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18th club, whose next?

Wb1234

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Again rubbish, it’s like you don’t understand how development systems work!
perth will have teams at all age levels in the Sydney elite comps. The trick is getting enough kids under 16 playing the game so there is enough cream to fill those teams, be competitive and then see the cream of them make it to nrl. That’s where the arlc funding nrlwa comes in, getting more kids and schools playing the game up and down the west coast.

5-16 years old arlc job to fund nrlwa properly to get as many kids playing as possible in well run and coached clubs
16-21 years old nrl clubs job to turn the best them into professional rugby league players
Maybe you should look at the conversion rates of juniors from lower grades to nrl lmao
 

Perth Red

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A 17kmcrowd avg, in Avery good and unusual year for crowds would still be better than 5 heartland clubs could manage.
 

Jimmy Wiggle

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AFL is massive in Perth, it's part of the culture. You're not going to swing what the kids there play, they will play what thier mates play and their mates play watch and live AFL. It goes both ways and it hasn't been able to be shifted for over a hundred years.
The numbers of talent athletic juniors who aren't AFL die hards are always going to be minuscule.

A Perth team will be a drain on talent indefinitely, in no point ever would we see 30 plus NRL players who came out of Perth- never, 0 chance.

Never really going to add many eyeballs to broadcasters..

So the club has to add significant impact from a corporate point of view. Serious bucks!
Which will come and go and never be guaranteed.

Perth is a dud.
None of the WA afl clubs are made up from just locals either, so like I said, it’s going to be hard but not impossible
 

Perth Red

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Maybe you should look at the conversion rates of juniors from lower grades to nrl lmao
What are they? What are the registered u16 player numbers in each region of Sydney and brisbane? What is this mythical conversion rate of jnrs to nrl first grader please?

I keep hearing Cronulla are a strong jnr area, how many registere jnrs in cronulla region? How many annual nrl players come out of the cronulla area?
 

Gobsmacked

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Again rubbish, it’s like you don’t understand how development systems work!
perth will have teams at all age levels in the Sydney elite comps. The trick is getting enough kids under 16 playing the game so there is enough cream to fill those teams, be competitive and then see the cream of them make it to nrl. That’s where the arlc funding nrlwa comes in, getting more kids and schools playing the game up and down the west coast.

5-16 years old arlc job to fund nrlwa properly to get as many kids playing as possible in well run and coached clubs
16-21 years old nrl clubs job to turn the best them into professional rugby league players
Fantasy
Do you realise how many juniors are poured through the system to get 1 NRL player ?
Basically your saying half the kids playing AFL are going to go to league.
Dreamer.
 

Wb1234

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What are they? What are the registered u16 player numbers in each region of Sydney and brisbane? What is this mythical conversion rate of jnrs to nrl first grader please?

I keep hearing Cronulla are a strong jnr area, how many registere jnrs in cronulla region? How many annual nrl players come out of the cronulla area?
Someone needs to do some research don’t they
 

Jimmy Wiggle

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You and your WA mates have got no idea. You think a few handouts is going to produce a cascade of NRL quality players all the way up the West Coast.
Where has anyone said that. If WA can produce 5 in Nrl squads with out a local team, why wouldn’t they be able to produce 10 with a team. And once again, it will be hard but not impossible. I think if done properly, you can help talent come through, WA produces talented sports people like anywhere else in Australia, just got to make sure we get them into the NRL
 

Bukowski

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Once again, you have no clue about WA.
They get good crowds because they are very parochial. No one anywhere goes to union or A league games so why should WA be different. Crowds to the NRL won’t be a problem, there will be difficulties but not as bad as some of you lot make out.
That's another thing that only applies to Perth. Union doesn't get a crowd so league won't. How anyone can compare league to union is astounding.
I don't think he's ever left Brisbane tbh.
 

Perth Red

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AFL is massive in Perth, it's part of the culture. You're not going to swing what the kids there play, they will play what thier mates play and their mates play watch and live AFL. It goes both ways and it hasn't been able to be shifted for over a hundred years.
The numbers of talent athletic juniors who aren't AFL die hards are always going to be minuscule.

A Perth team will be a drain on talent indefinitely, in no point ever would we see 30 plus NRL players who came out of Perth- never, 0 chance.

Never really going to add many eyeballs to broadcasters..

So the club has to add significant impact from a corporate point of view. Serious bucks!
Which will come and go and never be guaranteed.

Perth is a dud.
Here’s an interesting consideration. Cronulla jnr region is often touted as one of the strongest in the country.

in 2023 CJRL had 13 clubs and 5500 registered boys and girls
in 2023 NRLWA had 24 clubs and around 3500 boys and girls registered

so you can see WA really isnt as far off in numbers as you east coasters like to think. What we lack is quality of coaches And elite pathways for the kids, wich an eventual nrl and nrlw place to aspire to. Something an nrl team will fix.
 
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Some of the mensa candidates in here make gallop look like a genius lol

for rugby league fans they don’t have much faith in our product or much understanding of how nrl clubs work!

If you're so smart, why do and your mob say expansion into Perth and Melbourne won't require the ARLC to invest extra money, then get all pissy and say the reason Melbourne Storm don't have a large pool of registered players to select from the Victorian competitions is because the ARLC haven't invested in them?

You're trying to have your cake and eat it too.

Putting professional clubs in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth won't generate talent unless the game invests heavily on competitions at the grassroots level in these cities. We know this because it's the formula the AwFuL have used in Queensland and NSW for over 30 years. They were in a better position to make inroads in Queensland and NSW because fumbleball has been played in both states since the 19th century.

There's fewer men a d boys playing rugby league in 2023 than there were in 1995.

It's insane to think it's a good idea to raid talent from the a shrinking talent pool and ship the cream of the crop to Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth.

The clubs in Queensland, NSW, Canberra and NZ won't stand for it. Neither will the QRL and NSWRL. The Melbourne Storm won't support any proposition to introduce clubs from Adelaide and Perth that will raid talent from a dwindling pool.

It's unsustainable to add professional teams in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth.
 

Perth Red

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17 jersey flegg players from Perth will translate into 17 nrl super men
It’s like you are so stupid you dont know nrl clubs are made up of home grown players from the region, players signed at younger age from other regions who go on to debut for the club and established nrl first graders who move to the club. Can you really be this thick?
 

Gobsmacked

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Here’s an interesting consideration. Cronulla jnr region is often touted as one of the strongest in the country.

in 2023 CJRL had 13 clubs and 5500 registered boys and girls
in 2023 NRLWA had 24 clubs and around 3500 boys and girls registered

so you can see WA really isnt as far off in numbers as you east coaster like to think. What we lack is quality of coaches And elite pathways for the kids, wich an eventual nrl and nrlw place to aspire to. Something an nrl team will fix.
It's a shit ton off the numbers!
You've used all of WA again a shire!
You do realise there's massive juniors in the regions?
Are we goi to include Tamworth, Mudgee, Coffs harbour....
Ffs
 

Wb1234

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It’s like you are so stupid you dont know nrl clubs are made up of home grown players from the region, players signed at younger age from other regions who go on to debut for the club and established nrl first graders who move to the club. Can you really be this thick?
Done that research yet to work out the conversion rate ?

you talking about rugby league it’s like a man in the dark fumbling around for the light switch
 

Jimmy Wiggle

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If you're so smart, why do and your mob say expansion into Perth and Melbourne won't require the ARLC to invest extra money, then get all pissy and say the reason Melbourne Storm don't have a large pool of registered players to select from the Victorian competitions is because the ARLC haven't invested in them?

You're trying to have your cake and eat it too.

Putting professional clubs in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth won't generate talent unless the game invests heavily on competitions at the grassroots level in these cities. We know this because it's the formula the AwFuL have used in Queensland and NSW for over 30 years. They were in a better position to make inroads in Queensland and NSW because fumbleball has been played in both states since the 19th century.

There's fewer men a d boys playing rugby league in 2023 than there were in 1995.

It's insane to think it's a good idea to raid talent from the a shrinking talent pool and ship the cream of the crop to Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth.

The clubs in Queensland, NSW, Canberra and NZ won't stand for it. Neither will the QRL and NSWRL. The Melbourne Storm won't support any proposition to introduce clubs from Adelaide and Perth that will raid talent from a dwindling pool.

It's unsustainable to add professional teams in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth.
If the affiliated states got a sixth of the funding the QRL and NSWRL got there would be more development happening in those 2 states. I’ve just come back from the affiliated states tournament and from what I heard, it looks like there will be an increase in funding, so then we might see some actual growth
 

Perth Red

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If you're so smart, why do and your mob say expansion into Perth and Melbourne won't require the ARLC to invest extra money, then get all pissy and say the reason Melbourne Storm don't have a large pool of registered players to select from the Victorian competitions is because the ARLC haven't invested in them?

You're trying to have your cake and eat it too.

Putting professional clubs in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth won't generate talent unless the game invests heavily on competitions at the grassroots level in these cities. We know this because it's the formula the AwFuL have used in Queensland and NSW for over 30 years. They were in a better position to make inroads in Queensland and NSW because fumbleball has been played in both states since the 19th century.

There's fewer men a d boys playing rugby league in 2023 than there were in 1995.

It's insane to think it's a good idea to raid talent from the a shrinking talent pool and ship the cream of the crop to Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth.

The clubs in Queensland, NSW, Canberra and NZ won't stand for it. Neither will the QRL and NSWRL. The Melbourne Storm won't support any proposition to introduce clubs from Adelaide and Perth that will raid talent from a dwindling pool.

It's unsustainable to add professional teams in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth.
the ARLCs mandate is to grow the game across Australia. They should be spending more than the pittance they do on jnr participation in EVERY state. My comment was in the nonsense about nrl having to give a perth nrl club more than the grant the other club are getting because 25 years ago melbourne needed it, sorry the context of the conversation went above your head.
 

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