18th club, whose next?

[Perth Red]

I think you're being a little optimistic about the quantity and quality of players hanging around to join the nrl.

I dont often get called optimistic on here so thanks lol

maybe but we don’t actually need a lot. We need 30 per new club at any one time.

im more concerned for perth about where we get our first few seasons players from than ten years later, by then we’ll have pathways in place in wa and beyond.

 

[Colk]

I dont often get called optimistic on here so thanks lol

maybe but we don’t actually need a lot. We need 30 per new club at any one time.

I think it’s a challenge but I don’t think it is the biggest. We will need to attract more players from outside the competition at least in the short to medium term whilst investing way more in development

 

[Iamback]

How can we develop better pathways without an nrl club? What do you mean by “better pathways”?

How many schools play RL?

Why couldn't an SG Ball side run again? Hell you could even do a side in a NSWRL or QRL cup.

Just running a local A grade 6 or 7 levels under NRL isn't junior development

 

[Iamback]

Maybe you don’t watch SL or didnt watch st Helen’s in the pre season? You could build 2-3 competitive nrl teams from SL.
we saw what happened to raiders when they brought just 4 in.

If we want to go to 20 clubs then nrl is going to need to invest in more and new pathways and SL will become a prime recruitment ground.

How many how come over here and failed though? Pinning the hopes on the hit and miss of the ESL is hardly a sound plan

 

[Ideas Man Stephen]

I dont often get called optimistic on here so thanks lol

maybe but we don’t actually need a lot. We need 30 per new club at any one time.

im more concerned for perth about where we get our first few seasons players from than ten years later, by then we’ll have pathways in place in wa and beyond.

I wouldn’t be concerned about that. Strewth, Dolphins started this year, how many in their squad of 30 are former Redcliffe juniors or academy?

I have always been an advocate that there is plenty enough talent to run a 20 team NRL comp. Clubs just need to look for it in places they normally don’t.

 

[MugaB]

How many schools play RL?

Why couldn't an SG Ball side run again? Hell you could even do a side in a NSWRL or QRL cup.

Just running a local A grade 6 or 7 levels under NRL isn't junior development

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[Iamback]

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But you don't get it. Those juniors suddenly become good if they have a NRL team

 

[Perth Red]

How many schools play RL?

Why couldn't an SG Ball side run again? Hell you could even do a side in a NSWRL or QRL cup.

Just running a local A grade 6 or 7 levels under NRL isn't junior development

We have 8 in our shs scholarship program. Same as all of nz

the nrlwa has had its funding cut and the move to u19’s straight after covid has been a big issue apparently for us,
when I asked sackson he stated say they are putting their energies in the elite rep model for perth that the arlc is pushing which takes the best kids at different ages and outs them into advanced programs in a regions model. so we have 3 region rep sides for perth fed by 12 clubs.

you’re showing you’re ignorance in that last statement.

 

[Perth Red]

How many how come over here and failed though? Pinning the hopes on the hit and miss of the ESL is hardly a sound plan

fewer fail than make it.
It’s not all hope, it should be part of a bigger plan and that forms part of it. There’s a ton of talent in uk and France if you look for it,

 

[Perth Red]

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The pirates team operated on probably a 1/4 the funding those sides had and unless you develop for 15 onwards it’s always going to be a tough battle. Also we tended to be playing 16/17 year olds to other clubs 18 year olds. our best 17 year olds were being signed and moving east.

afl have committed $12mill a year for a decade to increasing participation and supporting elite pathways in tassie if they get club. Thats how you solve the problem.

when arlc forced out the WARL in 2012 they should have developed a strat plan for WA then. Ten years on and there’s still nothing happening here in any really serious way. So rugba league.

This was the wARL vision before the nrl fcked it up by taking over the state bodies and leaving them to wither away.

https://nrlwa.com.au/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2012/06/WARL-2020-Vision-Strategic-Plan.pdf

 

[MugaB]

But you don't get it. Those juniors suddenly become good if they have a NRL team

Waqa Blake was good in the panthers system, now plod at Parramatta and on his way out

 

[AlwaysGreen]

fewer fail than make it.
It’s not all hope, it should be part of a bigger plan and that forms part of it. There’s a ton of talent in uk and France if you look for it,

Don't you think people have already looked for it? You can't just create NRL footballers just by looking for it and throwing money at it.

 

[Wb1234]

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Damning stats

 

[Colk]

But you don't get it. Those juniors suddenly become good if they have a NRL team

It is like any argument though. It is all a little more nuanced - like anything you actually have to put money and time in to invest in it.

Don't you think people have already looked for it? You can't just create NRL footballers just by looking for it and throwing money at it.

Are you backing rugby league scouts though? Some clubs are just run poorly and are just incapable of finding talent

 

[Iamback]

It is like any argument though. It is all a little more nuanced - like anything you actually have to put money and time in to invest in it.



Are you backing rugby league scouts though? Some clubs are just run poorly and are just incapable of finding talent

Some clubs are but who is getting missed currently?

You need people in new areas

 

[Perth Red]

Don't you think people have already looked for it? You can't just create NRL footballers just by looking for it and throwing money at it.

No I dpnt, I think the nrl clubs are generally lazy. I doubt any of them have scouts in WA let alone the uk or france looking at the best u20’s.

raiders have formed a partnership with south perth but that’s the only nrl link up to wa I’ve heard of.

 

[Colk]

Some clubs are but who is getting missed currently?

You need people in new areas

That’s exactly the point. I think it’s a chicken -egg argument. You can’t whinge about the fact that we are only producing players from QLD-NSW and not do anything to change that.

Yes it takes time, effort and money but that’s the only way to solve the supposed problem.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

No I dpnt, I think the nrl clubs are generally lazy. I doubt any of them have scouts in WA let alone the uk or france looking at the best u20’s.

raiders have formed a partnership with south perth but that’s the only nrl link up to wa I’ve heard of.

That's because the best under 20s in those locations aren't up to nrl standard.

 

[Wb1234]

No I dpnt, I think the nrl clubs are generally lazy. I doubt any of them have scouts in WA let alone the uk or france looking at the best u20’s.

raiders have formed a partnership with south perth but that’s the only nrl link up to wa I’ve heard of.

Or png

just go watch the panthers juniors and make them offers

 

[Perth Red]

That's because the best under 20s in those locations aren't up to nrl standard.

Don’t disagree, but that is down to funding and opportunity. It’s not like genetically jnr rl players in wa are somehow different to jnr rl players elsewhere.