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Poupou Escobar

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You didn't answer the question. Why is it that conservatives in the UK believe the position of science in the UK, however their counterparts in AU do not ? It's a tad too simplistic and naive to suggest that they were simply hoodwinked and bought the hoax hook line and sinker.
People believe the science that suits them. The British economy isn't going to suffer too much from the climate-industrial complex, so there's no harm in going along with whichever moral panic is currently fashionable.
You're a little rusty on the history merkin. No, she arranged the climate strike for schools globally. Got a boat to the UN and said some stuff. Nobody chose her. MSM certainly followed her around and gave her a platform.
Does the media choose which media products merkins want to consume? Or do they just fill the demand?

Greta is a female child with a disability. Her supporters think she's bulletproof. Anyone who criticises is a mysogynist. If only she was also a PoC, her detractors could be racist too.
 

Gronk

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People believe the science that suits them. The British economy isn't going to suffer too much from the climate-industrial complex, so there's no harm in going along with whichever moral panic is currently fashionable.
Nope, you didn’t answer the question again. How can one group of conservatives be ideologically opposed to the concept of climate change and their counterparts in the UK accept the science? You nearly got there with your comment about the British economy. Try again.

Does the media choose which media products merkins want to consume? Or do they just fill the demand?
Both. The media report current affairs and quite often create their own two headed beasts to achieve narrative momentum.

Greta is a female child with a disability. Her supporters think she's bulletproof. Anyone who criticises is a mysogynist. If only she was also a PoC, her detractors could be racist too.
Who are these people you speak of ? Random people on social media ?
 

Poupou Escobar

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Nope, you didn’t answer the question again. How can one group of conservatives be ideologically opposed to the concept of climate change and their counterparts in the UK accept the science? You nearly got there with your comment about the British economy. Try again.
Well it sounds like you think you know the answer. Why don't you tell us? Why are Australian conservatives more evil or stupid than those in the UK?
Both. The media report current affairs and quite often create their own two headed beasts to achieve narrative momentum.

Who are these people you speak of ? Random people on social media ?
All the people buying Greta the media morality product. If she didn't have fans she wouldn't generate media dollars.
 

Gronk

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Well it sounds like you think you know the answer. Why don't you tell us? Why are Australian conservatives more evil or stupid than those in the UK?
Evil or stupid is your label. Plato said that prudence is the chief among values. Australian Conservatives prefer the devil they know, rather than the devil they don’t know. So financial prudence and moral caution is what they know best. The conundrum is why the British Conservatives found comfort in the transition to renewables. John Howard introduced an Emissions Trading Scheme in 2007 - around the time that the Brits commenced their step away from coal. His words ...

"Australia will more than play its part to address climate change but will do it in a practical and balanced way in full knowledge of the economic consequences for our nation," Johnny said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2007-07-17/howard-announces-emissions-trading-system/2505080

Yet since then it’s all gone pear shaped. Imagine how advanced in renewables / low emissions we’d have been if we followed that trajectory?

All the people buying Greta the media morality product. If she didn't have fans she wouldn't generate media dollars.
Nah people are just curious. She will be almost forgotten next year. What gave her momentum was her critics rather than her supporters. The “Quiet Australians” were on tilt. Busy making memes.
 

Bandwagon

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Yeah, she certainly triggered the conservatives, plenty of lols in their bleating over a little girl.
 

Gronk

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I reckon he us far smarter then he makes out.
Or maybe he become a billionaire by fluke.
He was born wealthy. Even after losing squillions in a casino and other business ventures. Banks would not touch him with a 10 foot pole, hence why he had to borrow from Russian Oligarchs. He’s a fairly decent property developer, but based on his inability to borrow a dime from any US bank, he isn’t as good as he thinks he is.
 

hindy111

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He was born wealthy. Even after losing squillions in a casino and other business ventures. Banks would not touch him with a 10 foot pole, hence why he had to borrow from Russian Oligarchs. He’s a fairly decent property developer, but based on his inability to borrow a dime from any US bank, he isn’t as good as he thinks he is.

Born wealthy but not a billionaire.
Not like he was born into the Packer family.
 

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