WWE SuperThread *Spoilers*

[afinalsin666]

f**k you. f**k. f**k. f**k. Great first half, the quality ended after big e and Rusev.

 

[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

Cena wins!!!

 

[Parra Pride]

I would've have preferred any other man in that match winning, so I pretty much set my self up for disappointment.

 

[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

Really that title should of gone either to Orton or Wyatt, as they set up natural feuds for when Bryan comes back. With that said, it doesn't seem Bryan will be back any time soon.

 

[afinalsin666]

I wanted to see Orton win for the crimson mask shot. Shit was hectic.

 

[Big Pete]

Cena winning was the logical choice.

WWE needs a stop-gap champion to drop the title to Brock and Cena is in the right position and is by far the most credible opponent.

It does have a feeling of it being the 'status quo' but considering Bryan is gone and Punk fled there wasn't much the WWE could do other than to push Roman or Cesaro, neither of whom are ready.

Going to give this show a proper watch now instead of basically relying on WWE commentary and stilted images to tell the story (which is as bad as it sounds). Basic thoughts is that there were far too many Smackdown! esque matches on the show with little rhyme or reason and it dragged the show down.

The Briefcase Ladder match was pretty good outside of the lazy Kane interference, Title match felt sub-par.

 

[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

If Bryan is out for a while which now seems to be the case, WWE would of been better served with Reigns or Wyatt as champion. Cena neither needs the title, nor does having him hold the title make it any more prestigeous. And Cena vs Lesnar has been done.

And with the WWE's desire to push everyone onto the Network, why would someone sign up to see the same old shit?

 

[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

Prince Devitt's last ring costume before he reports to WWE

 

[Big Pete]

If Bryan is out for a while which now seems to be the case, WWE would of been better served with Reigns or Wyatt as champion. Cena neither needs the title, nor does having him hold the title make it any more prestigeous. And Cena vs Lesnar has been done.

And with the WWE's desire to push everyone onto the Network, why would someone sign up to see the same old shit?

The plan is to put the belt on Brock, giving it to Reigns or Wyatt only to be fed to Brock is counter-productive.

A lot has changed since Brock/Cena I and still plenty of meat on the bone to book a very enticing rematch, especially with Heyman around as a mouthpiece instead of Lauranaitis.

Considering the first match was a MotY contender, I'm sure the rematch will be in the same realm and a much safer bet than Wyatt/Brock or Reigns/Brock at this stage.

It's a tough situation to be in but given all the factors at play, it was the most logical.

 

[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

Lesnar better destroy Cena then. Otherwise having him beat the streak but go down to Cena just makes no sense.

 

[Misanthrope]

Agree with the others who've said the PPV basically stopped being good once Big E/Rusev started.

Opening tag match was red hot (although I find the Usos so f**king bland. Great wrestlers, but dull characters), the Paige/Naomi match was surprisingly acceptable, and the MITB match stole the show.

I didn't mind the Sandow/Rose interaction as filler - better than the God awful Summer Rae/Layla abortion. Any time I see Stardust on screen is good time.

Main event just seemed so disjointed and the win was out of nowhere. I don't mind Cena winning, but I'd have liked him to have at least featured in the match. It seemed like they couldn't figure out what to do with people other than Sheamus, Reigns, Kane, and Orton.

 

[afinalsin666]

Man, i just don't care about business logic. f**k the business. f**k the safe option. f**k the status quo. Take a risk damn it, sell the network. Cena doesn't sell shit except for shirts to little jimmies. Little jimmies don't buy the network. Surprise us with something ffs.

 

[Big Pete]

Man, i just don't care about business logic. f**k the business. f**k the safe option. f**k the status quo. Take a risk damn it, sell the network. Cena doesn't sell shit except for shirts to little jimmies. Little jimmies don't buy the network. Surprise us with something ffs.

Then go watch TNA where they hot-shot through every wrestler they can.

Watching through Money in the Bank again...

Usos v Wyatts felt like a match right out of Main Event. A 'fun' match but not necessarily 'good' because it felt like both teams cared more about flying than winning. I don't mind the Usos resorting to aerial offence to counter-act the size disadvantage but I'd prefer to see the Wyatts lay their stuff in and give the Uso brothers a real beating before they take to the skies. It'd just create a better contrast, leading to more drama which in turn makes the victory that much sweeter for the Usos.

Paige and Naomi tried, but their match sucked. I loved the part where Paige spent a good minute locking in this sweet submission for Naomi only to completely no-sell the leg like she was Shawn Michaels.

Sandow is probably one of the best promos in the business, but it's pretty clear he's in a spot where he's basically got to carry whatever asinine creative has and turn it into gold. He damn near succeeds everytime too but doesn't get anything for it. Instead, he's put in this third match on the card Monday Night Raw esque match with Rose that has no heat. It isn't even that bad either, although I feel it's pretty obvious that Sandow is a league above Rose at this point who still isn't quite comfortable in his skin and seems to be playing against his type. It was okay, but a victim of really poor booking.

The MitB briefcase match would have to be one of the better MitB matches in history. Just a very well balanced match with a central narrative between Ambrose/Rollins but plenty of fun spots involving guys like Ziggler, Kingston & RVD. Swagger was also a pretty decent spoiler in this match, always coming in and ruining big moments to get nice heat. Kane's involvement was lazy but protected Ambrose and as long as we don't get an ill-fated return match from Payback 2013 on PPV, it's not that big a deal.

Rybaxel vs Stardust/Goldust was actually a fun little match that suffered due to a lack of build. Still the fans got into it as the match wore on which is nice and it was a nice show-piece for the Rhodes Brothers. I must admit was sceptical of Stardust, but Cody is really pulling it off so far.

 

[Eelementary]

Jericho!!!!

 

[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

AJ Lee returns.

Excuse me while I go fap for a while...

 

[Big Pete]

Nice!

AJ Lee too.

Might be an idea to get a PPV thread up for Battleground. Nothing wrong with your post Eele, but I came in here to discuss MitB and ended up learning about this piece of awesome news.

 

[Misanthrope]

It is a thread labeled spoilers, Pete. Not sure why Eele would have posted Jericho's return in the Battleground thread given nothing has been announced re: Jericho @ Battleground yet.

 

[Big Pete]

My point is that Eele's post presented a problem since I came on here to discuss the PPV and straight away there's big Raw spoilers.

I'm just saying, it would be nice to continue posting up PPV threads.

 

[Misanthrope]

My point is that Eele's post presented a problem since I came on here to discuss the PPV and straight away there's big Raw spoilers.

I'm just saying, it would be nice to continue posting up PPV threads.

I don't know why people were discussing Money in the Bank in the Raw thread to begin with.

I renamed it to WWE Superthread, but nothing stopping people from making individual PPV threads if they so desire.

 

[Big Pete]

It's a bit like Field of Dreams, if you create it, they will come.

Appreciate it Mis.

Back to MitB...

Big E/Rusev was actually a really decent hoss match that suffered because Big E has been booked so poorly as of late. If Big E had been on a tear and this was booked as the first big test of Rusev, it would have been a much better match. Instead, it's a rematch that was announced on the very last television show and as such the big spots just didn't matter as much as they should have.

Summer Rae v Layla was pretty depressing. It's like they had three spots worth of material, it tanked and so they went right for the mercy finish. I actually didn't mind the idea of this match since it actually had a storyline to it but it needed to be fleshed out way more than it was.

The championship Money in the Bank was solid but underwhelming. The problem was that the WWE basically booked all their biggest stars in one match without considering the logistics so you end up with a lot of similar wrestlers which leads to a lot of flat spots, which this match had.

However, it had some decent points to it as well. I found the Orton/Kane alliance pretty intriguing. I wish they would have gone further with this and made Sheamus or Del Rio members or mercenaries of the Authority and tasked them with the job of tending to Cena and Reigns. Heck, even if they made a deal with Heyman or Wyatt, I think it would have given the match more of an edge and made better use of their roster.

In saying that, I liked the work from Cesaro and Sheamus. Cesaro in particular took a fantastic RKO off the ladder and I thought they had the spot of the match as they fought on the leaning ladder structure.

I also thought the match for the most part was put together well. Reigns was given all the superstar moments and really got to shine, I don't think he quite made the most of it but the thought was there. Finish seemingly worked well too. It could have backfired, but I think they did a really good job of making Kane/Orton seem so detestable, that the fans actually got behind Cena winning the match.

Mind you, there were times where it did backfire. They didn't care for Sheamus' run, nor Romans and the big Cena/Roman staredown basically resulted in crickets.

So yeah, it was okay but I believe with a better line-up, better build and structure, the match could have been far better.

You could basically say the exact same thing about the show really. Due to the homogenous nature of these gimmick PPVs, it's difficult to really distinguish shows and sell matches based on a gimmick. This championship Money in the Bank match should have felt like a huge deal, instead it was just another June PPV for the WWE.