18th club, whose next?

[Vibing]

How is it irrelevant? Your average includes contra too btw

NRL is $400m cash in 2023
The next AFL deal on 2023 figures is $430m - Take out contra and the deals are on par.

hence why inflation counts.

The 2028 NRL TV will cover inflation for 2032 also. Which will make it look higher than it is in reality too.

next excuse
contra LOL

the average over the 7 years is 550 mill , up from their previous average of 366 mill
thats the increase I'm talking about here
thats actually a 50% increase , not 45.... no new teams , same length of broadcast etc ... 9 extra games

Our average went from 380 to ( something north of 400 maybe up to 450 mill )
so an increase of between 6% & 18%
for an extra team in our 2nd biggest market & 12 extra games

polish that turd all you want
thems the facts

PVL
fix it....

 

[Wb1234]

I’m pretty confident too. The key will be getting competitive tension which considering our ratings we should be getting.

Let @Perth Red handle the negotiations

 

[Pneuma]

Let @Perth Red handle the negotiations

Aaaaaarrggghhh!

 

[Wb1234]

next excuse
contra LOL

the average over the 7 years is 550 mill , up from their previous average of 366 mill
thats the increase I'm talking about here
thats actually a 50% increase , not 45.... no new teams , same length of broadcast etc ... 9 extra games

Our average went from 380 to ( something north of 400 maybe up to 450 mill )
so an increase of between 6% & 18%
for an extra team in our 2nd biggest market & 12 extra games

polish that turd all you want
thems the facts

PVL
fix it....

Your mostly right

the one thing I disagree with you on is afl isn’t getting 643 million as a tv deal

it’s heavily padded with Telstra contra and the true tv cash deal is 500 to 550 million (max)

if afl is 500 million cash and we are at 400 million cash it’s not a huge gap

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Omg afl talk again.

 

[Vibing]

Your mostly right

the one thing I disagree with you on is afl isn’t getting 643 million as a tv deal

it’s heavily padded with Telstra contra and the true tv cash deal is 500 to 550 million (max)

if afl is 500 million cash and we are at 400 million cash it’s not a huge gap

I didn't include Telstra nor used 643 mill as the figure .
& I don't care how much contra is in theirs if we also got a 50% increase heavily padded with contra as well

the AFL is at 550 mill cash PA, a generally agreed amount ( 700 mill of their deal is fluff)
we're at as little as 380 cash & up to 400 mill
we have fallen waaaaayyyyyy behind , after only just being behind in 2022

 

[Wb1234]

I didn't include Telstra nor used 643 mill as the figure .
& I don't care how much contra is in theirs if we also got a 50% increase heavily padded with contra as well

the AFL is at 550 mill cash PA, a generally agreed amount ( 700 mill of their deal is fluff)
we're at as little as 380 cash & up to 400 mill
we have fallen waaaaayyyyyy behind , after only just being behind in 2022

That is their new deal with extra content

it needs to be matched against our next tv with extra content

we should get more than 550 million for vlandys to be doing a good job

 

[Perth Red]

We need more content, the two missing capital cities, competitive tension and Vlandys no where near the negotiations. Then we might match them for revenue one day.

 

[Iamback]

The problem with the relevance argument is that you are applying inflation on the upcoming fumbles deal to make it look worse and not applying it to the current NRL deal, in essence to make it look better. It’s completely disingenuous.

Your counter argument against the fumbles deal going up by 30 odd percent and the difference between the two deals by 2025 onwards being massive when it wasn’t before, is that inflation will swallow up their deal (it won’t but anyway). That’s fine to make that argument against the fumbles but you have to apply that argument to the NRL deal if you want to make it relevant. By 2027, inflation at 3% will well and truly cover any increase (which was minimal) and relatively the game would be going backwards.

Face it. However you want to spin it, the current NRL deal is a dud. Hence why we are talking about expansion and bringing in more content. If they thought it was a good deal then we wouldn’t be talking about it. They know themselves that it is a dud

No people are looking at the $4.5m over 7 years in isolation and comparing it to the Current NRL
Cash Deal and come up with the NRL deal being a dud.

That $4.5m broken up looks very different though and to look for that is going to leave plenty of people on here dissppointed.

Taking the NRL on their word that this year is $400m cash.

The next TV deal will run to 2032. You are looking at a 30% increase on that to cover inflation.

You are looking at $520m cash. Throw in Contra and you are looking at $550m. Many on here would say $550m next deal is a decent deal?

 

[Iamback]

Your mostly right

the one thing I disagree with you on is afl isn’t getting 643 million as a tv deal

it’s heavily padded with Telstra contra and the true tv cash deal is 500 to 550 million (max)

if afl is 500 million cash and we are at 400 million cash it’s not a huge gap

The intial presser Gill said just over $4b cash.

Take Telstra cash of that, There is the TV cash amount

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Back on topic.

Weipa Walruses.

 

[Pneuma]

Back on topic.

Weipa Walruses.

Fair cop. The bloody tv deal is infesting every thread. Clearly the 18th team is the Hobart Honchos.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

It seems nobody thinks New Zealand is in the Pacific...

It’s more in the pacific than PNG is. Papuans don’t really consider themselves Pacific Islanders, with the possible exception of the ones from Bougainville, and they don’t consider themselves Papuan.
Lumping PNG, Fiji, Tonga, Samoa and the Cook Islands all together is more than a little insulting. Might as well call it the “poor brown people” team.

 

[jim_57]

It’s more in the pacific than PNG is. Papuans don’t really consider themselves Pacific Islanders, with the possible exception of the ones from Bougainville, and they don’t consider themselves Papuan.
Lumping PNG, Fiji, Tonga, Samoa and the Cook Islands all together is more than a little insulting. Might as well call it the “poor brown people” team.

I doubt a “Pacifika” side is what PNG envisioned when they went public with their own government backed bid last year. Since then they’ve had 4 other countries pinned on to their bid by outsiders with a generic label slapped on it.

Fiji, Tonga, Samoa & Cook Islands don’t need to have direct NRL representation to follow & play the game. PNG obviously don’t either but they at least have the population to maybe one day sustain a team.

 

[docbrown]

Let @Perth Red handle the negotiations

"Get this pommy c*** away from us before he bores us to death! We'll pay you anything you want!"

- Rupert Murdoch

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

"Get this pommy c*** away from us before he bores us to death! We'll pay you anything you want!"

- Rupert Murdoch

Rupert Murdoch hates rugby league. Fumbleball is his "preferred" game.

 

[Pneuma]

"Get this pommy c*** away from us before he bores us to death! We'll pay you anything you want!"

- Rupert Murdoch

And every other person who has met him

 

[Perth Red]

No people are looking at the $4.5m over 7 years in isolation and comparing it to the Current NRL
Cash Deal and come up with the NRL deal being a dud.

That $4.5m broken up looks very different though and to look for that is going to leave plenty of people on here dissppointed.

Taking the NRL on their word that this year is $400m cash.

The next TV deal will run to 2032. You are looking at a 30% increase on that to cover inflation.

You are looking at $520m cash. Throw in Contra and you are looking at $550m. Many on here would say $550m next deal is a decent deal?

Back in the real world nrl v afl cash revenue from tv for the next 5 years, give or take the odd mill


2023 $355.5mill v $403mill
2024 $362.5mill v $403mill
2025 $370mil v $519mill
2026 $377.4mill v $529mill
2027 $385mill v $539.2mill

 

[Perth Red]

I doubt a “Pacifika” side is what PNG envisioned when they went public with their own government backed bid last year. Since then they’ve had 4 other countries pinned on to their bid by outsiders with a generic label slapped on it.

Fiji, Tonga, Samoa & Cook Islands don’t need to have direct NRL representation to follow & play the game. PNG obviously don’t either but they at least have the population to maybe one day sustain a team.

Australia: “But they are all dark skinned and live on islands. Arent they all the same?”

 

[ground zero]

Back in the real world nrl v afl cash revenue from tv for the next 5 years, give or take the odd mill


2023 $355.5mill v $403mill
2024 $362.5mill v $403mill
2025 $370mil v $519mill
2026 $377.4mill v $529mill
2027 $385mill v $539.2mill

well he we go again. nrl v gfl.