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Poupou Escobar

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It's not bad luck, It's bad management. There's a massive difference.

He was the best half on the market. He was killing it at Souths. He went badly downhill at Parra and now we can't move him on.

It's not my fault sandow didn't work out, although I was always against his signing.

You're against every f**king signing. As a Parra fan you're bound to be right if you predict new signings will suck. We're specials at it.

Dont be a hater because somebody has a differing opinion to yours.

You need to take your own advice.
 

Poupou Escobar

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It's just a load of spin and bullshit. We always produced good juniors - look at them all running around for other clubs.
 

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The guy who signed most of our current team?

Radradra
Tonga
Hopoate
Toutai
Kelly
Mannah
Moimoi
Smith

Paulo
Tanginoa
Terepo
Lussick

Don't forget he set up the #academy

I think you're drawing a very very long bow saying Kearney had anything to do with the 'signing' of Mannah, Moi Moi and Smith. He might have re-signed Smith on a 4 year deal when he was already injury prone and chose to keep both Mannah and Moi Moi because he couldnt attract anyone better.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I was against the Moimoi and Smith re-signings. But you're right - because the club had to pay overs to bring players in, we were better off re-signing the ones we had. Kearney got rid of the right ones but. We were outbid for Tupou, and Taufua wasn't ready for first grade when we let him go. We already had plenty of reserve grade wingers.

Kearney's biggest f**k up was hanging on to Keating. That, and coming to the worst club in the comp.
 

Chipmunk

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I was against the Moimoi and Smith re-signings. But you're right - because the club had to pay overs to bring players in, we were better off re-signing the ones we had. Kearney got rid of the right ones but. We were outbid for Tupou, and Taufua wasn't ready for first grade when we let him go. We already had plenty of reserve grade wingers.

Kearney's biggest f**k up was hanging on to Keating. That, and coming to the worst club in the comp.

Keating was of Kearney's favourite. I think if Kearney had stayed around he wouldve been made Keating Captain of the team well ahead of Hayne.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Plenty of coaches loved Matt Keating. He came through Brian Smith's system, and was picked in first grade by Hagan, Anderson, Kearney and Stuart. And two of those guys have won premierships.

Keating's problem is the game evolved past him. In the age of split halves, there's no place for a dummy half without playmaking skills.
 

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Plenty of coaches loved Matt Keating. He came through Brian Smith's system, and was picked in first grade by Hagan, Anderson, Kearney and Stuart. And two of those guys have won premierships.

Keating's problem is the game evolved past him. In the age of split halves, there's no place for a dummy half without playmaking skills.

Was the picking of Matt Keating because they had no other genuiine alternative though? The only time during the entire Keating era that we actually played any decent football was when Kevin Kingston was given a run to play the dummy half role off the bench. Outside of that 12 week period a the back of 2009 we have been nothing short of woeful whilst Keating was here!

Am I right in suggesting that it was only two of those coaches in Hagan and Kearney (who it was previously pointed out loved Keating) that actually re-signed him? Where Anderson and Stuart were essentially stuck with him as there was no other choice.
 

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Keating was of Kearney's favourite. I think if Kearney had stayed around he wouldve been made Keating Captain of the team well ahead of Hayne.

I still remember that post game press conference where Keating was captain and was answering a question from the press, then Kearney put his arm around him, only for Keating to give Kearney a strange look and he removed his arm right away.

That aside, I think coaches liked Keating because he tried hard. I have respect myself for Keating because as much as he's a shit player and not up to NRL standard, he looked like one of the few players that was making the effort for us week in and week out for the past couple of years. It's a shame we've been let down by more talented footballers who could do with his work ethic.
 

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He was the best half on the market. He was killing it at Souths. He went badly downhill at Parra and now we can't move him on.

We still talking about sandow here. The most ad-lib off the cuff footballer recruited to play the most boring, Structured one dimensional football of the last decade. The same sandow that has never played or guided his team to semi final footy and has gotten into strife no matter which team he has played for?

Please confirm.


You're against every f**king signing. As a Parra fan you're bound to be right if you predict new signings will suck. We're specials at it.\
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I was against a lot of shit that went down at the eels over the past five years and I wouldn't take a word back.

Some of the recent signings have been absolutely laughable. Thank god we seem to be on the right track now, and may start winning a few.
 
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Poupou Escobar

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Was the picking of Matt Keating because they had no other genuiine alternative though? The only time during the entire Keating era that we actually played any decent football was when Kevin Kingston was given a run to play the dummy half role off the bench. Outside of that 12 week period a the back of 2009 we have been nothing short of woeful whilst Keating was here!

Am I right in suggesting that it was only two of those coaches in Hagan and Kearney (who it was previously pointed out loved Keating) that actually re-signed him? Where Anderson and Stuart were essentially stuck with him as there was no other choice.

Anderson had Kingston, Mitchell and Mortimer. Stuart had Nathan Smith.

Kearney had all of those 'options' bar Kingston. He also brought Casey McGuire to the club.
 

Poupou Escobar

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We still talking about sandow here. The most ad-lib off the cuff footballer recruited to play the most boring, Structured one dimensional football of the last decade. The same sandow that has never played or guided his team to semi final footy and has gotten into strife no matter which team he has played for?

Please confirm.

The same Sandow who had never won a wooden spoon either before coming to Parra?

Please confirm.

As for the football, it wasn't structured; that's why it looked so disorganised. You can't have it both ways mate. You can't whinge that it was disorganised and then say it was too structured.

We played with split halves, and the gameplan was bash it up the middle until you get a quick a play-the-ball, then give it to Sandow (right) or Roberts (left) to play what's in front of him. Our problem (in attack) was no quick play-the-balls. That left no space for our off-the-cuff players.

'Too structured' lol. We were all over the place. Have a look at Kearney's Kiwi side. Are they 'too structured'?

I was against a lot of shit that went down at the eels over the past five years

That's because you're a negative person who does nothing but f**king criticise.
 

Maroubra Eel

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I was against the Moimoi and Smith re-signings. But you're right - because the club had to pay overs to bring players in, we were better off re-signing the ones we had. Kearney got rid of the right ones but. We were outbid for Tupou, and Taufua wasn't ready for first grade when we let him go. We already had plenty of reserve grade wingers.

Kearney's biggest f**k up was hanging on to Keating. That, and coming to the worst club in the comp.

SK made us into the worst club in the comp.
 

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SK made us into the worst club in the comp.

We were just unlucky mate. Two years of injuries to key players/leaders Hayne, Tonga, Loko and Ben Smith hurt us on the field. Two years of merkins whingeing about the board hurt us off it.

We were already shit when Kearney arrived.
 

Maroubra Eel

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We were just unlucky mate. Two years of injuries to key players/leaders Hayne, Tonga, Loko and Ben Smith hurt us on the field. Two years of merkins whingeing about the board hurt us off it.

We were already shit when Kearney arrived.

Who was whinging about the board?
 
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