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18th club, whose next?

MugaB

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Just over 12 months ago we had seven Manly players boycott an NRL game over a pride jersey because it infringed upon their religious beliefs.


The last thing the NRL can afford to do is alienate the Polynesian and Melanesian community. Around two-fifths of players are of Polynesian and Melanesian origin. They're devoutly Christian.

Forcing a PNG/Pasifika team to wear a pride jersey in Port Moresby would not be wise. In 1994 an angry mob swarmed to the airport at Port Moresby because a Papuan was reported to not be up to ARL standard. It forced the Cowboys officials who were about to arrive for a promotional tour to abandon it out of concerns for their safety.
Fmd the angry mob in 1994 again, are you on fkn repeat??? Did you ever think it was coz the cowboys are a bunch of white hick farmers?

Btw have the NRL pushed this agenda with pride round since? This season hasnt seen a drop of it
 
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Fmd the angry mob in 1994 again, are you on fkn repeat??? Did you ever think it was coz the cowboys are a bunch of white hick farmers?

Btw have the NRL pushed this agenda with pride round since? This season hasnt seen a drop of it

Are you going to blame these violent riots -- one of which turned deadly -- on the Cowboys?


 

The Great Dane

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Crowd violence in or around the ground would be a serious concern in PNG. I'd go so far as to say that it wouldn't be a matter of if but when, and how bad.

I mean it's already happening to a degree-
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...on-state-of-origin-broadcasts-due-to-killings

https://www.news.com.au/sport/sport...a/news-story/f959c952ed67283278c122d9f19da6c8


It's like mass shootings in America, it's such a common event that it barely makes the news anymore. They just accept spates of violence during SOO as an inevitability.
 
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MugaB

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Are you going to blame these violent riots -- one of which turned deadly -- on the Cowboys?


Alright, im gonna say yes

If you didnt go there, doesnt happen? Just like the sound of the trees falling in the woods
 

Centy Coast

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Crowd violence in or around the ground would be a serious concern in PNG. I'd go so far as to say that it wouldn't be a matter of if but when, and how bad.

I mean it's already happening to a degree-
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...on-state-of-origin-broadcasts-due-to-killings

https://www.news.com.au/sport/sport...a/news-story/f959c952ed67283278c122d9f19da6c8


It's like mass shootings in America, it's such a common event that it barely makes the news anymore. They just accept spates of violence during SOO as an inevitability.
I’ve 100% heard about stabbings over there over arguments about Rugby League lol, imagine opposition fans travelling over there to watch their team play a NRL PNG side ?.
Good luck with that.
 

Centy Coast

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The Dolphins new 2024 jersey that they will wear in Friday nights game against the Cowboys is one similar to what I can imagine a Perth NRL team would look like (yellow instead of gold) be it the Bears, Pirates or Quokkas.
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Wb1234

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Crowd violence in or around the ground would be a serious concern in PNG. I'd go so far as to say that it wouldn't be a matter of if but when, and how bad.

I mean it's already happening to a degree-
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...on-state-of-origin-broadcasts-due-to-killings

https://www.news.com.au/sport/sport...a/news-story/f959c952ed67283278c122d9f19da6c8


It's like mass shootings in America, it's such a common event that it barely makes the news anymore. They just accept spates of violence during SOO as an inevitability.
Png hunters says hello
 
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I’ve 100% heard about stabbings over there over arguments about Rugby League lol, imagine opposition fans travelling over there to watch their team play a NRL PNG side ?.
Good luck with that.

Imagine what would happen if a PNG team lost a game due to a controversial call?

If it happened in Port Moresby there's a good chance of a riot at the stadium. If it happened in Australia then there would be an angry mob waiting for the referee when he travels to Port Moresby.

It went to Kougari Oval to see the Hunters play the Seagulls in 2013. Extra security was flown in from PNG to keep the Papuans in the crowd in line.
 

MugaB

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Imagine what would happen if a PNG team lost a game due to a controversial call?

If it happened in Port Moresby there's a good chance of a riot at the stadium. If it happened in Australia then there would be an angry mob waiting for the referee when he travels to Port Moresby.

It went to Kougari Oval to see the Hunters play the Seagulls in 2013. Extra security was flown in from PNG to keep the Papuans in the crowd in line.
Wow great story... is there another one from 1994 you'd like to share about angry mobs in wynuum manly
 

MugaB

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Are you saying png is now much safer than in 1994?

Nope... just want the record to keep repeating, post after post...
There's crime in lots in places, the hunters exist and yet qcup doesn't seem to have an issue now with how their games are secured, if anything the NZ security at grounds are worse, how many streakers do they get? Anyone of them could have had an opportunity to attack, i get that PNG is a 3rd world country, but whats the harm in giving them hope... if they f**k it up its on them to be better if there is a next time
 

Perth Red

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Nope... just want the record to keep repeating, post after post...
There's crime in lots in places, the hunters exist and yet qcup doesn't seem to have an issue now with how their games are secured, if anything the NZ security at grounds are worse, how many streakers do they get? Anyone of them could have had an opportunity to attack, i get that PNG is a 3rd world country, but whats the harm in giving them hope... if they f**k it up its on them to be better if there is a next time
Tbf they are number 2 in the world, that’s some achievement!

id love for the nrl to have the vision and the resources to be building to a png admission, it would take years, maybe even decades but the journey should start now. Having a sustainable and viable png club in the nrl would be an incredible achievement. Sadly I just don’t see our leadership having that level of vision or commitment.
 
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How two prime ministers made sure the PNG Hunters' long-awaited homecoming would take place
By Pacific Islands sport reporter Ali Almond
Posted Fri 26 Aug 2022 at 4:25pm


The game was on, then it was off.

Then, two prime ministers got involved and now it is on again.

For a brief moment, a round of semi-professional rugby league became a diplomatic schism.

Inside the last 48 hours, the PNG Hunters' Queensland Cup opponent, the Mackay Cutters, had refused to travel to Papua New Guinea.

The Queensland Rugby League (QRL) threatened to kick the Cutters out of state competitions, before Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese got involved and the club backflipped.

Thousands of tickets have been sold for Saturday's match in Port Moresby — thousands more than any Queensland Cup match on Australian soil.

Fans and players' families will be travelling from all over PNG to see the Hunters' first match at home in two-and-a-half years.

It will also be the final round of the Queensland Cup season and the Hunters' last chance to host a match.

If the Cutters had pulled out, it would have been a severe blow to the Hunters, who were twice supposed to go home to PNG during the past three weeks, before finally getting the green light for this weekend.

The QRL canned the previous applications for home matches due to recent political unrest in PNG.

"I'm really pleased that the Cutters have changed their mind about playing this weekend … we've been working tirelessly with the QRL over the last few months to bring the Hunters home," PNG Hunters chief executive Scott Barker said.

The Hunters had to relocate to the Gold Coast last year because of COVID-19 travel restrictions.

The young squad have been away from their homes and families for long periods but feel the sacrifice is worth it for national pride.

Most of the current players have never represented the Hunters on home soil.

They have not experienced running out to a roaring stadium full of their fellow Papua New Guineans in the prized Hunters jersey.

Queensland Cup crowds in Australia may reach as high as 1,000 spectators. In Port Moresby, it can be upwards of 10,000.

Papua New Guineans are quasi-religious about footy and it is the only country in the world where rugby league is considered to be the national sport.

Cutters' concerns about player safety

It is easy to see where the Cutters were coming from when they announced they would not travel to PNG.

The team will finish the season towards the bottom of the Queensland Cup ladder and have nothing to gain visiting PNG other than an enjoying an 'in-country' experience.

The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) advises travellers to PNG to "reconsider" their need to travel and it was deemed too high a risk by the QRL less than two weeks ago.

The Cutters cited player safety as the reason why they did not want to travel to PNG, despite the QRL finally giving clearance "based on an extensive independent risk assessment prior to giving approval for the game to proceed".

Mr Albanese got wind of the situation, telling the ABC he spoke to PNG Prime Minster James Marape, who offered "a message of personal support" for the match to proceed.

"It would be such a disappointment if this game doesn't go ahead and I see no reason why it can't," Mr Albanese said.

When the ABC asked if he thought it was safe for the Cutters to travel to Port Moresby for the match, Mr Albanese answered: "Yes it is."

After the Cutters met last night for a crisis meeting, chief executive Mitch Cook explained the club's initial stance.

"We're playing rugby league in a state-wide competition and we're not thinking politically," he told the ABC.

Politics and footy

The inclusion of the Hunters in the QRL has always been political.

From their entry into the competition back in 2015, Mr Marape has always been involved, issuing announcements about the team, giving ceremonial welcomes and goodbyes, and offering support as a fan.

The Australian government funds the Hunters through DFAT and its PacificAus Sports program, which has doubled its efforts to engage Pacific neighbours as China continues to flex its diplomatic muscle.

It was only last month at the Pacific Islands Forum that Mr Albanese gave public "in-principle support" to Mr Marape to back PNG's NRL bid.






After the Cutters met last night for a crisis meeting, chief executive Mitch Cook explained the club's initial stance.

"We're playing rugby league in a state-wide competition and we're not thinking politically," he told the ABC.

Politics and footy
The inclusion of the Hunters in the QRL has always been political.

From their entry into the competition back in 2015, Mr Marape has always been involved, issuing announcements about the team, giving ceremonial welcomes and goodbyes, and offering support as a fan.

The Australian government funds the Hunters through DFAT and its PacificAus Sports program, which has doubled its efforts to engage Pacific neighbours as China continues to flex its diplomatic muscle.

It was only last month at the Pacific Islands Forum that Mr Albanese gave public "in-principle support" to Mr Marape to back PNG's NRL bid.

When the ABC asked if he thought it was safe for the Cutters to travel to Port Moresby for the match, Mr Albanese answered: "Yes it is."

After the Cutters met last night for a crisis meeting, chief executive Mitch Cook explained the club's initial stance.

"We're playing rugby league in a state-wide competition and we're not thinking politically," he told the ABC.

Politics and footy
The inclusion of the Hunters in the QRL has always been political.

From their entry into the competition back in 2015, Mr Marape has always been involved, issuing announcements about the team, giving ceremonial welcomes and goodbyes, and offering support as a fan.

The Australian government funds the Hunters through DFAT and its PacificAus Sports program, which has doubled its efforts to engage Pacific neighbours as China continues to flex its diplomatic muscle.

It was only last month at the Pacific Islands Forum that Mr Albanese gave public "in-principle support" to Mr Marape to back PNG's NRL bid.

The Hunters have always been a part of the long-held dream for PNG to field a side in the NRL.

It would have been an uncomfortable situation if the Cutters did not go to Port Moresby this weekend.

It may have called into question the future viability of the Queensland Cup holding matches in PNG.

There may have also been consideration for a move towards the less-than-ideal situation Fiji's Kaiviti Silktails have in their NSW Rugby League competition, where they do not go home to Fiji at all.

It is likely the QRL will remind all its Queensland Cup teams that before COVID-19 they were happily playing in Port Moresby every couple of weeks.

Behind the administrative roller coaster is a team of young men who just want to get home and play the game they love.

All parties involved need this weekend to end on a high note with an entertaining showing of rugby league, knowing two prime ministers might be watching.

Posted 26 Aug 2022


Can PNG assure us this will never happen again?

No, it cannot.
 

mikail-eagle

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Imagine what would happen if a PNG team lost a game due to a controversial call?

If it happened in Port Moresby there's a good chance of a riot at the stadium. If it happened in Australia then there would be an angry mob waiting for the referee when he travels to Port Moresby.

It went to Kougari Oval to see the Hunters play the Seagulls in 2013. Extra security was flown in from PNG to keep the Papuans in the crowd in line.

The Hunters did not exist in 2013.
 

mikail-eagle

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How two prime ministers made sure the PNG Hunters' long-awaited homecoming would take place
By Pacific Islands sport reporter Ali Almond
Posted Fri 26 Aug 2022 at 4:25pm
The game was on, then it was off.​
Then, two prime ministers got involved and now it is on again.​
For a brief moment, a round of semi-professional rugby league became a diplomatic schism.​
Inside the last 48 hours, the PNG Hunters' Queensland Cup opponent, the Mackay Cutters, had refused to travel to Papua New Guinea.​
Cutters' concerns about player safety
It is easy to see where the Cutters were coming from when they announced they would not travel to PNG.​
Posted 26 Aug 2022

Can PNG assure us this will never happen again?

No, it cannot.

The Cutters still came and I went to the game.
Nothing happened to them. There was a big crowd there to welcome them and their players enjoyed it and even did a lap of honour around the stadium after the game.
 
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The Cutters still came and I went to the game.
Nothing happened to them. There was a big crowd there to welcome them and their players enjoyed it and even did a lap of honour around the stadium after the game.
Here's a report of fans taking machetes to a Prime Minister's XIII vs PNG game and rioting outside the stadium.

 

MugaB

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How two prime ministers made sure the PNG Hunters' long-awaited homecoming would take place
By Pacific Islands sport reporter Ali Almond
Posted Fri 26 Aug 2022 at 4:25pm
The game was on, then it was off.​
Then, two prime ministers got involved and now it is on again.​
For a brief moment, a round of semi-professional rugby league became a diplomatic schism.​
Inside the last 48 hours, the PNG Hunters' Queensland Cup opponent, the Mackay Cutters, had refused to travel to Papua New Guinea.​
The Queensland Rugby League (QRL) threatened to kick the Cutters out of state competitions, before Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese got involved and the club backflipped.​
Thousands of tickets have been sold for Saturday's match in Port Moresby — thousands more than any Queensland Cup match on Australian soil.​
Fans and players' families will be travelling from all over PNG to see the Hunters' first match at home in two-and-a-half years.​
It will also be the final round of the Queensland Cup season and the Hunters' last chance to host a match.​
If the Cutters had pulled out, it would have been a severe blow to the Hunters, who were twice supposed to go home to PNG during the past three weeks, before finally getting the green light for this weekend.​
The QRL canned the previous applications for home matches due to recent political unrest in PNG.​
"I'm really pleased that the Cutters have changed their mind about playing this weekend … we've been working tirelessly with the QRL over the last few months to bring the Hunters home," PNG Hunters chief executive Scott Barker said.​
The Hunters had to relocate to the Gold Coast last year because of COVID-19 travel restrictions.​
The young squad have been away from their homes and families for long periods but feel the sacrifice is worth it for national pride.​
Most of the current players have never represented the Hunters on home soil.​
They have not experienced running out to a roaring stadium full of their fellow Papua New Guineans in the prized Hunters jersey.​
Queensland Cup crowds in Australia may reach as high as 1,000 spectators. In Port Moresby, it can be upwards of 10,000.​
Papua New Guineans are quasi-religious about footy and it is the only country in the world where rugby league is considered to be the national sport.​
Cutters' concerns about player safety
It is easy to see where the Cutters were coming from when they announced they would not travel to PNG.​
The team will finish the season towards the bottom of the Queensland Cup ladder and have nothing to gain visiting PNG other than an enjoying an 'in-country' experience.​
The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) advises travellers to PNG to "reconsider" their need to travel and it was deemed too high a risk by the QRL less than two weeks ago.​
The Cutters cited player safety as the reason why they did not want to travel to PNG, despite the QRL finally giving clearance "based on an extensive independent risk assessment prior to giving approval for the game to proceed".​
Mr Albanese got wind of the situation, telling the ABC he spoke to PNG Prime Minster James Marape, who offered "a message of personal support" for the match to proceed.​
"It would be such a disappointment if this game doesn't go ahead and I see no reason why it can't," Mr Albanese said.​
When the ABC asked if he thought it was safe for the Cutters to travel to Port Moresby for the match, Mr Albanese answered: "Yes it is."​
After the Cutters met last night for a crisis meeting, chief executive Mitch Cook explained the club's initial stance.​
"We're playing rugby league in a state-wide competition and we're not thinking politically," he told the ABC.​
Politics and footy
The inclusion of the Hunters in the QRL has always been political.​
From their entry into the competition back in 2015, Mr Marape has always been involved, issuing announcements about the team, giving ceremonial welcomes and goodbyes, and offering support as a fan.​
The Australian government funds the Hunters through DFAT and its PacificAus Sports program, which has doubled its efforts to engage Pacific neighbours as China continues to flex its diplomatic muscle.​
It was only last month at the Pacific Islands Forum that Mr Albanese gave public "in-principle support" to Mr Marape to back PNG's NRL bid.​
After the Cutters met last night for a crisis meeting, chief executive Mitch Cook explained the club's initial stance.​
"We're playing rugby league in a state-wide competition and we're not thinking politically," he told the ABC.​
Politics and footy​
The inclusion of the Hunters in the QRL has always been political.​
From their entry into the competition back in 2015, Mr Marape has always been involved, issuing announcements about the team, giving ceremonial welcomes and goodbyes, and offering support as a fan.​
The Australian government funds the Hunters through DFAT and its PacificAus Sports program, which has doubled its efforts to engage Pacific neighbours as China continues to flex its diplomatic muscle.​
It was only last month at the Pacific Islands Forum that Mr Albanese gave public "in-principle support" to Mr Marape to back PNG's NRL bid.​
When the ABC asked if he thought it was safe for the Cutters to travel to Port Moresby for the match, Mr Albanese answered: "Yes it is."​
After the Cutters met last night for a crisis meeting, chief executive Mitch Cook explained the club's initial stance.​
"We're playing rugby league in a state-wide competition and we're not thinking politically," he told the ABC.​
Politics and footy​
The inclusion of the Hunters in the QRL has always been political.​
From their entry into the competition back in 2015, Mr Marape has always been involved, issuing announcements about the team, giving ceremonial welcomes and goodbyes, and offering support as a fan.​
The Australian government funds the Hunters through DFAT and its PacificAus Sports program, which has doubled its efforts to engage Pacific neighbours as China continues to flex its diplomatic muscle.​
It was only last month at the Pacific Islands Forum that Mr Albanese gave public "in-principle support" to Mr Marape to back PNG's NRL bid.​
The Hunters have always been a part of the long-held dream for PNG to field a side in the NRL.​
It would have been an uncomfortable situation if the Cutters did not go to Port Moresby this weekend.​
It may have called into question the future viability of the Queensland Cup holding matches in PNG.​
There may have also been consideration for a move towards the less-than-ideal situation Fiji's Kaiviti Silktails have in their NSW Rugby League competition, where they do not go home to Fiji at all.​
It is likely the QRL will remind all its Queensland Cup teams that before COVID-19 they were happily playing in Port Moresby every couple of weeks.​
Behind the administrative roller coaster is a team of young men who just want to get home and play the game they love.​
All parties involved need this weekend to end on a high note with an entertaining showing of rugby league, knowing two prime ministers might be watching.​
Posted 26 Aug 2022

Can PNG assure us this will never happen again?

No, it cannot.
Mr Albanese thinks it can, btw did they go? How many mobs, how many died? And you've cut and pasted like 3 paragraphs over and over maybe read what you post before agreeing with me hawhawhaw
 
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