18th club, whose next?

[Perth Red]

the sellout origin crowds in Melbourne, Adelaide & Perth say hi moron lol

it’s a major event, of course it will sell out, doh,
. And like I said there’s rl fans in those cities, but the nrl as a completion is largely insignificant as there is no footprint in them.

 

[Pippen94]

Imagine an Ipswich Jets team in the NSWRL that had Allan Langer and the Walters brothers!

Well what about a recent Logan team with Cam Smith, Israel..?!

 

[Perth Red]

we can
try harder

Found it, now can you point to the section that backs up your claim?

Sports Industry AU

What happens off the field in Australian Sport

www.footyindustry.com

 

[Pippen94]

All that becomes insignificant once perth and/or Adelaide gets another team regardless if the Nrl props them up ala storm, BUT in saying that, for leagues sake, it needs to be not only viable, needs to survive without a handout... regardless of grants.. needs to have juniors and participation at a continuous rate, not a fake ass ALF pay for your balls and kits garbage, its like pushing drugs out to kids the way they are promoting their game....
It has to be ingrained and wanted by those cities otherwise why bother.. the only exception is Melbourne due to the amount of 1st grade ALF clubs operating there.. idealy you want it there too, but realistically get what you can with 5 mil pop in foreign territory

That sport basically doubled up on cities because it had nowhere else to grow. NRL has Adelaide & Perth to move into..

 

[Pippen94]

Canberra has a population of 440K 2021 census too
the area with Queanbeyan , & other towns in the palerang shire .. Jerrabomberra , Royala & Googong Sutton & Bungendore bring the population to 500K

Canberra & Queanbeyan is one continuous urban area..

 

[Perth Red]

That sport basically doubled up on cities because it had nowhere else to grow. NRL has Adelaide & Perth to move into..

Nrl has lots of places it COULD move into, if it ever will is a different matter. Meanwhile afl is exactly where it wants to be already ( though it would probably like one of its struggling melbourne teams in tassie). Hence why we are at best 30. Years behind them with our metro footprint. The equivalent would be an nrl club in perth, two clubs in melbourne and a club in adelaide by now! We’ve only just decided on two clubs in brisbane Ffs.

 

[Pippen94]

North Sydney Bears to Gold Coast. Merge with Burleigh Bears and become the Gold Coast Bears.

Balmain Tigers to Brisbane. Merge with Easts Tigers to become the Brisbane Tigers.

Newtown Jets to Ipswich. Merge with Ipswich Jets to become the Ipswich Jets.

South magpies provided backbone of raiders. Dragons with Smith as coach brought in many Brothers players. North Sydney bears were stacked with Qld players in the 90's...

 

[Pippen94]

Nrl has lots of places it COULD move into, if it ever will is a different matter. Meanwhile afl is exactly where it wants to be already ( though it would probably like one of its struggling melbourne teams in tassie). Hence why we are at best 30. Years behind them with our metro footprint. The equivalent would be an nrl club in perth, two clubs in melbourne and a club in adelaide by now! We’ve only just decided on two clubs in brisbane Ffs.

No, only need a team from Adelaide & Perth for the set. NRL has NZ & all the main regional centres

 

[Pippen94]

Newcastle Hunter Valley Population 600 000 thousand.

620,000 figure is from 2011. I would guess 800k is closer to mark today. Places like Raymond Terrace, Maitland etc are basically to Newcastle like sprawling suburbs of Sydney.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Well what about a recent Logan team with Cam Smith, Israel..?!

Don't forget the legendary Antonio Winterstein.

 

[AdelaideSharky]

North Sydney Bears to Gold Coast. Merge with Burleigh Bears and become the Gold Coast Bears.

Balmain Tigers to Brisbane. Merge with Easts Tigers to become the Brisbane Tigers.

Newtown Jets to Ipswich. Merge with Ipswich Jets to become the Ipswich Jets.

Gold Coast struggles to support one team let alone two.

Easts Tigers already changed their name to Brisbane plus Wests Tigers already have the Tigers name.

 

[xe_kilroy]

sorry for the rant.....

I remember before the Storm existed, talking with family/friends in Melbourne, they were so full of hatred for RL, the majority of Melbourne. And before that, when the Swans came to Sydney, Sydneysiders hating AR. So much hatred between the two states for the opposing state's code.

Anyway, years later...the Storm were created, and Melbournians were still against RL. But over time, I noticed, little by little they started appreciating RL, choosing the Storm as their team, obviously, even attending some games sometimes.

Fast forward to the last 2-3 years, there's a far greater "love" for RL and the Storm, they are so disenfranchised with AFL, the play on the field, the administration, referring, etc....people turning away from it and adopting RL and the NFL as their #1 sport.....but even those diehard AFL fans now carry the Storm as their #2 sporting team, go to their games or watch them on TV when their AFL team isn't in town or plays on another day.

And the same has occurred in Sydney....people adopting the Swans (god help them) and making it their #2 team after their NRL team, going to Swans games as well as their NRL team game.

Point is....I refuse to believe it's all pointless. Change can happen, does happen, people will adopt a WA and SA rugby league team if you put one in each and financially prop it up long enough (20-30 years) a generation basically, kids growing up that's all they know now....there being a WA / SA RL team for them too, part of the sporting culture.

Also, I reckon after all those lockdowns and social distancing rules.....people are more than ever eager to get out and about, go to games, movies, pubs, more than they were just a few years before COVID. Not taking life for granted anymore, could all change again.

 

[xe_kilroy]

Just saying that the war is real, and the pie chart will change based on how the football codes improve or don't improve themselves over time. RL can't be negative and think it's pointless to expand to WA and SA asap. I understand, the money invested for the return...why bother sinking millions every year over 20-30 years for minimal gains, we have the dominant population in QLD/NSW. But the sooner they put a team in each state, the sooner that 20-30 yrs can reach that point of adoption.....even to just take the fight to the AFL and try to dent their progress in NSW, ACT and QLD.

Like I proposed many times in here before.....you can at the very least be smart and schedule 4-6 games in Perth and 4-6 games in Adelaide every year. Each Sydney team moves one of their home games to Perth and one home game to Adelaide. 6 or so NSW teams each playing 2 games in WA/SA ends up being about 8-12 games played there. Just keep doing that for a sustained period of time (a decade?) in lieu of eventually granting them a fulltime NRL team -- either a startup team or relocated Sydney team.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Gold Coast struggles to support one team let alone two.

Easts Tigers already changed their name to Brisbane plus Wests Tigers already have the Tigers name.

Try to keep up.

I was responding to a post about NSWRL clubs relocating to Brisbane during the 1980s. I highlighted the Bears, Jets and Tigers as three brands that could have relocated to Gold Coast, Brisbane and Ipswich.

 

[GowersDallyM]

Perth ran that 9s torny and it was abit of a flop as they were expecting alot more attendance. I've been to games in Adelaide and that 9s comp in Perth and Adelaide seems to have a bigger following of Leauge fans...Perth is way more into AFL so at least Adelaide you'd get afew fans jump on board and the flights ain't as far...with Covid around Perth just shuts he boarder whenever so it would cause some havoc.

I'd have a team in Adelaide but PNG would get the biggest following or a second NZ team.

 

[The Great Dane]

AFL like soccer , is a girly sport thats easy to play , unlike rough mean rugby league & thats why mummies are getting their kids to play it & its the only reason . But still with the 2 new clubs a decade after their inception & a GF & multiple finals appearances for one of them , no one watches them live or on TV. The Swans & Lions still only have niche followings after 35 years with both often outrated by cartoons & cooking shows on TV in Sydney & Brisbane.
Rugby League was the dominant sport in NSW in 1982 when the swans moved to Sydney. Nothing has changed except theres a few more kids running around in basketball singlets & tight shorts who were most likely never going to play RL anyway.
I heard the chicken littles back 40 years ago , oh oh .. aussie rules will take over in
5
10
15
20 years

here we are 40 years later & , its no closer

“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”- Bertrand Russell.

 

[baselinepanther]

“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”- Bertrand Russell.

captain " im the smartest guy in the room , infact every room " strikes again lol
cough
*wanker* ....

 

[baselinepanther]

Canberra & Queanbeyan is one continuous urban area..

but they're separated by a state border too
the area has a pop of a half mill, Canberra individually as a city/ territory has a population of 440K

 

[baselinepanther]

it’s a major event, of course it will sell out, doh,
. And like I said there’s rl fans in those cities, but the nrl as a completion is largely insignificant as there is no footprint in them.

can't be insignificant " your words" & be selling out major venues too you halfwit
the forum clown strikes again lol

 

[Vee]

Is Aussie rules booming at rugby’s expense?

The academies at the Swans and Giants are pumping out locally bred AFL stars. They’re also helping to foster a living, breathing footy culture in parts of Sydney that are traditionally rugby union heartlands.

www.theage.com.au

TBF, that's from The Age and was probably written by the GWS marketing/media manager.