18th club, whose next?

[Pippen94]

Oh look, the three forum morons have now formed a circle jerk.

Only a certified idiot would consider the Storm expansion to be a failure.

"They are only successful, because they are a well run organisation!!!!"

strawman. We talking about player development. Huge failure in that regard..

 

[Canard]

strawman. We talking about player development. Huge failure in that regard..

An out of date trope, in the last 5 seasons there has been a significant increase in the number of Victorian juniors debuting in the NRL.

Of course, you wouldn't know that, because your an ignorant f**kwit.

Rugby league in Victoria - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The expansionists are deluding themselves into believing the Storm are successful because they're "professionally run". Their success is a combination of corruption (salary cap rort) and bail outs from the company that controlled rugby league between 1998-2011 (News Ltd). The salary cap rort left a lot of questions that remain unanswered.

• How did the club rort the cap when it needed an extra $5m per annum from News Ltd to offset its losses?
• How did News Ltd not know about the rort?
• How can a business that orchestrated the worst case of salary cap rorting in in the history of Australian sport be considered "professionally run"?
• If this is what is required to succeed in Melbourne, what chance does a team have in Perth?

Expansionists choose to live in denial. There's definitely something wrong with the way these clowns [who are championing Melbourne's dark history] are wired.

 

[mongoose]

The expansionists are deluding themselves into believing the Storm are successful because they're "professionally run". Their success is a combination of corruption (salary cap rort) and bail outs from the company that controlled rugby league between 1998-2011 (News Ltd). The salary cap rort left a lot of questions that remain unanswered.

• How did the club rort the cap when it needed an extra $5m per annum from News Ltd to offset its losses?
• How did News Ltd not know about the rort?
• How can a business that orchestrated the worst case of salary cap rorting in in the history of Australian sport be considered "professionally run"?
• If this is what is required to succeed in Melbourne, what chance does a team have in Perth?

Expansionists choose to live in denial. There's definitely something wrong with the way these clowns [who are championing Melbourne's dark history] are wired.

I would say the Storms success is the reason QLD won 11 out of 12 series... They would never have won that many without the Slater/Smith/Cronk combination. Truth is QLD owe many of those victories to the Storm, it's also one reason so many people in NSW despise the club.
Anyway, they play out of world class stadium, have more members than most clubs, higher home attendance than most clubs, higher social media followers than most clubs across all codes, higher national TV ratings than most clubs. They sign players with potential and turn them into superstars, they sign plodders and turn them into strong first graders.
The Salary cap rorting seemed to be mainly due to one dodgy man, Brian Waldron, i would say the players were too stupid to be on it, Maybe Bellamy had some knowledge but I doubt it..

 

[Maximus]

There's no way the other 16 clubs will want to prop up Melbourne and Perth.

It's so weird that they didn't ask you before voting on it

PERTH

Perth was voted the most popular expansion choice in a survey of NRL club chairmen and chief executives last year.

Maybe there was a secret part of the question that said that they'd have to kick out Melbourne?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I would say the Storms success is the reason QLD won 11 out of 12 series... They would never have won that many without the Slater/Smith/Cronk combination. Truth is QLD owe many of those victories to the Storm, it's also one reason so many people in NSW despise the club.
Anyway, they play out of world class stadium, have more members than most clubs, higher home attendance than most clubs, higher social media followers than most clubs across all codes, higher national TV ratings than most clubs. They sign players with potential and turn them into superstars, they sign plodders and turn them into strong first graders.
The Salary cap rorting seemed to be mainly due to one dodgy man, Brian Waldron, i would say the players were too stupid to be on it, Maybe Bellamy had some knowledge but I doubt it..

You're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Only 30k people in Melbourne watch the Storm on FTA. For every one person in Melbourne watching the Storm on FTA, there are four from Brisbane. All this proves is a) Brisbane has room to support more teams and b) Melbourne developed a strong fanbase in SEQ when the Broncos were the only team in the region.

Only a moron would argue that what happened with the Storm in SEQ will be replicated with Perth. One of your arguments is that Perth only needs 30k viewers because the rest will come from Brisbane. There's no guarantee that Brisbane will adopt a team from Perth the way they did with Melbourne. Odds are that Perth will be poorly supported in Brisbane. I don't recall the Reds having any supporters in Queensland.

 

[Wb1234]

The expansionists are deluding themselves into believing the Storm are successful because they're "professionally run". Their success is a combination of corruption (salary cap rort) and bail outs from the company that controlled rugby league between 1998-2011 (News Ltd). The salary cap rort left a lot of questions that remain unanswered.

• How did the club rort the cap when it needed an extra $5m per annum from News Ltd to offset its losses?
• How did News Ltd not know about the rort?
• How can a business that orchestrated the worst case of salary cap rorting in in the history of Australian sport be considered "professionally run"?
• If this is what is required to succeed in Melbourne, what chance does a team have in Perth?

Expansionists choose to live in denial. There's definitely something wrong with the way these clowns [who are championing Melbourne's dark history] are wired.

I wouldn’t call themselves expansionists

I think we are expansionists

they are more fans who love the afl other the game itself. If they could take everything afl except the game itself they would drop rugby league in a beatbeat

dominance in nsw and qld ?

strong representation In regional nsw and qld ?

canberra ?

New Zealand ?

Nope

a team in Adelaide Perth maybe even two is the way to go

 

[Wb1234]

I would say the Storms success is the reason QLD won 11 out of 12 series... They would never have won that many without the Slater/Smith/Cronk combination. Truth is QLD owe many of those victories to the Storm, it's also one reason so many people in NSW despise the club.
Anyway, they play out of world class stadium, have more members than most clubs, higher home attendance than most clubs, higher social media followers than most clubs across all codes, higher national TV ratings than most clubs. They sign players with potential and turn them into superstars, they sign plodders and turn them into strong first graders.
The Salary cap rorting seemed to be mainly due to one dodgy man, Brian Waldron, i would say the players were too stupid to be on it, Maybe Bellamy had some knowledge but I doubt it..

Storms success detracted from the broncos

for all their on field success it hasn’t flowed on to any tangible benefit to rugby league in terms of a bigger tv deal for example

look at the huge spike in qld ratings this year due a stronger broncos

the broncos are our flagship club

 

[mongoose]

You're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Only 30k people in Melbourne watch the Storm on FTA. For every one person in Melbourne watching the Storm on FTA, there are four from Brisbane. All this proves is a) Brisbane has room to support more teams and b) Melbourne developed a strong fanbase in SEQ when the Broncos were the only team in the region.

Only a moron would argue that what happened with the Storm in SEQ will be replicated with Perth. One of your arguments is that Perth only needs 30k viewers because the rest will come from Brisbane. There's no guarantee that Brisbane will adopt a team from Perth the way they did with Melbourne. Odds are that Perth will be poorly supported in Brisbane. I don't recall the Reds having any supporters in Queensland.

"play out of world class stadium, have more members than most clubs, higher home attendance than most clubs, higher social media followers than most clubs across all codes, higher national TV ratings than most clubs. They sign players with potential and turn them into superstars, they sign plodders and turn them into strong first graders."

this is scraping the bottom of the barrel? lol wtf

You pick out 1 single metric and that is your reasoning to label them a failure. You aren't very smart are you?

 

[Wb1234]

strawman. We talking about player development. Huge failure in that regard..

This isn’t a fair contest pipps

go easy on them

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I wouldn’t call themselves expansionists

I think we are expansionists

they are more fans who love the afl other the game itself. If they could take everything afl except the game itself they would drop rugby league in a beatbeat

dominance in nsw and qld ?

strong representation In regional nsw and qld ?

canberra ?

New Zealand ?

Nope

a team in Adelaide Perth maybe even two is the way to go

They desperately want teams in Adelaide and Perth so they don't get teased by the AwFuL fans the deal with at work.

 

[Wb1234]

They desperately want teams in Adelaide and Perth so they don't get teased by the AwFuL fans the deal with at work.

Hahahahaha

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Hahahahaha

FMD that’s funny

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

"play out of world class stadium, have more members than most clubs, higher home attendance than most clubs, higher social media followers than most clubs across all codes, higher national TV ratings than most clubs. They sign players with potential and turn them into superstars, they sign plodders and turn them into strong first graders."

this is scraping the bottom of the barrel? lol wtf

You pick out 1 single metric and that is your reasoning to label them a failure. You aren't very smart are you?

The "world class stadium" was built because the Melbourne Victory were getting massive crowds. Stop pretending it was built solely because of the Storm.

If you were smart you wouldn't credit the Storm for the Victory's accomplishments. Up until 2019 the Victory were getting bigger crowds than the Storm.

 

[mongoose]

The "world class stadium" was built because the Melbourne Victory were getting massive crowds. Stop pretending it was built solely because of the Storm.

If you were smart you wouldn't credit the Storm for the Victory's accomplishments. Up until 2019 the Victory were getting bigger crowds than the Storm.

yep only for the Victory

 

[Wb1234]

When donkey is in one of these moods I just grab the popcorn and just kick back for the lols

he’s exposing the myth about the storm

 

[Perth Red]

Storm are desperate to hold onto the Sunshine Coast. Doesn't bode well for a Perth-based team. Melbourne Storm will vote against it to protect their interests.

Storm make big play to retain Sunshine Coast as more expansion looms​

The Storm have been involved in a long-term partnership with the Sunshine Coast Falcons.​

SCOTT PRYDE​

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The Melbourne Storm have made a big play to lock up the support of the Sunshine Coast Falcons into the future in the face of looming expansion threats.​

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The Storm have been linked with Sunshine Coast Falcons for years, and now, have made the move to launch a new, full-blown pathway for talent in the region.​

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The Melbourne Sstorm have made qa big play to lock up the support of the Sunshine Coast Falcons into the future in the face of looming expansion threats.​

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The Storm have been linked with Sunshine Coast Falcons for years, and now, have made the move to launch a new, full-blown pathway for talent in the region.​

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The club said the pathway has been established to provide an elite pathway to the NRL for juniors through the Sunshine Coast Falcons and Southeast Queensland.​

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The Storm have been blessed over the years with talent coming in droves out of Queensland, including three of their biggest stars in Billy Slater, Cooper Cronk and Cameron Smith.​

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In the current sides, Cameron Munster is also a Queenslander.​

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“We've been in partnership with the Sunshine Coast Falcons since 2014 and this is another avenue in which we can increase our footprint in the Sunshine Coast region,” former Storm player and current club head of pathways Tim Glasby said in a statement.​

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“Typically, the model has seen non-selected NRL listed players drop back into the Q-Cup competition, so we already have a strong relationship with the Club.​

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“Trent Loiero is a great example of a player who was recruited directly from the Falcons to Storm, as well as Christian Welch from our other Feeder Club Brisbane Easts, so we know just how important these pathways are to provide that direct opportunity to play first grade football.​

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"We're really excited about this program which enables us to invest in the local talent and hopefully get them to a position where they are ready to play in the NRL.”​

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The pathway, which will see the Storm and Falcons continue their close link, also comes with the NRL club gaining NSW Cup outfit the North Sydney Bears as a feeder outfit for 2024, which Zero Tackle understands will be heavily supported with many of the top players based in Melbourne turning out for the club, instead of travelling to Queensland each week.​

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The Falcons will likely receive a number of players who can be based in Queensland for much of the year and won't be required to make as much back and forth travel.​

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But the Storm's pathway on the Sunshine Coast also comes with the Dolphins looking to take over the north side of Brisbane. The club recently took the Norths Devils off the Brisbane Broncos, and have full intentions on making the region their own, which could see the Storm's pool and talent acquistion areas shrink.​

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There is also talk that another Queensland-based team could be admitted to the NRL when they decide to expand again, likely in time for the 2027 season.​

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Toby Poole, who has been part of the Storm and Falcons for many years, will be the pathways' head coach, with selected players to commence training this week in the form of three on-field and two weight sessions per week.​

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Storm make big play to retain Sunshine Coast as more expansion looms

The Storm have been involved in a long-term partnership with the Sunshine Coast Falcons.

www.zerotackle.com

Just another reason Dolphins over easts was such a dumb choice for everyone expect news ltd

 

[Bukowski]

QLD don't win 9 series in a row without Storm

 

[mongoose]

I wouldn’t call themselves expansionists

I think we are expansionists

they are more fans who love the afl other the game itself. If they could take everything afl except the game itself they would drop rugby league in a beatbeat

dominance in nsw and qld ?

strong representation In regional nsw and qld ?

canberra ?

New Zealand ?

Nope

a team in Adelaide Perth maybe even two is the way to go

the expansionist aren't threatened by AFL. You, Donkey and Pippen are... thinking it will take over QLD.

 

[Perth Red]

Perth will partner with a second tier east coast club or two. At the same time Perth club will invest in local systems and pathways drawing on the 4k registered WA players to turn some into NRL first graders. In the short term they will sign from every other club and SL just like the Dolphins have had to, and continue to.

Dont get so stressed people, we got this lol

 

[Perth Red]

You're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Only 30k people in Melbourne watch the Storm on FTA. For every one person in Melbourne watching the Storm on FTA, there are four from Brisbane. All this proves is a) Brisbane has room to support more teams and b) Melbourne developed a strong fanbase in SEQ when the Broncos were the only team in the region.

Only a moron would argue that what happened with the Storm in SEQ will be replicated with Perth. One of your arguments is that Perth only needs 30k viewers because the rest will come from Brisbane. There's no guarantee that Brisbane will adopt a team from Perth the way they did with Melbourne. Odds are that Perth will be poorly supported in Brisbane. I don't recall the Reds having any supporters in Queensland.

You seem more interested in whats good for Ch9, who pay a pittance for NRL, than in growing the game. Very weird!