18th club, whose next?

[Perth Red]

Wow nrl clubs really are funded so much better than the fumblers and that’s before we discuss team sizes

where has the afl spent all that extra money it’s received over the last two decades ?

with the dolphins already bigger than the lions it really doesn’t look good for afl in qld

Funnily you and others were telling us how big an impact on lions fans brisbane2 would have. Doesn’t look like it,

Not sure where you get that from, this year nrl club funding will be around $290mill, afl will be around $350mill and theirs will go up again on 2025 when the media riches start flowing,

what have they spent the money on? A $500mill asset, national expansion, Massive grassroots funding, massive player funding, a significant digital media arm, ample funding to clubs to ensure they are all viable and so it goes on. Just think what the nrl could look like by now with an extra $2billion!

it’s taken us 25 years Ffs just to get second Brisbane club back!

hopefully one day we will have perth, Adelaide, a second melbourne club and a third Brisbane club, then we might close that massive revenue gap, one day!

 

[Pippen94]

There's a $300mill revenue gap with AFL (nearly $2billion in last decade difference), that will grow significantly over the next 5 years. Thats largely because we sht the bed in 1998 and abandoned the ARL's metro growth strategy and retreated back to two states with a smattering of interest elsewhere. Regions are nice to have but metro is where the money is.

NRL clubs are getting $17mil a year, thats only $9mil a year less than the AFL expansion teams that need propping up (which out of interest still manage to generate more football club revenue than most heartland NRL clubs). I'd take proper national expansion, an extra $40mill a year price tag on that and an extra $300mill a year revenue into the game wouldn't you?

Who has said TV deal gap is result of coverage of capital cities?!

 

[Pippen94]

Funnily you and others were telling us how big an impact on lions fans brisbane2 would have. Doesn’t look like it,

Not sure where you get that from, this year nrl club funding will be around $290mill, afl will be around $350mill and theirs will go up again on 2025 when the media riches start flowing,

what have they spent the money on? A $500mill asset, national expansion, Massive grassroots funding, massive player funding, a significant digital media arm, ample funding to clubs to ensure they are all viable and so it goes on. Just think what the nrl could look like by now with an extra $2billion!

it’s taken us 25 years Ffs just to get second Brisbane club back!

hopefully one day we will have perth, Adelaide, a second melbourne club and a third Brisbane club, one day!

Third Brisbane will be soon

 

[Perth Red]

Third Brisbane will be soon

Tik tok

 

[Pippen94]

Tik tok

U have a tik tok now?!

 

[Perth Red]

U have a tik tok now?!

No, that’s Wb lol

 

[MugaB]

Tik tok

Thats as good an answer or reply as potato...
Infact its PRs version of potato

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Very good point... main population centres in Aus & NZ shows RL in a very dominant position without a 'dots on the map' strategy:

1. Sydney - RL dominant
2. Melbourne - AFL dominant
3. Brisbane - RL dominant
4. Perth - AFL dominant
5. Auckland - RL dominant over AFL (not the dominant sport)
6. Adelaide - AFL dominant
7. Gold Coast - RL dominant
8. Newcastle - RL dominant
9. Canberra - RL dominant
10 Sunshine Coast - RL dominant

The 5 capital city model for TV ratings is a dying way of measuring and will soon be out the window as soon as streaming becomes common place in the not too distant future. Streaming only cares about views no matter where they come from and the fact is that 53% of the population lives in NSW and QLD and we have a solid presence in NZ's most populous city also. Add to that the nation's capital and a nice little niche in Melbourne and we are doing just fine.

The better news? We won't flush millions down the toilet on expansion sides that no one wants and our expansion (that is only just really taking off) will also bring in huge revenue growth without the wasted expenses. We have Perth, SEQ 3 and PNG banging on the door to get in. Good times ahead.

The Swans earn more revenue from football operations than every Sydney NRL clubs.

Lions are too far behind the Broncos.

The Broncos dwarf everyone in the NRL, but they are a fair way behind the West Coast Eagles and largest Melbourne clubs.

Our game will trail theirs until our clubs can match on them on revenue from football operations. To do that will need bigger crowds and double or triple our membership numbers. Appealing to more demographics will garner more money from sponsorship and corporate hospitality.

If we continue to rely almost solely on broadcast revenue then we'll always be at the mercy of the broadcasters. They don't have our best interest at heart and prefer fumbleball.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Funnily you and others were telling us how big an impact on lions fans brisbane2 would have. Doesn’t look like it,

Not sure where you get that from, this year nrl club funding will be around $290mill, afl will be around $350mill and theirs will go up again on 2025 when the media riches start flowing,

what have they spent the money on? A $500mill asset, national expansion, Massive grassroots funding, massive player funding, a significant digital media arm, ample funding to clubs to ensure they are all viable and so it goes on. Just think what the nrl could look like by now with an extra $2billion!

it’s taken us 25 years Ffs just to get second Brisbane club back!

hopefully one day we will have perth, Adelaide, a second melbourne club and a third Brisbane club, then we might close that massive revenue gap, one day!

I'd rather see a second Perth club and leave the Storm to represent all of Victoria. Melbourne City FC have struggled. Soccer is bigger than rugby league in Melbourne. Having two teams in Perth opens up the 6pm Sunday night AEST time slot every week. Surely that's got to be worth something to Foxtel. Melbourne 2 doesn't offer anything to the broadcasters.

 

[Wb1234]

Funnily you and others were telling us how big an impact on lions fans brisbane2 would have. Doesn’t look like it,

Not sure where you get that from, this year nrl club funding will be around $290mill, afl will be around $350mill and theirs will go up again on 2025 when the media riches start flowing,

what have they spent the money on? A $500mill asset, national expansion, Massive grassroots funding, massive player funding, a significant digital media arm, ample funding to clubs to ensure they are all viable and so it goes on. Just think what the nrl could look like by now with an extra $2billion!

it’s taken us 25 years Ffs just to get second Brisbane club back!

hopefully one day we will have perth, Adelaide, a second melbourne club and a third Brisbane club, then we might close that massive revenue gap, one day!

Weak ass National competition that gets flogged by the nrl with less games and teams

we are now at a point where like union, afl is irrelevant to the nrl. The last ten years is where it’s failed with the giants and the suns absolute basket cases and the lions not far off it

afl also is saddled with debts so both codes net asset position is similar

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Don't give the afl fan an opportunity to rant about his sport. Its very boring.

 

[Wb1234]

Don't give the afl fan an opportunity to rant about his sport. Its very boring.

I’ve been waiting 20 years to crap over afl so humour me lol

 

[Pippen94]

The Swans earn more revenue from football operations than every Sydney NRL clubs.

Lions are too far behind the Broncos.

The Broncos dwarf everyone in the NRL, but they are a fair way behind the West Coast Eagles and largest Melbourne clubs.

Our game will trail theirs until our clubs can match on them on revenue from football operations. To do that will need bigger crowds and double or triple our membership numbers. Appealing to more demographics will garner more money from sponsorship and corporate hospitality.

If we continue to rely almost solely on broadcast revenue then we'll always be at the mercy of the broadcasters. They don't have our best interest at heart and prefer fumbleball.

Sponsorship & broadcast money accounts for most revenue for top sporting teams around world

 

[Centy Coast]

I'd rather see a second Perth club and leave the Storm to represent all of Victoria. Melbourne City FC have struggled. Soccer is bigger than rugby league in Melbourne. Having two teams in Perth opens up the 6pm Sunday night AEST time slot every week. Surely that's got to be worth something to Foxtel. Melbourne 2 doesn't offer anything to the broadcasters.

Let’s just see how one team goes first, their last attempt only lasted three years but News Ltd had other ideas. I honestly can’t see States like Melbourne, Perth or even Adelaide ever having more than one team, it would be suicide.

 

[flippikat]

I'd rather see a second Perth club and leave the Storm to represent all of Victoria. Melbourne City FC have struggled. Soccer is bigger than rugby league in Melbourne. Having two teams in Perth opens up the 6pm Sunday night AEST time slot every week. Surely that's got to be worth something to Foxtel. Melbourne 2 doesn't offer anything to the broadcasters.

Spot on about timeslots - 2 teams in Perth and 2 teams in NZ would see the 6pm Sydney time on Sunday (mostly Perth home games) & 6pm Sydney time on Friday (mostly NZ home games) well covered-off.

Sure it'd be crazy to expect WA & NZ teams to do those timeslots every week, but you could get creative for those timeslots for Sydney teams - either playing 6pm Friday against lower pulling out-of-town clubs, or scheduling a Sunday double-header (4pm and 6pm) at a Sydney venue - especially if the following Monday is a holiday.

 

[Perth Red]

Who has said TV deal gap is result of coverage of capital cities?!

Nick politis, and anyone on here who tries to justify why afl always earns more money than us lol 90% of media advertising spend is in the 5 metro markets, it’s not rocket science.

 

[Perth Red]

Weak ass National competition that gets flogged by the nrl with less games and teams

we are now at a point where like union, afl is irrelevant to the nrl. The last ten years is where it’s failed with the giants and the suns absolute basket cases and the lions not far off it

afl also is saddled with debts so both codes net asset position is similar

$945mill v $585mill revenue last year. $2billion over those 10 years revenue difference.
$198mill v $314mill net asset base.
You keep telling yourself that and letting Vlandys whisper in your ear about how great things are going to be when he produces these things up his sleeve. Apparently Vegas will help lol

 

[Wb1234]

$945mill v $585mill revenue last year. $2billion over those 10 years revenue difference.
$198mill v $314mill net asset base.
You keep telling yourself that and letting Vlandys whisper in your ear about how great things are going to be when he produces these things up his sleeve. Apparently Vegas will help lol

Nothing wrong with afl being second now

they had a good crack for 20 years to be number one

18 nrl teams vs 19 afl teams is no contest

 

[Pippen94]

Nick politis, and anyone on here who tries to justify why afl always earns more money than us lol 90% of media advertising spend is in the 5 metro markets, it’s not rocket science.

Show me where nick politics said afl earn more because of that?!

 

[Perth Red]

Show me where nick politics said afl earn more because of that?!

Haha he literally said if nrl wants to match afl it needs clubs in the 5 metro markets

“If we want to compete with the AFL, we have to be truly national and be representative in every state.”