18th club, whose next?

[Wb1234]

Swans have a lot of bandwagon fans who will watch them in a grand final and then desert them the rest of the time.

Even worse for the swans around 30 percent of their average crowds are scg trust members who get in for free

 

[Ideas Man Stephen]

The FFRXIII are behind the bid.

Hopefully it is accepted by the QRL.

I’m not sure whether that helps or hinders the bid haha

 

[MugaB]

Will their be a pride jersey?
you can’t see the irony of calling the most homophobic team in the comp that name Lol?

Your bad jokes aren't linking up well, calling cairns qrl "northern pride" a gay team due to a few blacktown boys who aren't progressive is a pretty long bow... although Pacific islanders might feel that way in sydney, the general island folk aren't too fussed about it, and papuans and folk from FNQ won't give two shits, as again a lion is a great moniker or mascot...

 

[docbrown]

We can do both, Perfh and NZ2, but it will all be for naught, if we dont have the player stock to give these teams enough talent or lead tine to get thar talent, remember these aren't areas that league is a heartland, like the dolphins inclusion was...
Both are able to produce results... its why im a believer of the pasific bid coming in first bolstering that player pool, then adding important markets

Then take the $25 million a year the government is offering and use it to scout and recruit players from PNG and the Pacific to clubs and add them outside of the existing salary cap. It does the exact same thing without the need for creating a Pacifika team.

 

[MugaB]

Then take the $25 million a year the government is offering and use it to scout and recruit players from PNG and the Pacific to clubs and add them outside of the existing salary cap. It does the exact same thing without the need for creating a Pacifika team.

They aint paying for a team of recruiting scouts, the government is paying for an NRL team, you don't give them that, that money doesn't exist period

 

[Iamback]

What does everyone think of this idea for Pacific pathway? The part I really like is that it does offer high quality player pathway opportunities for local residents that should see RL take an even bigger stranglehold on the region. There is plenty of talk about improving political connections/relations in the Pacific and it shouldn’t be outside the realms of opportunity to source both Aus and US government funding support for this idea.

It also gives local opportunity at a relevant standard. I just don’t see an NRL club being based out of any pacific island (bar NZ). The financial resources are simply not there.

Ideally NRL bring in a National Reserve grade comp and it can be used as a feeder into that.

Not sure the standard in that is good enough for the Warriors reserve grade guys though

 

[docbrown]

They aint paying for a team of recruiting scouts, the government is paying for an NRL team, you don't give them that, that money doesn't exist period

Some money would be for scouts. Most would go to players. Then that goes to show that it’s not about player development at all, which is what your argument was. It’s just an exercise in foreign diplomacy.

 

[Wb1234]

Then take the $25 million a year the government is offering and use it to scout and recruit players from PNG and the Pacific to clubs and add them outside of the existing salary cap. It does the exact same thing without the need for creating a Pacifika team.

Albanese isn’t offering 25 million for that

it’s only for an nrl team

 

[Wb1234]

They aint paying for a team of recruiting scouts, the government is paying for an NRL team, you don't give them that, that money doesn't exist period

Beat me to it

 

[MugaB]

Some money would be for scouts. Most would go to players. Then that goes to show that it’s not about player development at all, which is what your argument was. It’s just an exercise in foreign diplomacy.

Thats right, but your confusing what the NRL want versus what the govt want

Nrl want players, thats why its a pasifika team..
Govt want an NRL team, for the PNG region,

why its based in the Cairn location is moreso to avoid the traps of the 3rd world issues,

 

[Iamback]

They aint paying for a team of recruiting scouts, the government is paying for an NRL team, you don't give them that, that money doesn't exist period

Correct.

The government pays it knowing that it gets facilities upgraded.

PNG came to look around Penrith's setup. Out West the remote academies are done out of Universities.

Assuming that is followed here, That improves atleast 1 university locally. The could then feed into scholarships for younger players.
Which brings up the Education and standard of living across the board.

Just dumping money at players doesn't have the same impact

 

[Wb1234]

Some money would be for scouts. Most would go to players. Then that goes to show that it’s not about player development at all, which is what your argument was. It’s just an exercise in foreign diplomacy.

Png want an nrl team I suspect the foreign diplomacy line is largely bs too and albanese is doing this partly as a league fan and partly to help png

 

[docbrown]

Albanese isn’t offering 25 million for that

it’s only for an nrl team

I know that. But the argument was made that the point of the Pacifika team was for improving player development. But if the government isn’t willing to literally fund scouts and player recruitment, then it’s not for that at all. It’s solely for foreign public relations.

 

[Wb1234]

I know that. But the argument was made that the point of the Pacifika team was for improving player development. But if the government isn’t willing to literally fund scouts and player recruitment, then it’s not for that at all. It’s solely for foreign public relations.

Lmao

you don’t think a team with 40 million a year in funding won’t be able to afford scouts or being a huge boost for junior development in a nation where our sport is number one

best way to produce juniors is an nrl club

 

[Bukowski]

Thats right, but your confusing what the NRL want versus what the govt want

Nrl want players, thats why its a pasifika team..
Govt want an NRL team, for the PNG region,

why its based in the Cairn location is moreso to avoid the traps of the 3rd world issues,

Do they govt want it based on Cairns?

 

[MugaB]

Png want an nrl team I suspect the foreign diplomacy line is largely bs too and albanese is doing this partly as a league fan and partly to help png

Who cares why, if it gets across the line, we'll have another Queensland based as the 18th team and not have to fork out for it, just need to set up all these pathways and logistics to get an acedemy up and running in Cairns

 

[Bukowski]

Lmao

you don’t think a team with 40 million a year in funding won’t be able to afford scouts or being a huge boost for junior development in a nation where our sport is number one

best way to produce juniors is an nrl club

Based in Cairns. Lol

 

[Wb1234]

Who cares why, if it gets across the line, we'll have another Queensland based as the 18th team and not have to fork out for it, just need to set up all these pathways and logistics to get an acedemy up and running in Cairns

Can’t see them doing much in cairns tbh as it treads on the cowboys toes

I still expect huge resistance from the cowboys too

 

[docbrown]

Thats right, but your confusing what the NRL want versus what the govt want

Nrl want players, thats why its a pasifika team..
Govt want an NRL team, for the PNG region,

why its based in the Cairn location is moreso to avoid the traps of the 3rd world issues,

Great. That’s my point. So we agree that the government doesn’t care about player development, it’s about politics.

The NRL should ask themselves very seriously is this something they want to be involved in. Because anything political always has some kind of consequences.

 

[MugaB]

Do they govt want it based on Cairns?

Id say they could live with that better, knowing a 1st grade side could attract marquee players easier there than PNG, and a neutral base for a pasific team, makes it safer in terms of factions between all these islands... but realistically all this is pandering anyways, its just about direct pathways into that team..
Getting a bellamy or another experienced coach would be easier to move them to Cairns than any of the other islands or NZ...
and nz having pasifika moana works for union, but not for league, its taken the warriors ages to get a good coach to stay, imagine getting one for png or nz2