Where would a second NZ team play?

[Brian potter]

Which is why we are talking about another nz side lol

Separate from the warriors.

 

[Perth Red]

Is it fully roofed ?

if it is is the roof retractable

Yes fully roofed, no not retractable. Great looking stadium. 25k capacity with drop in further 5k seats if needed.

cost $nz 683mill

Te Kaha - Christchurch Stadium | New Christchurch Stadium

Te Kaha is the new Christchurch stadium in the centre of Otautahi, Christchurch, the ideal place to host all the biggest and best games, gigs and events from New Zealand and around the world.

www.te-kaha.co.nz

 

[Wb1234]

Separate from the warriors.

Most of nz lives on the north island

South Island has a fairly small population.

an nrl team solely based in the South Island would struggle imo

if you have to pick one then Wellington and places around it

 

[jim_57]

All teams should have a majority home stadium where they play at least 8-9 games in my opinion, non-Sydney teams should be even more, 10 at minimum. Wellington & Christchurch could both have their own teams day hopefully.

I wouldn’t mind a South Island team taking 1-2 games to Dunedin with the rest at Christchurch or a Wellington team taking 1-2 to places like Napier or New Plymouth.

 

[Perth Red]

Wellington doesn’t have a good stadium. Nz2 is likely to have a small active supporter base.

 

[jim_57]

Most of nz lives on the north island

South Island has a fairly small population.

an nrl team solely based in the South Island would struggle imo

if you have to pick one then Wellington and places around it

Most of the North Island lives in & around Auckland. South Island has about 1.1m people, Canterbury region around 650k of that. Wellington has slightly less in the immediate vicinity but more within easy travelling distance from memory. @flippikat would be able to give a better summation I’m sure.

 

[MugaB]

Seeing lots of people in favour of the NRL admitting a second NZ team. But there seems to be a shortage of detail on any official bids. Is there genuine interest and more specifically where would they play and what would they be called?

Christchurch in the new Te Kaha Stadium is one option if so, would they be called Christchurch? Canterbury? Southern or South Island?

Would Wellington be a good place for an NRL team? Auckland has nearly 2 million people in the city which is more than enough for a second NRL team, how about that?

Hamilton, Waikato, build the derby, then expand to Wellington and Christchurch there after

 

[Brian potter]

Most of the North Island lives in & around Auckland. South Island has about 1.1m people, Canterbury region around 650k of that. Wellington has slightly less in the immediate vicinity but more within easy travelling distance from memory. @flippikat would be able to give a better summation I’m sure.

According to data the current population of Christchurch is just over 400k and the greater Christchurch area has a projected population of just over 600k by 2030.

this is more than enough to sustain a NRL team imo.

 

[Perth Red]

According to data the current population of Christchurch is just over 400k and the greater Christchurch area has a projected population of just over 600k by 2030.

this is more than enough to sustain a NRL team imo.

If it was the number 1 sport yes, as a number 2 sport? Not so sure.

 

[Brian potter]

If it was the number 1 sport yes, as a number 2 sport? Not so sure.

I think the interest is already there and a lot would depend on results but I think to start off with a support base of around 10-12k would be a success.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Since V'Landy wants it in the south then Invercargill is clearly the front runner - they'll win every home game as Oz teams wont be able to handle the conditions.

Invercargill is the arsehole of the universe so they’ll probably just forfeit to save going there

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Most of the North Island lives in & around Auckland. South Island has about 1.1m people, Canterbury region around 650k of that. Wellington has slightly less in the immediate vicinity but more within easy travelling distance from memory. @flippikat would be able to give a better summation I’m sure.

there’s very little in it.
Wellington functional urban area is 414K, plus 46K next door in the Kapiti Coast (half an hour up the new motorway)
Christchurch functional urban area is 470K.
Wellington would start to pull ahead once you start talking about places within a couple of hours drive, but within 100km or so it’s pretty equal.

 

[jim_57]

there’s very little in it.
Wellington functional urban area is 414K, plus 46K next door in the Kapiti Coast (half an hour up the new motorway)
Christchurch functional urban area is 470K.
Wellington would start to pull ahead once you start talking about places within a couple of hours drive, but within 100km or so it’s pretty equal.

Thanks, sounds like population won’t be a deciding factor then. Waikato looks like similar numbers too.

Regarding Christchurch do you think a “South Island” branded team could work in a similar manner to North Queensland? Maybe playing a couple games a year in Dunedin and a trial in Nelson. Or would the rest of the South Island just see it as a Canterbury team however you painted it?

 

[Gobsmacked]

Southern rebellion.
Based in Christchurch with 1 games in Dunedin and 1 in Wellington

 

[Gobsmacked]

South Pacific Pirates

 

[Perth Red]

South Pacific Pirates

Won’t that be confusing with the west coast pirates having already been admitted to the nrl a few years earlier?

 

[Gobsmacked]

Won’t that be confusing with the west coast pirates having already been admitted to the nrl a few years earlier?

What ever happened to that bid ?
I'd say it won't be used again.
The best bet is to bring back the Reds if anything, a little history and feel good story reinstating an old franchise.
There's a whole country banging at the door of the NRL on the other hand with enough talent for 2 quality international teams capable of beating Australia.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Thanks, sounds like population won’t be a deciding factor then. Waikato looks like similar numbers too.

Waikato itself very similar- 515K in the region and the vast bulk of those within an hour of Hamilton. Plus another 350K in the adjoining Bay of Plenty region a little over an hour away.

Regarding Christchurch do you think a “South Island” branded team could work in a similar manner to North Queensland? Maybe playing a couple games a year in Dunedin and a trial in Nelson. Or would the rest of the South Island just see it as a Canterbury team however you painted it?

Cantabrians are probably the most parochial people in NZ- if it was based primarily in Christchurch you'd probably just brand it as a Christchurch or Canterbury team.

 

[flippikat]

Waikato itself very similar- 515K in the region and the vast bulk of those within an hour of Hamilton. Plus another 350K in the adjoining Bay of Plenty region a little over an hour away.


Cantabrians are probably the most parochial people in NZ- if it was based primarily in Christchurch you'd probably just brand it as a Christchurch or Canterbury team.

Yeah, that's a big risk for Christchurch-based side, could easily be just a Christchurch-supported side.. plus the Crusaders are a huge presence there, so a tough task carving a niche for an NRL team there.

Problem is the other prime candidate - my city Wellington - just doesn't have a great record of sporting success or active fan engagement. Dunno whether we're too metropolitan/arty, or if it's the "lovable loser" experience that makes us less emotionally invested in our teams or what it is.

 

[Wb1234]

Yeah, that's a big risk for Christchurch-based side, could easily be just a Christchurch-supported side.. plus the Crusaders are a huge presence there, so a tough task carving a niche for an NRL team there.

Problem is the other prime candidate - my city Wellington - just doesn't have a great record of sporting success or active fan engagement. Dunno whether we're too metropolitan/arty, or if it's the "lovable loser" experience that makes us less emotionally invested in our teams or what it is.

What happened to the hurricanes ? Or whatever the Wellington super rugby side was

do you think the average staidum has played a part