18th club, whose next?

[Canard]

The irony is Adelaide (77k) generated better ratings than Perth (56k) for AwFuL.

For RL, Perth (8k) was just ahead of Adelaide (7k).

The people on here championing Perth are full of shit. They use match attendances for the Eagles, Dockers, Wildcats and Scorchers to argue that the Pirates will boost the broadcast rights (WTF?), despite the fact Western Australia doesn't generate good TV ratings. They ignore the fact the Wildcats and Scorchers are well supported because they're as successful as the Storm. The likelihood of the Pirates being dominant like the Storm, Scorchers and Wildcats over 20 years is close to zero per cent. The other point they ignore is the Scorchers and Wildcats aren't competing against the Eagles and Dockers. The Glory and Force are better indicators of what the Pirates can expect to achieve.

Why are you only cherry picking 2023 TV ratings?

I doubt the Scorchers have been mentioned more then 3 times in this 1500 post thread.

 

[mongoose]

Hahhaa what a weak argument

it’s not being divided by the png population

it’s focussed on the png nrl team and developing rugby league in schools and similar

if the nrl added easts tigers over Perth they would add more value to the comp on every metric

crowds tv ratings membership juniors finances etc

i was talking about GDP's, you literally said add another 600 million to PNG as if it would make a difference

 

[Wb1234]

i was talking about GDP's, you literally said add another 600 million to PNG as if it would make a difference

gdp per capita is irrelevant when the govt is giving them 600 million hence my post

they have 17 million people most can’t fit in their ground

the ones that do will have high income per capita

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

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you just said non QLD team's average 98k in Brisbane, that's only 28k less than the Dolphins. So Perth would have to make up 28k ratings on 9....not out of the question. Of course this isn't taking into account Kayo/fox ratings...

but if we were just interested in getting more ratings in existing markets, why not just bring back the North Sydney bears? they would rate like crazy in Sydney, more than any QLD team.

NRL games in Perth draw just 8k viewers.

There's little chance of a Perth-based team getting 28k in their market when the successful Storm only get 31k in Melbourne.

It's highly unlikely that a Perth-based NRL team will play more than a few games on FTA. If they're brought in for the Sun 6pm AEST game then they'll never host a game on Ch9. Playing home games on a Sunday would rule out playing on a Thursday because little be a four day turnaround. There's no way they'll get many away games on a Friday night when better drawing teams like the Broncos, Storm, Rabbitohs, Cowboys, Eels, Roosters and Panthers are available.

The North Sydney Bears won't draw any more in Sydney than the other Sydney teams.

Perth Red reckons anyone who watches RL in Perth already has Kayo. If that's the case then the Pirates won't do anything for Ch9.

When the Dolphins play its usually against a Sydney team. That helps Ch9 generate better ratings in Brisbane and Sydney. If Ch9 air Perth vs Dolphins then the ratings in Sydney will be shit. Running Perth vs a Sydney team will f**k the ratings in Brisbane.

 

[Bukowski]

Thanks for successfully arguing for the NRL to have a presence in WA to increase its exposure and TV ratings, like the AFL has done on QLD

He makes a good point.

 

[Bukowski]

Why are you only cherry picking 2023 TV ratings?

I doubt the Scorchers have been mentioned more then 3 times in this 1500 post thread.

He was the dickhead who brought the Scorchers into the thread. Apparently they play in front of small crowds at the WACA, supporting his argument that AFL is the only sport in town.
When i pointed out they averaged 38k at Optus......well, the scorchers crowds are irrelevant. He had a similar argument with the Perth heat in the NBL. Of course the Perth heat play baseball, not basketball so he back tracked on that too.

 

[mongoose]

When the Dolphins play its usually against a Sydney team. That helps Ch9 generate better ratings in Brisbane and Sydney. If Ch9 air Perth vs Dolphins then the ratings in Sydney will be shit. Running Perth vs a Sydney team will f**k the ratings in Brisbane.

but it will increase the ratings in Perth and like I said, there's a good chance that it will be brand new viewers to the sport and brand new ptv subscribers. Another Brisbane team isn't bringing any new eyeballs to the game.

 

[Wb1234]

but it will increase the ratings in Perth and like I said, there's a good chance that it will be brand new viewers to the sport and brand new ptv subscribers. Another Brisbane team isn't bringing any new eyeballs to the game.

How

most people who watch league in Perth will already have fox or kayo

how many new tv viewers? 10 or 20k ?

 

[Bukowski]

but it will increase the ratings in Perth and like I said, there's a good chance that it will be brand new viewers to the sport and brand new ptv subscribers. Another Brisbane team isn't bringing any new eyeballs to the game.

Oh you want to grow the game? What a weird idea.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

but it will increase the ratings in Perth and like I said, there's a good chance that it will be brand new viewers to the sport and brand new ptv subscribers. Another Brisbane team isn't bringing any new eyeballs to the game.

How many people from Perth will tune in to watch the Pirates on 9Gem?

It's delusional to think it'll be more than 30k.

In all likelihood it'll be about 20k. Possibly 25k if the club goes well on the field. If it's a basketcase then it could be as low as 15k.

It's insane to squander a licence for 15-25k viewers in Perth. The same team will generate 28k less views in Brisbane when no Queensland side is playing and 17k less in Sydney when no NSW team is involved.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

How

most people who watch league in Perth will already have fox or kayo

how many new tv viewers? 10 or 20k ?

The other day they were telling us NRL doesn't rate on 9Gem in Perth because everyone who follows the game has Kayo or Foxtel. Now they're telling us there's thousands of RL fans in Perth that don't have Kayo or Foxtel.

They're full of shit. The other day @mongoose said Brisbane has a higher population density than Perth. When I pointed out its the other way around he went nuts and claimed most people live within 40km of Milton. It's funny he said that because @Perth Red reckons the bulk of a team's active fanbase live within a 25km radius of their team's stadium. If all of that is true then it explains why the Broncos average 170k TV viewers and 33k crowds at Lang Park versus the 74k TV viewers and 42k crowds at Perth Stadium for the Eagles. He's always gloating about how the Eagles are so much larger than the Broncos. Turns out he has been exaggerating about the size of their supporter base.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

When i pointed out they averaged 38k at Optus......well, the scorchers crowds are irrelevant.

Scorchers home game total attendance in Perth has been 1,454,768 across 65 matches for an average 22,381 over the past 12 seasons.

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They were based at the WACA before relocating to Perth Stadium, numbnuts.

My argument was the Scorchers and Wildcats are strongly supported because they are as dominant in the BBL and NBL as the Storm are in the NRL.

Scorchers have won 5 titles since the BBL began in 2011-12

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Wildcats made the finals for over 30 years in a row, winning 9 titles.

NBL: Perth Wildcats on verge of world record 30th straight year in finals

The Perth Wildcats are on the verge of achieving worldwide sporting immortality by making a 30th straight playoff experience.

amp.smh.com.au

The Force and Glory have struggled to win games and have a small following.

It helps that the Scorchers and Wildcats aren't going head-to-head with the Eagles and Dockers.

You would have to be a complete f**ken moron to think that three decades of success for the Wildcats and 12 years of success for the Scorchers hasn't helped them generate strong support in Perth.

Same old shit. The AFL is too popular in Perth for NRL to have a team. Now the ratings for AFL in Perth are small so the NRL can't have a team.
It's nuts

Try responding to what was actually said and stop twisting people's words around.

You do the latter instead of the former because you're triggered by any fact that doesn't support your agenda.

 

[Perth Red]

The poor TV ratings in Perth for the Eagles and Dockers is a real concern. Everyone knows fumbleball is the biggest game in Perth by a country mile. If the mighty Eagles can only generate 70-98k viewers then the Pirates will struggle to get 15-20k. Meanwhile, we've got the Broncos getting 170k, Cowboys and Titans getting 130k and Dolphins getting 126k in Brisbane.


Perth Red will tell us to ignore this very important metric, despite ranting last year that the game needs teams in Adelaide and Perth to boost the broadcast rights.

12 posts on perth in one evening, Perth still living in your head rent free lol

 

[Wb1234]

The other day they were telling us NRL doesn't rate on 9Gem in Perth because everyone who follows the game has Kayo or Foxtel. Now they're telling us there's thousands of RL fans in Perth that don't have Kayo or Foxtel.

They're full of shit. The other day @mongoose said Brisbane has a higher population density than Perth. When I pointed out its the other way around he went nuts and claimed most people live within 40km of Milton. It's funny he said that because @Perth Red reckons the bulk of a team's active fanbase live within a 25km radius of their team's stadium. If all of that is true then it explains why the Broncos average 170k TV viewers and 33k crowds at Lang Park versus the 74k TV viewers and 42k crowds at Perth Stadium for the Eagles. He's always gloating about how the Eagles are so much larger than the Broncos. Turns out he has been exaggerating about the size of their supporter base.

Adding teams with average tv ratings of 30k is what killed afl expansion

the lesson is right there what not to do

 

[Canard]

Adding teams with average tv ratings of 30k is what killed afl expansion

the lesson is right there what not to do

Didn't they just sign the biggest TV deal in history?

And you're balls deep in the PNG bid, that would add ZERO value to any future TV deal (not even a bit of a top up like we get from NZ)

 

[mongoose]

The other day they were telling us NRL doesn't rate on 9Gem in Perth because everyone who follows the game has Kayo or Foxtel. Now they're telling us there's thousands of RL fans in Perth that don't have Kayo or Foxtel.

They're full of shit. The other day @mongoose said Brisbane has a higher population density than Perth. When I pointed out its the other way around he went nuts and claimed most people live within 40km of Milton. It's funny he said that because @Perth Red reckons the bulk of a team's active fanbase live within a 25km radius of their team's stadium. If all of that is true then it explains why the Broncos average 170k TV viewers and 33k crowds at Lang Park versus the 74k TV viewers and 42k crowds at Perth Stadium for the Eagles. He's always gloating about how the Eagles are so much larger than the Broncos. Turns out he has been exaggerating about the size of their supporter base.

It's not just about engaging existing RL fans, it's about creating new fans to the game. Those people who have had a taste of Origin or 1 NRL game but aren't engaged in the week to week season, why aren't they engaged? because there is no team in their city to support.

This density argument again? you come up with some confusing and muddled points. Unlike you I have been to Perth numerous times and I have ventured outside of my local neighborhood in Brisbane numerous times. Brisbane is denser than Perth where 90% of the population live, trust me on this. It's a more compact city, more apartment towers and complexes. What this has to do with expansion I don't know...

 

[Wb1234]

It's not just about engaging existing RL fans, it's about creating new fans to the game. Those people who have had a taste of Origin or 1 NRL game but aren't engaged in the week to week season, why aren't they engaged? because there is no team in their city to support.

This density argument again? you come up with some confusing and muddled points. Unlike you I have been to Perth numerous times and I have ventured outside of my local neighborhood in Brisbane numerous times. Brisbane is denser than Perth where 90% of the population live, trust me on this. It's a more compact city, more apartment towers and complexes. What this has to do with expansion I don't know...

Even though swans lions giants suns and storm all get fairly average tv ratings we need to add Perth because it will increase tv viewers by 15k more than currently

 

[Perth Red]

Even though swans lions giants suns and storm all get fairly average tv ratings we need to add Perth because it will increase tv viewers by 15k more than currently

Donkey has shown you what adding an expansion team can do in a market with his constant quipping about lions tv audiences. He’s literally making Avery strong argument that adding perth will Increase tv audiences lol

not to mention there is a lot more benefit to code for growing in new markets than just to add some extra tv audience. Afl has proved this with its mammoth media deal and much larger sponsorship portfolio despite smaller tv audiences.

 

[Wb1234]

Donkey has shown you what adding an expansion team can do in a market with his constant quipping about lions tv audiences. He’s literally making Avery strong argument that adding perth will Increase tv audiences lol

not to mention there is a lot more benefit to code for growing in new markets than just to add some extra tv audience. Afl has proved this with its mammoth media deal and much larger sponsorship portfolio despite smaller tv audiences.

What benenfits

nz and png offer juniors and international comp

Perth ????

15k extra viewers is worth almost nothing for tv

 

[Canard]

Donkey has shown you what adding an expansion team can do in a market with his constant quipping about lions tv audiences. He’s literally making Avery strong argument that adding perth will Increase tv audiences lol

not to mention there is a lot more benefit to code for growing in new markets than just to add some extra tv audience. Afl has proved this with its mammoth media deal and much larger sponsorship portfolio despite smaller tv audiences.

It's an incredible about face from the guy who was seriously claiming that Singapore should be on the radar for expansion