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08 :: GFQ2 Sat :: Sea Eagles 32 Warriors 6 (NZW eliminated) @ SFS

Grand Finalist #2?


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gong_eagle

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Sea Eagles v Warriors Preview
NRL.com

Sydney Football Stadium
Saturday 7.45pm
http://nrl.com/News/Latest/tabid/10244/default.aspx?id=52995

TWO sides with incredible momentum square off in the second qualifying final for this year’s premiership decider – but despite the Warriors’ blistering displays over the past fortnight the Sea Eagles will start warm favourites to win.

TAB Sportsbet is quoting the Sydney-based side at $1.36 and the Kiwi outfit at $3; that will be music to the ears of Warriors’ coach Ivan Cleary who has seen his side win 10 of their past 12 games, most of them as underdogs.

From eighth place they’ve already felled the number one and number four sides and the news for them just keeps getting better – this week they get major strike weapon Wade McKinnon back from suspension, which has afforded them the “luxury” of benching the devastating Lance Hohaia who was easily their best player in their defeat of the Roosters last week.

Injuries?

The Warriors have none.

Zilch. Now that’s almost unheard of at a rugby league club at this stage of the season…

Cleary has named a six-man bench, with Grant Rovelli in jersey 20 and Epalahame Lauaki in 20.

Meanwhile the Sea Eagles have had a refreshing week’s break since their demolition of the Dragons in Finals Week 1.

Likewise they have all troops on deck. They’ve named a five-man bench, with Adam Cuthbertson (jersey 21) likely to be the omission.

Steve Menzies will be hoping he can get across the try line again here – he needs just one more four-pointer to make it 150 in the maroon-and-white.

Watch out Sea Eagles: Manu Vatuvei remains in devastating form on the left wing for the Warriors and it’s no surprise they’ve scored 50 of their 96 tries on that side, compared to just 24 on the right.

Marking him for the Manly side will be rookie David Williams, who himself has been in good attacking form but who has been a little shaky defensively.

So far Williams is missing 42 per cent of his tackle attempts – given Vatuvei ranks 11th in the comp for tackle breaks with 105 (from an injury-shortened season) Manly coach Des Hasler will have been drumming into his troops the importance of getting to Vatuvei in numbers.

Watch out Warriors: The Kiwis’ left-edge defence needs to be watertight here or it will spring a leak at the hands of one of the Sea Eagles’ favourite plays – a second-man shift wide to their right from a play-the-ball inside the 10-metre zone near the posts, or else a decoy shift where Matt Orford, Jamie Lyon or Glenn Stewart will pop a short flat ball to the likes of Anthony Watmough who’ll be hitting the line at speed.

The Warriors are particularly vulnerable on their left edge – they’ve conceded 49 tries down that corridor compared to just 32 on the other flank.

Look also for deft kicks behind the likes of Vatuvei; he’s fast, but as a big man he finds it difficult to turn and chase.

Where it will be won: Defence.

There’s no doubt this will be a fast and open game with plenty of points in it – the Sea Eagles have scored more tries than any other team this year (125) while the Warriors’ 96 four-pointers ranks them fifth in the comp.

That makes it all the more likely that the winner will be the team who manages to match defensive grunt with their abundant flair in attack.

The worry for the Warriors is the Sea Eagles appear to be pretty solid across the park defensively – their 64 tries conceded is broken down into 25 on their left edge, 15 in centre-field and 24 on the right.

So to get across the line the Warriors will need to mix up their attacking plays; it’s unlikely they’ll get too much joy in any one area.

The History: Played 15; Sea Eagles 9, Warriors 6.

The Sea Eagles have won six of the past eight games, including two wins this year.

In round 3 at Brookvale Oval they blasted the Warriors 52-6 to register their biggest ever win over the Kiwis.

Conclusion: Without a serious hit-out over the past month – they thrashed the Wests Tigers, Titans, Panthers and then the Dragons – Manly will be thankful they’re not coming up against the battle-hardened Storm or the Sharks in their quest to go one better this year.

The Warriors are on a roll but the Sea Eagles will feel a lot more comfortable trying to thwart their open, offloading style of play than they would had they squared up against an in-your-face team.

Ditto Matt Orford, who needs space and time to play to his best.

But that easy month still presents a worry for the Manly side – they need to roll up their sleeves and take it to the Warriors early – look for props Brent Kite and Josh Perry to lay a frantic platform in the opening 20 minutes.

It will be interesting to see how McKinnon slots back into a side that arguably fired on an extra cylinder in his absence.

And while it would appear to be more of a “home” game for Manly than the Warriors, the Northern Beaches boys have worryingly only won one of their past seven finals games away from Brookvale Oval.

But we’ll lean towards Manly: their grand final loss last year will still be burning inside them and they will all know they are just 80 minutes from another tilt and a chance to balance the ledger.

Match officials: Referee – Shayne Hayne; Sideline Officials – Paul Holland & Matt Cecchin; Video refs – Steve Clark & Phil Cooley.

Televised:
Channel Nine – Live from 7.30pm; Fox Sports 2 – Delayed from 10.30pm.
 

gong_eagle

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Size doesn't matter … Manly's David Williams.
Photo: Craig Golding

The Wolfman's next stand-up role: Brooky and The Beast

September 25, 2008
http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/new...1222217331199.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1


Winger David Williams will have his hands full when Manly take on the Warriors this weekend, writes Andrew Stevenson.
What a duel awaits this weekend, following rugby league's week of grappling with a takeover by wrestlers … The Beast versus The Wolfman.
Thankfully, these two don't feature in the clinches designed to slow the game down to a dawdle. Instead, they haunt the wide open grasses of the wing and they'll come into regular violent contact on Saturday night when Manly play the Warriors for a grand-final berth. One-on-one, beast against wolf, tackle for tackle, try for try.
The Beast is Manu Vatuvei, the Warriors' giant left-winger. Weighing in at 112 kilograms, he stands 189 centimetres tall. But the problem is not when he's standing. Force equals mass times acceleration. The mass is there and so is the acceleration. When Vatuvei is wound up, there's no harder man in the game to stop.
But that's The Wolfman's major responsibility come Saturday, a big ask for David Williams, a 22-year-old in his first season of first grade. He's also giving away a massive 18kg to The Beast, although with 94kg of tightly packed muscle Williams manages to run as if he has the mind of a prop trapped in the body of a speedy winger.
The consequence has been a secure spot on coach Des Hasler's team sheet, the vocal embrace of the Brookvale faithful and 13 stirring tries from his 18 starts this season.
Running as if you're possessed with the power to smash anything out of your way has been Williams's approach ever since he was a child. It's the essence of the game: "That's the whole point of rugby league, isn't it? Run hard and get the sh*t kicked out of you," he laughed.
Vatuvei can help with the second part of that. Williams had no idea how much weight the Kiwi had on his side and was mildly shocked to find it was 18kg.
"He'll always have the size over me. It doesn't matter, I suppose, by how much. I've just got to go in there like I am a prop forward, throw my body at him and see if I come back up," Williams said. "I'll just take him for the good player he is and in good form and go at him 100 per cent. Those sort of players you've certainly got to be in their face."
Standing on the wing can be a lonely place, as Vatuvei - who has crumbled at times under the high ball - knows only too well. Manly's other winger, Michael Robertson, just laughed at the thought of marking Manu: "I'm glad I play on the left. Dave will have his hands full."

Helping Williams on the right-side defence will be veteran centre Steve Bell, who is expected to recover from a calf injury and play.
"The left side is where their good attacking players are," he agreed. "Manu's a hard man to stop in open spaces, so we've got to be on our best.
"Give them half a chance and they usually put on four points."
Hasler will no doubt have ideas on how to stop Vatuvei. But there are plans and then there are plans and the value of further research is somewhat limited.
"Des will probably give us some instructions but it's a different thing once you're out there," laughed Bell.
Williams added: "You don't have to watch much footage to get the general gist of how he plays. I've only played against him once. He actually ran rings around me a couple of times. He's got good pace but it had a bit to do with his upper-body strength as well."
Former Warriors coach Tony Kemp has known Vatuvei since he arrived at the club as a 14-year-old and gave him The Beast moniker, previously owned by Kevin Iro.
"There's not many players who are over 110 kilos, can run sub-11 seconds for 100 metres and actually play the game of rugby league," he said. "He's the form outside back of the competition and the scary thing about it is that his best football is still in front of him."
The last time the Warriors steamrollered their way into the grand final the game plan was the same as it has been since the 2008 team began its powerful run: get it out to the left. In 2002, it was Ali Lauitiiti, Clinton Toopi and Francis Meli, recalled Kemp. This time it's Simon Mannering, Jerome Ropati and Vatuvei.
"They've got to be going into this game against Manly with a lot of confidence," Kemp said. "Their strike weapons are all playing pretty good football at the moment, especially that big beast on the left wing. If Manly are going to stop them, they're going to have to stop that left-hand side."
 
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AuckMel

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Thanks to me good friend Mr. roosterboy60 I have my tickets. Flying up sat morning and going to soak up the whole day.

Go the Warriors!!!!!
 

Murphdogg1

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whats the nearest train station to the sfs

Central bro

Just get a 10 min bus from Central to SFS

I'll be there on Saturday with my best mates whos an ex Nth Sydney fan (so naturally hates Manly :cool:)

I have a feeling this will be a classic!

GO THE WARRIORS!
 
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Manly by 10...will be fresh and will be solid in defence.

Price will have to find something new to chat to the ref about...
 

gong_eagle

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From: CumberlandCourier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q932JO6kqvg

The Sea Eagles had their final open training session yesterday at Narrabeen as they prepare for Saturday night's grand final qualifier against the Warriors at the Sydney Football Stadium.Hear what they have to say about this weekends match.


Kite goes head on with boyhood hero


24 Sep 08 @ 06:02pm by JASON AVEDISSIAN
http://manly-daily.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/kite-goes-head-on-with-boyhood-hero/

HE grew up idolising a former Canberra legend, but on Saturday night will aim to knockdown a Warriors’ champion.

Manly prop Brent Kite grew up in Queanbeyan admiring ex-Raiders centre Ruben Wiki.

The current Warriors’ enforcer started his career in the Australian capital in 1993, before Kite had hit his teens as an equally promising Canberra junior. But now the pair will come together on Saturday night in a clash which will go a long way towards settling the preliminary final at the Sydney Football Stadium.

“I was (eight) years younger than him and I remember saying ‘hi’ to him down at the shops and he was always polite,” Kite recalled of a nervous shopping mall encounter in Canberra on Wednesday.

“He’d say ‘hi’ back and you and your mates would have a giggle that Rubes had said g’day. That’s what I remember about him.

“Even though he’s one of the hard men of the game, he’s always got time for everyone and is a pretty polite sort of fella. He was one of my favourites. I’m a bit of fan of his.

“I used to like the way he played, the big hits coming out of the centres.

“It’s good to see he’s going out on a good note.”

But Kite has no intention for Wiki to go out on top when the two packs collide on Saturday night.

“Getting bailed out in the semi-final wasn’t a goal of ours ... we want to be there on the last day,” the Australian prop said.

“Rubes is running like he’s a young man again.

“Steve Price is doing a good job and they’ve got a couple of young forwards that are ripping it in. The size and the physicality they play with is pretty intimidating but we won’t be taking a backward step.

“We’re playing for a spot in the GF and we feel like we’ve played well enough all year to be in that GF.”

A hope coach Des Hasler wants to turn to reality with a win on Saturday night.

“There’s a real opportunity there to make the grand final, we just need to make the most of it,” he said.


Cuthbo bides his time in Cup squad

25 Sep 08 @ 04:53pm by JASON AVEDISSIAN
http://manly-daily.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/cuthbo-bides-his-time-in-cup-squad/

ADAM Cuthberson is not paid to sit around and feel sorry for himself.

Nothing has ever been gained from hours of self-pity.

With Manly coach Des Hasler opting for the enterprise of Heath L’Estrange off the bench, Cuthbertson’s NRL season has been a little inactive in recent weeks.

Deep down it hurts the Avalon junior, but he’s not about to sag his shoulders and start kicking stones.

“Not being in the team is tough,” Cuthbertson said this week.

“I am (concerned) and I’d rather be out there playing than on the bench and watching the boys.

“It’s taught me a lot the last couple of weeks.

“I’ve got back in the gym, am training hard and getting fitter and when the time does come I’ll be ready to explode and give it all my best and show that I’m meant to be out there.”

Which is all he can really do.

Cuthbertson can play.

The 23-year-old knows how to challenge defenders, often splitting their thoughts on how to best stop him.

There were even calls during the season for the enterprising backrower to be called into the Blues Origin squad.

But he can also push passes that are not always on, earning the ire of the coaching staff.

“I haven’t been too harsh on myself and I don’t think I’ve been playing that bad,” Cuthbertson said of his form.

“It’s just the way it goes.

“Who knows what will happen this week.

“I could get picked.

“I’m feeling fit, feeling better than ever.

“I’m thinking positively, thinking that I’m going to be there.

“I want to get out there and prove myself.”

Prove he deserves a shot at a premiership ring.

Cuthbertson played 60 minutes in Manly’s NSW Cup victory last weekend and is part of a five-man bench ahead of Saturday night’s grand final qualifier against the Warriors at the Sydney Football Stadium.

Pushing the boundary


24 Sep 08 @ 11:51pm by JASON AVEDISSIAN




http://manly-daily.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/pushing-the-boundary/

MANLY second-rower Anthony Watmough is “happy” to continue giving away penalties to ensure the Sea Eagles qualify for successive grand finals.

NRL statistics reveal Watmough is the most penalised player in the game.

The rampaging forward has conceded 25 penalties from 20 appearances, one ahead of the Gold Coast’s Anthony Laffranchi (24) and the Cowboys’ Luke O’Donnell (23).

Watmough admitted to The Manly Daily on Wednesday his passion to lift his teammates often means pushing the limits.

“Everyone loves pushing the boundaries and stupid me probably pushes them more than most,” he said.

“It’s just a bit of passion, trying to hold boys down and get the best advantage for us.

“You don’t want to be the most penalised player, you definitely want to stop giving penalties away.

“But I’m not going to go out there and change my game just because I give away a couple of penalties.

“My game is about working for the team and I’ll leave it how it is. I’m happy to give a couple of penalties away to lift us up.”

A trick which seems to be working.

The Narrabeen junior is a vital member of Manly’s impressive pack as they aim to topple the Warriors in Saturday’s grand final qualifier at the Sydney Football Stadium.

With powerful front-rowers Brent Kite and Josh Perry creating a strong foundation, the likes of Watmough and Glenn Stewart cash in.

“I think our two front-rowers have been the best two front-rowers all year,” Watmough said of his buddies.

“I don’t think there are two better props in the game then our two. I think their form warrants it (Australian selection).”

And if Manly can maintain their drive towards grand-final redemption, the frontrowers won’t be the only Sea Eagles playing in the season-ending World Cup.

Vote of confidence


25 Sep 08 @ 05:57pm by JASON AVEDISSIAN
http://manly-daily.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/vote-of-confidence/

MANLY premiership winners are united in their belief the Sea Eagles not only deserve NRL favouritism, but are better equipped this year to go one better.

Manly have shot to premiership favourites following Storm captain Cameron Smith’s two-match ban.

But with or without the controversial hooker, it appears the Sea Eagles are brewing their own storm as they aim for their first title in 12 years.

Members of that last squad are united, believing the Sea Eagles outstanding recent form having won 12 of their past 15 outings will ensure they will make up for their grand final defeat last year.

“If they keep playing the way they are playing, I see no reason why they can’t win it,” club great Cliff Lyons said on Thursday evening.

“As long as they don’t shut up shop.

“Their defence is great and their attack is getting better.

“Melbourne are still going to be hard to beat, but Manly need to beat the Warriors before they start worrying about next week.”

Another member of the 1996 squad, prop Mark Carroll, said the time is right for the Sea Eagles to make up for last year’s devastating loss to Melbourne.

“Everything is falling into place for them,” he said.

“You have to be in one to win one and with another year under their belt, they will be better for the experience of last year.

“But, they’ve got to beat the Warriors first.”

Premiership-winning winger Craig Hancock said Manly deserve favouritism.

“This time last year it had to be Melbourne, but now, Manly deserve to be favourites,” he said.

“They have their best chance this year to win with or without Smith playing. When we lost the grand final in ‘95, we were heaps better off the year after.”

“They won’t be over-awed.”
 
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MSH

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Manly for sure. They've been primed all season for this, 2nd last year is just burning inside them, they want to go one better. Too much class, Manly win by 10 or so Saturday evening.
 

LeagueNut

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Am i correct in saying if Manly win this game they will be wearing the home jersey for the grand final??
1) I thought it went on table seedings, regardless of who wins or loses throughout the finals

2) Your question is irrelevant anyway :cool:
 

Garts

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1) I thought it went on table seedings, regardless of who wins or loses throughout the finals

2) Your question is irrelevant anyway :cool:

1. That does not make sense when you consider the Roosters finished 4th yet played you at home when you finished 8th. However who knows what the NRL does sometimes, nothing would surprise me.
 

Rovelli

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Less than 24 hours away from this game. Should be another cracker. Should be some pro-Warrior fans and some anti-Manly ones, plus Manly's mob.
 
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