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1. French
2. Auvaa
3. Jennings
4. Hayne
5. Hoffman
6. Norman
7. Moses
8. Mannah
9. King
10. Alvaro
11. Mau
12. Moeroa
13. Brown

14.Scott
15. Taka
16. Matagi
17. Evans
 

Joshuatheeel

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Sure... If we play finals 2 out of next 3 yrs and win a couple of finals games, develop an Australian prop, perhaps NSW halfback and debut a few quality juniors a year id put us on same level as well.
That would make us 3/4 years in finals.....

But but but, you want to sack him this year if we don't make the finals ? Yet gus only finished 11th in his 5th season.

What does having a Aust prop or Potential nsw half have to do with coaching ability ?

What's the use of debuting juniors if they aren't better then what we have ?
 

Poupou Escobar

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Well if he's played in the halves before then clearly someone who knows a lot more about footy than us merkins thinks he has the ability.
The lower grades are used to find a player’s best position(s), since every player with NRL potential no doubt played ‘five-eight’ his entire junior career.
 

hindy111

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But but but, you want to sack him this year if we don't make the finals ? Yet gus only finished 11th in his 5th season.

What does having a Aust prop or Potential nsw half have to do with coaching ability ?

What's the use of debuting juniors if they aren't better then what we have ?


He developed and spotted the talent. Have the Panthers been great NO. but better then we have ffs. One final apearance since 2009. Its frustrating.
The idea behind debut a guy like Niakuore is rewarding him. It sets a tone for pther younger guys. If your at a job busting your gut whilst guys in better position arent doing well but not getting dropped you might look for an opportunity elsewhere.
Heads must roll this week. End of story. If Niaukore doesnt get a taste its a big X for me against the coach as Sharks are ready to sign him.

I still feel we will make the top 8. I like BA. But if we miss out then id look at his job,

We also failed in 2014 when we had two average teams to play. We needed to win just one of those and failed to. We got belted in them.

I feel like BURT should of been made assistant to BA.
 

emjaycee

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I am not sure BA will make any unforced changes, however if he thinks the problem is attitude and wants to use Wenty to scare some players I wouldn't mind seeing:

1. French
2, Gennings
3. Jennings
4. Hayne
5. Hoffman
6. Norman
7. Moses

8. Alvaro (suspension pending)
9. Pritchard
10. Evans
11. Ma'u
12. Edwards
13. Brown

14. Stone
15. Mannah (if Alavaro out, Mannah to start and Vave to bench)
16. Gower
17. Niukore

I am assuming King and Moeroa are out and I am giving Taka and Kirisome a "rest" like Beau got last week.

Edit: Also giving Matagi a rest.
 
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I am not sure BA will make any unforced changes, however if he thinks the problem is attitude and wants to use Wenty to scare some players I wouldn't mind seeing:

1. French
2, Gennings
3. Jennings
4. Hayne
5. Hoffman
6. Norman
7. Moses

8. Alvaro (suspension pending)
9. Pritchard
10. Evans
11. Ma'u
12. Edwards
13. Brown

14. Stone
15. Mannah (if Alavaro out, Mannah to start and Vave to bench)
16. Gower
17. Niukore

I am assuming King and Moeroa are out and I am giving Taka and Kirisome a "rest" like Beau got last week.
I reckon Scott at least will be back from his rest.
 

hindy111

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I am not sure BA will make any unforced changes, however if he thinks the problem is attitude and wants to use Wenty to scare some players I wouldn't mind seeing:

1. French
2, Gennings
3. Jennings
4. Hayne
5. Hoffman
6. Norman
7. Moses

8. Alvaro (suspension pending)
9. Pritchard
10. Evans
11. Ma'u
12. Edwards
13. Brown

14. Stone
15. Mannah (if Alavaro out, Mannah to start and Vave to bench)
16. Gower
17. Niukore

I am assuming King and Moeroa are out and I am giving Taka and Kirisome a "rest" like Beau got last week.

Thoughts on Stone? I feel Scott will be back.
 

Poupou Escobar

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He developed and spotted the talent. Have the Panthers been great NO. but better then we have ffs. One final apearance since 2009. Its frustrating.
The idea behind debut a guy like Niakuore is rewarding him. It sets a tone for pther younger guys. If your at a job busting your gut whilst guys in better position arent doing well but not getting dropped you might look for an opportunity elsewhere.
Heads must roll this week. End of story. If Niaukore doesnt get a taste its a big X for me against the coach as Sharks are ready to sign him.

I still feel we will make the top 8. I like BA. But if we miss out then id look at his job,

We also failed in 2014 when we had two average teams to play. We needed to win just one of those and failed to. We got belted in them.

I feel like BURT should of been made assistant to BA.
You don’t want to debut too many merkins if you feel you’ve got a shot at a premiership. Should Arthur be writing off 2018 already? If not we should be picking our best players each week and letting them play their way back into form rather than arseholing them to Wenty. Which scapegoats do we blame for the Brookvale loss? And how healthy is it to let every other merkin off the hook by only dropping two or three players. And why reward anyone who’s been playing for Wenty, after what they’ve dished up?
 

Twizzle

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I see Alvaro has a case to answer, what about DCE for lifting in the tackle ?
 

Joshuatheeel

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He developed and spotted the talent. Have the Panthers been great NO. but better then we have ffs. One final apearance since 2009. Its frustrating.
The idea behind debut a guy like Niakuore is rewarding him. It sets a tone for pther younger guys. If your at a job busting your gut whilst guys in better position arent doing well but not getting dropped you might look for an opportunity elsewhere.
Heads must roll this week. End of story. If Niaukore doesnt get a taste its a big X for me against the coach as Sharks are ready to sign him.

I still feel we will make the top 8. I like BA. But if we miss out then id look at his job,

We also failed in 2014 when we had two average teams to play. We needed to win just one of those and failed to. We got belted in them.

I feel like BURT should of been made assistant to BA.

You never said heads must roll when Gus finished 11th in his 5th season.

How have the panthers been better ffs!!

It's not hard Gus took over a club that finished 2nd the year before!!! Gus have no board issues, no CEO issues!! Nothing no issues what so ever, he had full control!!! He couldn't then get the side to the finals for another 4 years!! That is f**ken crap!!

BA took over a side that had won the wooden spoon the two years before!!! He got them to finals within 4 years!! And he had a shit load more issues with boards / CEOs etc etc!!

Last year you were claiming Moylan was the greatest player in the comp, yet Gus couldn't even man manage him, he f**ked it up that bad Moylan had to leave the club - never heard a word about that from you ? Gus letting one of best players in the comp leave !!! But FFS you are giving it to BA because a fringe forward may leave ? Seriously talk about double standards.

Now if you can't see that BA has had done a better result then Gus, you must be blinded by your love of the panthers!!

Failed in 2014? Are you kidding yourself? At least BA had us in contention, Gus was to busy making excuses, even through he inherited a top 2 squad!!

You know why Burt wasn't appointed? You post on here like you know everything about footy but can't even work out why Burt wasn't appointed !! Gentle was our forwards coach!! Burt isn't a forwards coach!!
 

emjaycee

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You don’t want to debut too many merkins if you feel you’ve got a shot at a premiership. Should Arthur be writing off 2018 already? If not we should be picking our best players each week and letting them play their way back into form rather than arseholing them to Wenty. Which scapegoats do we blame for the Brookvale loss? And how healthy is it to let every other merkin off the hook by only dropping two or three players. And why reward anyone who’s been playing for Wenty, after what they’ve dished up?
I think it is one thing for supporters like us to pick out a scapegoat but BA and the coaching staff have a lot more information on each players performance to assess and assist them in their decision making. If they believe there are two or three players who, while not being solely accountable for the weekends loss, were instrumental in it or at best were the worst performers in a bad lot, then they should be demoted.
Conversely, the better Wenty performers should be given a chance. Keep in mind that neither Gower, Edwards or Pritchard played for Wenty on the weekend (Pritchard and Edwards haven't played there this year) and Gower is a last start winner for Wenty (Round 1).

Personally I was somewhat discouraged by Kirisome's comments in his presser last week that he prefers to play centres and is still learning the wing role. Go learn it at Wenty and give someone else a go son.
 

hindy111

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You never said heads must roll when Gus finished 11th in his 5th season.

How have the panthers been better ffs!!

It's not hard Gus took over a club that finished 2nd the year before!!! Gus have no board issues, no CEO issues!! Nothing no issues what so ever, he had full control!!! He couldn't then get the side to the finals for another 4 years!! That is f**ken crap!!

BA took over a side that had won the wooden spoon the two years before!!! He got them to finals within 4 years!! And he had a shit load more issues with boards / CEOs etc etc!!

Last year you were claiming Moylan was the greatest player in the comp, yet Gus couldn't even man manage him, he f**ked it up that bad Moylan had to leave the club - never heard a word about that from you ? Gus letting one of best players in the comp leave !!! But FFS you are giving it to BA because a fringe forward may leave ? Seriously talk about double standards.

Now if you can't see that BA has had done a better result then Gus, you must be blinded by your love of the panthers!!

Failed in 2014? Are you kidding yourself? At least BA had us in contention, Gus was to busy making excuses, even through he inherited a top 2 squad!!

You know why Burt wasn't appointed? You post on here like you know everything about footy but can't even work out why Burt wasn't appointed !! Gentle was our forwards coach!! Burt isn't a forwards coach!!

Burt posed a threat to BA.

Moylan I said was the best ball play in comp. He is a great ball player. Hid defense is crap and a bit of a cat though. Now discipline was the issue here. And many reports that he was up to no good with some certain things. Gould wont tolerate that kind of shit. Also players wanted him gone due to his shanangans and wild nights. Plus the emergence of Cleary.

Like I said its time for a few heads to roll even if for 1 or 2 weeks. Short term pain for long term gain.
Evans first and Matagi.
 

hindy111

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I think it is one thing for supporters like us to pick out a scapegoat but BA and the coaching staff have a lot more information on each players performance to assess and assist them in their decision making. If they believe there are two or three players who, while not being solely accountable for the weekends loss, were instrumental in it or at best were the worst performers in a bad lot, then they should be demoted.
Conversely, the better Wenty performers should be given a chance. Keep in mind that neither Gower, Edwards or Pritchard played for Wenty on the weekend (Pritchard and Edwards haven't played there this year) and Gower is a last start winner for Wenty (Round 1).

Personally I was somewhat discouraged by Kirisome's comments in his presser last week that he prefers to play centres and is still learning the wing role. Go learn it at Wenty and give someone else a go son.

I read that Kaysa and Gower did.
Mahoney went back too under 20s. Niakuore first game back.

The halves for Wenty are not going to win games.
 

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