy went that way.

Murray and Yeo getting KO'd was where the series was lost

 

[Smug Panther]

A big back 3 is important, I can see why Freddy went that way.

Murray and Yeo getting KO'd was where the series was lost

The whole team being cowards and not backing Burto up lost the series

 

[Sime_11]

there was a game JAC played not long after the non-selection outcry where again he was a passenger in defence.

not having Latrell & Turbo didnt help NSW either. JAC getting picked doesnt mean NSW win - NSW destroyed Qld in Origin 2 - like Smug said - Yeo/Murray getting knocked out was instrumental in how the team would play.

If Cam Murray wasnt knocked out in Origin 3 - NSW would have been up by 20 at HT and the series wrapped up

 

[Pomoz]

He is referring to Freddy not picking JAC for Origin being made to look dumber by the day. To be fair though while I think he should have been there, Fiji & Scotland are a rung or 3 below QLD.

JAC's speed is useless if the forwards aren't dominant. QLD would have driven JAC backwards every time he got the ball. There is none of the space outside the winger he has seen in the world cup. Secondly, Coates, Cobbo and Holmes have more than enough speed to defend JAC adequately. JAC showed nothing in his games with the Dogs when they were dominated to suggest he would have made the slightest difference to how we went in SOO.

In game 1 and game 2, Tupou and To'o made over 200m each and nearly every metre was tough hit ups, the sort of stuff JAC just doesn't do. In game 3 To'o made 136m and Tupou 160m. Again, what was JAC going to add with his 136m average per game? He made less than 100m in six games in 2022 including a paltry 42m against the Sharks. I just don't see how he would have made the slightest bit of difference unless the Blues forwards can get on top and games 1 and 3 were arm wrestles.

 

[Kilkenny]

Have only watched a few highlight reels thus far and really some of these games are pointless (excuse the pun).

 

[soc123_au]

JAC's speed is useless if the forwards aren't dominant. QLD would have driven JAC backwards every time he got the ball. There is none of the space outside the winger he has seen in the world cup. Secondly, Coates, Cobbo and Holmes have more than enough speed to defend JAC adequately. JAC showed nothing in his games with the Dogs when they were dominated to suggest he would have made the slightest difference to how we went in SOO.

In game 1 and game 2, Tupou and To'o made over 200m each and nearly every metre was tough hit ups, the sort of stuff JAC just doesn't do. In game 3 To'o made 136m and Tupou 160m. Again, what was JAC going to add with his 136m average per game? He made less than 100m in six games in 2022 including a paltry 42m against the Sharks. I just don't see how he would have made the slightest bit of difference unless the Blues forwards can get on top and games 1 and 3 were arm wrestles.

I should have been clearer in my post. The "dumber by the day" bit is the media carry on to lay the slipper into Freddy. I still would have picked him over Tupou, but you are right, it would have made no difference to the outcome the way things panned out.

 

[Munky]

JAC offers a long range threat.

QLD compressed and belted the back three since there was no way NSW would attempt to go around them with To'o and Tupou on the edges. Just not enough speed.

Whenever NSW tried a Penrith style shift to the left Sims, Talakai etc bungled it.

 

[Smug Panther]

We lose by more if JAC plays

 

[Old and Disgruntled]

JAC offers a long range threat.

QLD compressed and belted the back three since there was no way NSW would attempt to go around them with To'o and Tupou on the edges. Just not enough speed.

Whenever NSW tried a Penrith style shift to the left Sims, Talakai etc bungled it.

The game was in the balance (leaning toward Qld.)until Talakai came on, looked clueless.

 

[Kilkenny]

Makes no difference now, we were exposed, and in hindsight there were clearly issues around team selections.

Fair play to the Maroons and Billy Slater they got the job done.

 

[jane the pain]

Penrith winning system explained by New Zealand star after World Cup win in Hull

New Zealand prop James Fisher-Harris has seen it all coming through as a junior at Penrith.

www.hulldailymail.co.uk

 

[mxlegend99]

Martin and Yeo bagged tries and had good games. Martin looks like an absolute animal in the Australian jersey.

Cleary was good (aside from early goal kicking) but looked like the Queensland contingent pushed him aside and tried to give DCE the best chance to keep his jersey. Hunt from dummy half nearly always went looking for DCE.

Haven't seen stats. But would almost be certain DCE had a hell of a lot more touches than Cleary. So if the team has any say I think the spine is Teddy, Munster, DCE and Hunt/Grant.

 

[jane the pain]

Cleary impresses as Australia thrash Italy | Official website of the Penrith Panthers

Australia marched on to the quarterfinals with a 66-6 defeat of Italy on Sunday morning (AEDT), with both Daly Cherry-Evans and Nathan Cleary impressing in their first Test together.

www.penrithpanthers.com.au

 

[Iamback]

Martin and Yeo bagged tries and had good games. Martin looks like an absolute animal in the Australian jersey.

Cleary was good (aside from early goal kicking) but looked like the Queensland contingent pushed him aside and tried to give DCE the best chance to keep his jersey. Hunt from dummy half nearly always went looking for DCE.

Haven't seen stats. But would almost be certain DCE had a hell of a lot more touches than Cleary. So if the team has any say I think the spine is Teddy, Munster, DCE and Hunt/Grant.

DCE played in Cleary's normal right side.
So of course he would get more touches

Stats wise is was even

 

[Stinkfinger]

Martin and Yeo bagged tries and had good games. Martin looks like an absolute animal in the Australian jersey.

Cleary was good (aside from early goal kicking) but looked like the Queensland contingent pushed him aside and tried to give DCE the best chance to keep his jersey. Hunt from dummy half nearly always went looking for DCE.

Haven't seen stats. But would almost be certain DCE had a hell of a lot more touches than Cleary. So if the team has any say I think the spine is Teddy, Munster, DCE and Hunt/Grant.

It was always going to be Cleary. All this speculation was just theatre for media hacks.

 

[Munky]

Watching the highlights it looks like once Yeo went to first receiver the Australian attack really started humming.

Can anyone confirm.?

Just seeking to have my hot take of Yeo being the second best NSW eligible halfback validated.

 

[Iamback]

Watching the highlights it looks like once Yeo went to first receiver the Australian attack really started humming.

Can anyone confirm.?

Just seeking to have my hot take of Yeo being the second best NSW eligible halfback validated.

Yep. He was even working with DCE well
Best player in the game confirmed

 

[mxlegend99]

DCE played in Cleary's normal right side.
So of course he would get more touches

Stats wise is was even

They swapped at halftime. But it felt like Hunt kinda starved cleary of the ball. Was looking for DCE on the last even when Yeo was set up to protect Cleary. Alot of his plays when going down Cleary's edge were flat balls for a hit up and when going the other way he actually passed it to DCE.

Last week he was feeding the ball to Cleary regularly and i felt he was far better for Nathan than Grant who seemed to prefer dummy half scoots when there's a sign of an attacking opportunity.

Beat spine is Teddy, Munster, Cleary and Hunt. Grant off the bench. But i expect Mal will go with the QLDer and use this game to justify his selection despite Cleary having done as much with less opportunities.

 

[Iamback]

They swapped at halftime. But it felt like Hunt kinda starved cleary of the ball. Was looking for DCE on the last even when Yeo was set up to protect Cleary. Alot of his plays when going down Cleary's edge were flat balls for a hit up and when going the other way he actually passed it to DCE.

Last week he was feeding the ball to Cleary regularly and i felt he was far better for Nathan than Grant who seemed to prefer dummy half scoots when there's a sign of an attacking opportunity.

Beat spine is Teddy, Munster, Cleary and Hunt. Grant off the bench. But i expect Mal will go with the QLDer and use this game to justify his selection despite Cleary having done as much with less opportunities.

Hunt went Teddy's side which is the right side, When he went off and they played through Yeo then the ball went both sides more

 

[Iamback]

Samoa v Tonga will be an epic game, Panther guys in Samoa finding form. Hopefully Tago is back