18th club, whose next?

[Wb1234]

Australian Tv pays 90% of the NRL's tv revenue

Nz worth nothing to australian tv
png worth nothing to australian tv
perth worth a little bit to australian tv

it wont be a deciding factor now they already have Brisbane sewn up

You might be shocked to learn nz tv also pays the nrl for games

 

[Perth Red]

You might be shocked to learn nz tv also pays the nrl for games

not much, and unlikely any more, if that..
No spark, no competitive tension, no increase, quite possibly a decrease next deal.

Theres no NZ2 bid interest, the NRL are not talking up NZ2 as an option. NZ2 wont be team 18 and quite possibly not even if we go to 20 (dependent on PNG and Brisbane3).

We have 4 possible and 3 places. At the moment (again depending how realistic fed funding for PNG is and depending if news ltd allow Brisbane3) NZ2 would miss out.

 

[Wb1234]

not much, and unlikely any more, if that..
No spark, no competitive tension, no increase, quite possibly a decrease next deal.

Theres no NZ2 bid interest, the NRL are not talking up NZ2 as an option. NZ2 wont be team 18 and quite possibly not even if we go to 20 (dependent on PNG and Brisbane3).

We have 4 possible and 3 places. At the moment (again depending how realistic fed funding for PNG is and depending if news ltd allow Brisbane3) NZ2 would miss out.

You sound like gutterfax

talking rubbish

 

[Perth Red]

You sound like gutterfax

talking rubbish

please feel free to debate, discuss or refute any opinions I have.

SkyNZ only increased this tv deal due to Sparks competition - Fact

90% of the Tv deal is paid by Australian TV - Fact

there is no NZ2 bid interest at a time you'd think given all the hype around expansion there would be - Fact

NRL is not talking up NZ2 as an option - Fact

IF, and its a big IF, we go to 20 teams in next decade that is still only 3 places and the reality is NRL has talked up 3 of them and ignored mentioning the 4th in recent times - Fact

 

[Wb1234]

please feel free to debate, discuss or refute any opinions I have.

there is no NZ2 bid interest at a time you'd think given all the hype around expansion there would be - Fact

NRL is not talking up NZ2 as an option - Fact

IF, and its a big IF, we go to 20 teams in next decade that is still only 3 places and the reality is NRL has talked up 3 of them and ignored mentioning the 4th in recent times - Fact

What’s funny is even when you agree with me you still want to argue

I said it won’t be what broadcasters want (brisbane)

but it idiotic to ignore nz2 and their impact on nz tv rights

 

[Perth Red]

What’s funny is even when you agree with me you still want to argue

I said it won’t be what broadcasters want (brisbane)

but it idiotic to ignore nz2 and their impact on nz tv rights

There'll be no impact on NZ rights, as there is no competition. Sky NZ paid $20mill for 2 tv deals prior to this one. They upped the deal $12mill (cash increase unknown) due to Spark this time. They arent chucking another $20mill plus on top of that on the table for a second NZ club. That's delusional.

 

[Wb1234]

There'll be no impact on NZ rights, as there is no competition. Sky NZ paid $20mill for 2 tv deals prior to this one. They upped the deal $12mill (cash increase unknown) due to Spark this time. They arent chucking another $20mill plus on top of that on the table for a second NZ club. That's delusional.

Ok gutterfax

 

[BuffaloRules]

Looks like we have to add NZ media rights expert to Sydney Rugby League expert …

 

[Pneuma]

Looks like we have to add NZ media rights expert to Sydney Rugby League expert …

There isn’t anything he thinks he doesn’t know!

 

[bad boy bubby]

As this convo has twisted towards WA and TV.
Am I wrong in suggesting that a WA consortium needs to get Ch 9 on board?
My reasons being: wouldn't all Rugby League fans already be subscribed to Fox/Kayo?
So the the add-on there for pay TV would be negligible. Plus extra fans that have Fox/Kayo may already have it because of that other sport.
If they got Ch 9 behind it then the free to air component may be a real winner.
I don't know, all I know is that I lived in Perth for a few years in the early 90's and they had the Sunday game live every week on the main channel. It was great for me.

 

[blue bags]

2nd team in Penrith makes alot of sense
At the moment

 

[Perth Red]

As this convo has twisted towards WA and TV.
Am I wrong in suggesting that a WA consortium needs to get Ch 9 on board?
My reasons being: wouldn't all Rugby League fans already be subscribed to Fox/Kayo?
So the the add-on there for pay TV would be negligible. Plus extra fans that have Fox/Kayo may already have it because of that other sport.
If they got Ch 9 behind it then the free to air component may be a real winner.
I don't know, all I know is that I lived in Perth for a few years in the early 90's and they had the Sunday game live every week on the main channel. It was great for me.

I wouldnt say so. For starters it’s likely a Perth club will allow the 9th game to be a Sunday 4pm/6pm east game that will be on fox. That will likely put perth on fox most weeks. New fans to the game will need to buy fox to follow a perth club every game on tv.

most RL die hards have fox here, after SL the nrl was shown at midnight on delay on ch9, if at all. Then after 15 years they finally started showing games live buried on the digital channels. Most rl fans here will already have fox/Kayo but there’s probably 10k or so who don’t plus new fans.

but as already said tv won’t dictate where team 18 is in all likelihood.

 

[Perth Red]

Ok gutterfax

No worries pippen

 

[MugaB]

Admit what? All the players I’ve listed are in nrl squads.

Waqa is on the outer at eels, penrith paid for him to go elsewhere, now he was looking at getting a gig at RU... and i dont think they want him.
Topine is also on the outer at bulldogs due to the training load saga that was brought up this week
Kennedy cherington was just suspended for dropping someone on their head

NRLW star cops record ban after tackle that was ‘lucky’ to not result in ‘catastrophic injury’

‘Worst tackle in NRLW history’: Star’s record ban for tackle that risked ‘catastrophic injury’

www.foxsports.com.au

YAY go Perf!!!

 

[The Great Dane]

As someone who grew up in a small country town absolutely and totally disagree with this. Having two Rugby League teams from the other premier sporting competition in this country appearing in your local region is a no-brainer in kick starting not only an interest in the code but possibly even getting comp`s up off the ground, especially at kids level.
What better way for a W.A. team to introduce itself around the state by playing trial matchers in regional areas.

Tell me, how many times did you pay to attend the local team in your country town? Were you ever a paying member or the equivalent of the time? How much did you invest in merch?

In my experience 99% of the time Country RL fans answers to all these questions will be zero or near enough to it that it doesn't matter, and in reality that's the biggest issue that country football faces. Country RL fans are too busy following, and spending money on, the NRL to even notice that their lack of support for local clubs is the biggest contributing factor in country RL's slow death, and expect some outside force to be willing to come in and fix all their problems for them.

Football clubs can't survive without money, and local clubs and leagues will continue to struggle and die until a sustainable way is found to draw as much investment into them on the ground in these towns and regions as possible. The only realistic way of doing that in the vast majority of cases is finding ways to modernise and commercialise them as businesses. But that only works if people are willing to patronise those businesses, which, for multiple reasons, isn't the case ATM.

Expecting the NRL and NRL clubs to be able to take up this burden by themselves is, frankly, moronically stupid. Even if all the NRL clubs played all their games in different venues across just country NSW it still wouldn't be enough to even come close to meeting market coverage, and you'd end up exacerbating the problem you have now with it where (though you'll pretend it isn't the case) the NRL effectively becomes the equivalent of a traveling circus in these towns; the biggest deal in town for a weekend, effectively irrelevant for the rest of the year.

Forcing those country clubs to have to compete with that NRL traveling circus is just kicking them while they're down as well, as it draws even more eyes and money away from them and towards the NRL.

 

[mongoose]

Waqa is on the outer at eels, penrith paid for him to go elsewhere, now he was looking at getting a gig at RU... and i dont think thet want him.
Topine is also on the outer at bulldogs due to the training load saga that was brought up this week
Kennedy cherington was just suspended for dropping someone on their head

NRLW star cops record ban after tackle that was ‘lucky’ to not result in ‘catastrophic injury’

‘Worst tackle in NRLW history’: Star’s record ban for tackle that risked ‘catastrophic injury’

www.foxsports.com.au

YAY go Perf!!!

how many PNG players in NRL squads?

 

[Trifili13]

2nd team in Penrith makes alot of sense
At the moment

And then they can get their new stadium with multiple tenants.

 

[Wb1234]

Nrl shouldn’t be wasting huge money on towns with declining populations

what Penrith are doing it the way forward

 

[Perth Red]

Waqa is on the outer at eels, penrith paid for him to go elsewhere, now he was looking at getting a gig at RU... and i dont think thet want him.
Topine is also on the outer at bulldogs due to the training load saga that was brought up this week
Kennedy cherington was just suspended for dropping someone on their head

NRLW star cops record ban after tackle that was ‘lucky’ to not result in ‘catastrophic injury’

‘Worst tackle in NRLW history’: Star’s record ban for tackle that risked ‘catastrophic injury’

www.foxsports.com.au

YAY go Perf!!!

And?

 

[MugaB]

how many PNG players in NRL squads?

Who cares, you confusing why i troll the pro-perfer, i dont live in PNG, i live in sydney, i go for the minor premiers the panthers... i can write a long list of penrith players in the NRL, but that would probably equate to a sixth of league..