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18th club, whose next?

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In all due respect, you have no idea about rugby league in Perth.
Do you enjoy watching NRL from a cricket field? That was 1995 attendance. Super League came in and severely affected 96 & 97 attendance.
NRL is a hell of a lot more popular than Union over here, parents put their kids in union because there is a pathway, yet we are still losing about 15 kids a year to schools over east.
I can guarantee you that if a WA team was announced now for 2026, we would double our player numbers before then.

You're clutching at straws and rewriting history.

NSWRL games at the WACA in 1989 and the early 1990s averaged more than 20k. It's why the Reds were taken seriously for expansion in 1995. When they finally got a team the interest level dropped substantially. It didn't help that they played at a cricket ground, but it's not the reason public interest dropped. The 20k crowds at the WACA for one-off games in 1989 and the early 1990s were patronised by event-goers who wanted to see something unique. Only half of them became active supporters of the Reds in 1995. Less than 9k of them stuck around for 96 and 97.

There's a cricket ground in Perth called Perth Stadium. It hosted a double header in front of 42k people.

How do you explain that?

According to you cricket grounds don't attract crowds for RL games!

Since 2005 we've had 13 games played at Perth Rectangular Stadium. The attendances for those games were not much bigger than what the Reds drew. They're also smaller than the attendances for NSWRL games that were held at the WACA. Looks like interest in the game has dropped since the early 1990s.

You're obviously passionate about WARL. I can respect that. But let's not pretend the game is bigger in Perth than it actually is.

For every person in WA playing RL, 3 are playing RU. If RL was more popular than RU then that wouldn't be the case. Blaming it on there being no NRL club is a poor excuse. People will play what they like.

Once again, you have no clue about WA.
They get good crowds because they are very parochial. No one anywhere goes to union or A league games so why should WA be different. Crowds to the NRL won’t be a problem, there will be difficulties but not as bad as some of you lot make out.

The Melbourne Victory attracted an average of 17,366 in 2019-20. An average of 7,775 attended Melbourne City games. That's 25k active soccer fans in Melbourne for 2019-20.

Guess how many went to watch the Perth Glory?

7,716


The Storm have been averaging 16k to games at Melbourne Rectangular Stadium.

Perth Scorchers and Perth Wildcats have won more BBL and NBL Championships than any other team in their respect leagues. To argue that their crowds are not influenced by team form is bullshit.
 
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You're clutching at straws and rewriting history.

NSWRL games at the WACA in 1989 and the early 1990s averaged more than 20k. It's why the Reds were taken seriously for expansion in 1995. When they finally got a team the interest level dropped substantially. It didn't help that they played at a cricket ground, but it's not the reason i terest dropped. The 20k grounds at the WACA for one-off games in 1989 and the early 1990s attracted bandwagon supporters who wanted to see something unique. Only half of them became active supporters of the Reds in 1995. Less than 9k of them stuck around for 96 and 97.

There's a cricket ground in Perth called Perth Stadium. It hosted a double header in front of 42k people.

Since 2005 we've had 13 games played at Perth Rectangular Stadium. The attendances for those games were not much bigger than what the Reds drew as smaller than the NSWRL games that were held at the WACA. Looks like interest in the game has dropped since the early 1990s.

You're obviously passionate about WARL. I can respect that. But let's not pretend the game is bigger in Perth than it actually is.

For every person in WA playing RL, 3 are playing RU. If RL was more popular than RU then that wouldn't be the case. Blaming it on there being no NRL club is a poor excuse.



The Melbourne Victory attracted an average of 17,366 in 2019-20. An average of 7,775 attended Melbourne City games. That's 25k active soccer fans in Melbourne for 2019-20.

Guess how many went to watch the Perth Glory?

7,716


The Storm have been averaging 16k to games at Melbourne Rectangular Stadium.

Perth Scorchers and Perth Wildcats have won more BBL and NBL Championships than any other team in their respect leagues. To argue that their crowds are not influenced by team form is bullshit.
Ok so by your logic of 95-97 numbers half of the 45k who went to optus this year will become die hards? Great more than enough lol
 
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Wouldn’t have needed fraction of that.
The $700k they currently get up to say $3mill a year would have been a massive game changer and we’d see a lot more wa talent coming through and all this talk of where will perth get players from diminished. Like other poster said at moment WA kids have a choice of going to union, giving it up or packing up and heading east at 16 or 17.

ps dolphins have had 75 years squillions of pokie dollars and still will be years off producing their own nrl side in a heartland area, just saying.
Redcliffe Dolphins produced the first Indigenous Australian to captain a national sporting team when pokies were illegal in Queensland. Plenty of other Origin and Test players plied their trade with the Redcliffe Dolphins over the last 70 years.
 

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keep digging i can see China
Eh? You’ve literally agreed with me. Nrl and nrlw is a pyramid, it starts at the bottom being as wide as possible, and as I’ve shown you wa and cronulla jnrs are not miles off, and gets narrower as you move into the elite systems.
For Perth our pyramid is only half way up then ends as there is no nrl club. With an nrl club the top half of the pyramid gets built and we can see the bottom half come through. It’s a great analogy thanks.
 

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Redcliffe Dolphins produced the first Indigenous Australian to captain a national sporting team when pokies were illegal in Queensland. Plenty of other Origin and Test players plied their trade with the Redcliffe Dolphins over the last 70 years.
They have, my point is they did that on just 800 or so juniors in their region. Imagine if WA had the same level of funding Redcliffe have drawn from pokies and qrl and their direct nrl pathways with 3500 jnrs!
 
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Where has anyone said that. If WA can produce 5 in Nrl squads with out a local team, why wouldn’t they be able to produce 10 with a team. And once again, it will be hard but not impossible. I think if done properly, you can help talent come through, WA produces talented sports people like anywhere else in Australia, just got to make sure we get them into the NRL

If the WARL was given assistance then it could produce more players. The problem is the QRL, NSWRL and 17 NRL clubs have a say on these matters and will vote against propping up the WARL.
 

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Eh? You’ve literally agreed with me. Nrl and nrlw is a pyramid, it starts at the bottom being as wide as possible, and as I’ve shown you wa and cronulla jnrs are not miles off, and gets narrower as you move into the elite systems.
For Perth our pyramid is only half way up then ends as there is no nrl club. With an nrl club the top half of the pyramid gets built and we can see the bottom half come through. It’s a great analogy thanks.
Gobsmacked explained it to you

to make it into Cronulla jersey fleg you have to beat thousands of other kids

to make it into Perth jersey flegg you would have to beat two other people tops

why do you think wa don’t play origin ?
 

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