18th club, whose next?

[AlwaysGreen]

Back in the real world nrl v afl cash revenue from tv for the next 5 years, give or take the odd mill


2023 $355.5mill v $403mill
2024 $362.5mill v $403mill
2025 $370mil v $519mill
2026 $377.4mill v $529mill
2027 $385mill v $539.2mill

Stay on topic please. Although I know afl is your favourite topic.

 

[Perth Red]

Stay on topic please. Although I know afl is your favourite topic.

You might want a word with iamback, he’s the one who keeps bringing up afl tv deals lol

 

[The Great Dane]

Yes even when I typed that I knew it was a bit of hyperbole but I couldn`t be arsed changing it. Having said that ` far right ` is of course a relative term and at heart characters like Dutton, Abbot, and some of those other christian ratbags in the Liberal Party would have some pretty extremist values which they would love to see implemented but know it would be political suicide in this day and age.

That can be said of members of any political party or faction, and frankly, the Albanese's government has no leg to stand on in the trying to force extremist views on the majority department.

 

[Pneuma]

well he we go again. nrl v gfl.

This blokes obsession with afl is vomit worthy mate.

 

[Pneuma]

Stay on topic please. Although I know afl is your favourite topic.

He’s Gil’s number one fan boy. Derails every thread with his adoration of afl.

 

[Iamback]

You might want a word with iamback, he’s the one who keeps bringing up afl tv deals lol

No that is dickheads like you, Making these BS claims with no facts to make NRL look bad.

I merely adding facts to show NRL is actually going well in that regard too

 

[MugaB]

Australia: “But they are all dark skinned and live on islands. Arent they all the same?”

Isn't that what you pommy blokes said when you landed on botany bay?
Cant be throwing stones


Back to the topic ...AFLs tv rights and their expansion into QLD... oh wait

 

[Colk]

No people are looking at the $4.5m over 7 years in isolation and comparing it to the Current NRL
Cash Deal and come up with the NRL deal being a dud.

That $4.5m broken up looks very different though and to look for that is going to leave plenty of people on here dissppointed.

Taking the NRL on their word that this year is $400m cash.

The next TV deal will run to 2032. You are looking at a 30% increase on that to cover inflation.

You are looking at $520m cash. Throw in Contra and you are looking at $550m. Many on here would say $550m next deal is a decent deal?

$550m is a lot better than $400m or slightly above. That’s the comparison.

The NRL made a bad decision to lock in a long term extension during a pandemic. That’s all it comes down to.

Anyway we agree to disagree and we should get back to the topic of expansion which is a hell of a lot more exciting.

I’m hoping that after we get this Pasifika idea out of the way - which looks like it is going to happen - we do the Perth and NZ 2 thing next.

 

[Iamback]

$550m is a lot better than $400m or slightly above. That’s the comparison.

The NRL made a bad decision to lock in a long term extension during a pandemic. That’s all it comes down to.

Anyway we agree to disagree and we should get back to the topic of expansion which is a hell of a lot more exciting.

I’m hoping that after we get this Pasifika idea out of the way - which looks like it is going to happen - we do the Perth and NZ 2 thing next.

That $550m isn't on 2023 figures though. We had a rare occurrence where the next deal was agreed upon BEFORE a current deal had even commenced.

That future deal was not only done 2 years in advance of when it usually would, It was also longer then the usual 5 year period.

A 5 year deal would come with a 15% increase due to inflation.

So wouldn't a deal that is almost twice as long have double the increase? On current figures

Cricket got an increase that is basically inflation, AFL similar both waited outside of covid so no guarantee it gets better.

We wouldn't be expanding if the deal wasn't locked in though, So this conversation is further along from getting a deal done

 

[Vibing]

I’m hoping that after we get this Pasifika idea out of the way - which looks like it is going to happen - we do the Perth and NZ 2 thing next.

And we really need to put it where the idea belongs , in the bin.
A PNG side or a Pasifika side or a mish mash of both , tied to the Bears or what ever is just folly
The NRL may have stoked the fire for click bate but they have no intention of doing anything in that dept

Its
Perth
NZ2
Brisbane 3 & all should be in by the start of 2033.

Polynesain & Melonesian players can play for those 3 clubs & the other 17

 

[Vibing]

That $550m isn't on 2023 figures though. We had a rare occurrence where the next deal was agreed upon BEFORE a current deal had even commenced.

That future deal was not only done 2 years in advance of when it usually would, It was also longer then the usual 5 year period.

A 5 year deal would come with a 15% increase due to inflation.

So wouldn't a deal that is almost twice as long have double the increase? On current figures

Cricket got an increase that is basically inflation, AFL similar both waited outside of covid so no guarantee it gets better.

We wouldn't be expanding if the deal wasn't locked in though, So this conversation is further along from getting a deal done

the average cash deal is
550 mill to 400 mill in

25/26/ & 2027
so they're comparable

now off to the TV media rights deal with this before the mods intervene

 

[Pneuma]

the average cash deal is
550 mill to 400 mill in

25/26/ & 2027
so they're comparable

now off to the TV media rights deal with this before the mods intervene

This has been off topic for so long it’s hard to know what the topic is anymore

 

[Vibing]

This has been off topic for so long it’s hard to know what the topic is anymore

yea
that will be my last reference to the off topic , topic in here.

 

[jim_57]

Australia: “But they are all dark skinned and live on islands. Arent they all the same?”

If population is a problem with Tonga & Samoa maybe they can throw in the Phillipines to offset it.

 

[Ideas Man Stephen]

There is much to read here for a newbie, but my thoughts on expansion are pretty set.

I did hear one very good idea that would see the formation of a Pacific RL, similar to NSWRL and QRL. Move the Hunters and Silktails into this new comp, joined by Tongan, Samoan, Warriors reserves and NZII teams. Slim numbers, you may even conference the whole 2nd tier to include cross NSWRL/QRL/PRL fixtures. A fantastic opportunity to set a pathway for Pacific Islanders.

For the NRL, N Sydney Bears is a no as far as I am concerned. N Sydney Bears pairing with anyone for me is also a no. The only iteration I would ever consider would be as Central Coast Bears, which is far down the priority line.

I don’t really think another Brisbane/Ipswich team can be a priority either. Dolphins need to be given time to flourish. They are off to a great start, let’s hope it continues.

Perth and NZII are the two obvious next ventures. Each have their own strengths, which as it happens is also the other venture’s weak point.

Commercially, Perth has it in spades over NZII. A very parochial town, supporting the Wildcats, Scorchers, Eagles and Dockers in large numbers, the residents are also very supportive of the WA based corporates, like RAC, HBF, BankWest not to mention two multi billion dollar operations full of eastern state and kiwi ex-pats in BHP and Rio. From a corporate perspective, Perth has the potential to be an NRL commercial powerhouse to rival the biggest clubs in Sydney if they can match the administrative prowess of the Storm (2006-10 aside). But for Heaven’s sake, don’t call them the bloody Pirates though. Back to the Reds, or if the Reds must stay in the history books, something relative to the West like Perth Venom.

NZII’s biggest strength is Perth’s weakest and vice versa. Talented players are the NRL’s greatest asset and NZII would be far better equipped to produce dozens of NRL standard players over the course of 10 years, while Perth might be lucky to produce 5 NRL standard players in the same period. In a sport that is in the middle of a growth phase there needs to be a ready stream of players to keep the product at its best and NZII is overwhelmingly better prepared to deliver on this basic necessity.

Anything else, just falls way behind both of these options as far as I am concerned.

 

[Colk]

There is much to read here for a newbie, but my thoughts on expansion are pretty set.

I did hear one very good idea that would see the formation of a Pacific RL, similar to NSWRL and QRL. Move the Hunters and Silktails into this new comp, joined by Tongan, Samoan, Warriors reserves and NZII teams. Slim numbers, you may even conference the whole 2nd tier to include cross NSWRL/QRL/PRL fixtures. A fantastic opportunity to set a pathway for Pacific Islanders.

For the NRL, N Sydney Bears is a no as far as I am concerned. N Sydney Bears pairing with anyone for me is also a no. The only iteration I would ever consider would be as Central Coast Bears, which is far down the priority line.

I don’t really think another Brisbane/Ipswich team can be a priority either. Dolphins need to be given time to flourish. They are off to a great start, let’s hope it continues.

Perth and NZII are the two obvious next ventures. Each have their own strengths, which as it happens is also the other venture’s weak point.

Commercially, Perth has it in spades over NZII. A very parochial town, supporting the Wildcats, Scorchers, Eagles and Dockers in large numbers, the residents are also very supportive of the WA based corporates, like RAC, HBF, BankWest not to mention two multi billion dollar operations full of eastern state and kiwi ex-pats in BHP and Rio. From a corporate perspective, Perth has the potential to be an NRL commercial powerhouse to rival the biggest clubs in Sydney if they can match the administrative prowess of the Storm (2006-10 aside). But for Heaven’s sake, don’t call them the bloody Pirates though. Back to the Reds, or if the Reds must stay in the history books, something relative to the West like Perth Venom.

NZII’s biggest strength is Perth’s weakest and vice versa. Talented players are the NRL’s greatest asset and NZII would be far better equipped to produce dozens of NRL standard players over the course of 10 years, while Perth might be lucky to produce 5 NRL standard players in the same period. In a sport that is in the middle of a growth phase there needs to be a ready stream of players to keep the product at its best and NZII is overwhelmingly better prepared to deliver on this basic necessity.

Anything else, just falls way behind both of these options as far as I am concerned.

That’s quite a good name. Perth Venom. Pythons wouldn’t be too bad either

 

[Pneuma]

That’s quite a good name. Perth Venom. Pythons wouldn’t be too bad either

Perth Pisspots. Clearly a winner

 

[Perth Red]

That $550m isn't on 2023 figures though. We had a rare occurrence where the next deal was agreed upon BEFORE a current deal had even commenced.

That future deal was not only done 2 years in advance of when it usually would, It was also longer then the usual 5 year period.

A 5 year deal would come with a 15% increase due to inflation.

So wouldn't a deal that is almost twice as long have double the increase? On current figures

Cricket got an increase that is basically inflation, AFL similar both waited outside of covid so no guarantee it gets better.

We wouldn't be expanding if the deal wasn't locked in though, So this conversation is further along from getting a deal done

Talking afl again? Dckhead

 

[Perth Red]

If population is a problem with Tonga & Samoa maybe they can throw in the Phillipines to offset it.

Hawaii is an island in the pacific, does that mean we are in fact entering a usa team Into the nrl? Is this Vlandys college football pathway dream?

 

[Perth Red]

There is much to read here for a newbie, but my thoughts on expansion are pretty set.

I did hear one very good idea that would see the formation of a Pacific RL, similar to NSWRL and QRL. Move the Hunters and Silktails into this new comp, joined by Tongan, Samoan, Warriors reserves and NZII teams. Slim numbers, you may even conference the whole 2nd tier to include cross NSWRL/QRL/PRL fixtures. A fantastic opportunity to set a pathway for Pacific Islanders.

For the NRL, N Sydney Bears is a no as far as I am concerned. N Sydney Bears pairing with anyone for me is also a no. The only iteration I would ever consider would be as Central Coast Bears, which is far down the priority line.

I don’t really think another Brisbane/Ipswich team can be a priority either. Dolphins need to be given time to flourish. They are off to a great start, let’s hope it continues.

Perth and NZII are the two obvious next ventures. Each have their own strengths, which as it happens is also the other venture’s weak point.

Commercially, Perth has it in spades over NZII. A very parochial town, supporting the Wildcats, Scorchers, Eagles and Dockers in large numbers, the residents are also very supportive of the WA based corporates, like RAC, HBF, BankWest not to mention two multi billion dollar operations full of eastern state and kiwi ex-pats in BHP and Rio. From a corporate perspective, Perth has the potential to be an NRL commercial powerhouse to rival the biggest clubs in Sydney if they can match the administrative prowess of the Storm (2006-10 aside). But for Heaven’s sake, don’t call them the bloody Pirates though. Back to the Reds, or if the Reds must stay in the history books, something relative to the West like Perth Venom.

NZII’s biggest strength is Perth’s weakest and vice versa. Talented players are the NRL’s greatest asset and NZII would be far better equipped to produce dozens of NRL standard players over the course of 10 years, while Perth might be lucky to produce 5 NRL standard players in the same period. In a sport that is in the middle of a growth phase there needs to be a ready stream of players to keep the product at its best and NZII is overwhelmingly better prepared to deliver on this basic necessity.

Anything else, just falls way behind both of these options as far as I am concerned.

Welcome to the conversation. All good points, except pirates name. I like the name and it is a very marketable brand. Also WA had Australia’s only official pirate.

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