18th club, whose next?

[Iamback]

PNG makes no money, like zero in comparison to any AU/NZ club.

With vision like that. Bears for team 18

 

[Iamback]

Why have they produced so little to date?

Money, Lack of facilities. You can't drive between the biggest 2 cities for starters.

They are aiming for a National road system by 2040, As more is completed it opens more opportunities.

The little villages can export shit for starters

 

[Iamback]

Talent is their biggest selling point

no other nrl team will be able to match them for juniors once the nrl club is established and the junior pathways have been running for a decade

Team 18 is a 10-15 year process.

Hell we are looking at 2-3 more TV deals before the international players will be interested.

 

[mongoose]

Don't be so stupid and delusional.

The Perth Glory were drawing bigger crowds in the NSL while the Reds were pulling half as many fans to their games and losing more money than they made. This is during the so called golden age of RL in Perth when there were 10k players.

The fact is the Glory drew an average of 14,979 fans to their home games in the 1997-98 NSL season. The NSL was less popular around the country than the A-League is today. Reds drew just 13,390 in their debut season. In 96 and 97 the Reds attendances were just 8,262 and 8,776. These facts refute the bullshit narrative you're trying to spin about rugby league being more popular than soccer in Perth.

Neither you, Colk, Butthurtski nor Maxipad have proved that a Perth-based NRL club will generate enough revenue from sponsorship and corporate hospitality to compete in the NRL. You know that the mid-sized clubs run on a budget of $30-35m. The larger clubs run on a budget of $40-45m. With just $17m coming from the annual grant that leaves a lot of money for Perth to gemerate if it wishes to compete with the mid-sized clubs. The irony is Perth will struggle to be aa strong as Cronulla or Wests. That's a death sentence for a Perth-based club because it won't have pokies or a nursery to rely on.

still cherry picking data from 28 years ago lol

 

[Wb1234]

Team 18 is a 10-15 year process.

Hell we are looking at 2-3 more TV deals before the international players will be interested.

Can’t see international being a thing for a long time

but all the teams we are adding and will add (even Perth) will start adding value to future tv deals as
They grow their own market

the full value of a 20 team comp to broadcasters won’t be seen for a decade

unlike afl which offers zero growth for broadcasters

 

[Iamback]

Can’t see international being a thing for a long time

but all the teams we are adding and will add (even Perth) will start adding value to future tv deals as
They grow their own market

the full value of a 20 team comp to broadcasters won’t be seen for a decade

unlike afl which offers zero growth for broadcasters

That is the aim with this Vegas and taking over the Pacific talk.

Perth should be one of new teams, even that poses issues.

I mentioned where they'd sit on the pecking order, While some sponsors and members would follow multiple teams.

We have seen in the Eastern States that even the BBL teams have different sponsors than AFL and NRL teams. So even they are a longer view to be at their best.

 

[Maximus]

That wasn't my argument. That was your idiotic interpretation of it. I never said an NRL club's viable in any given market is dependent upon how much support there is for A-League. I specifically said a Perth-based NRL team has no chance if the Glory are broke. I've shown you the strong support the Glory had back in the 1990s when they were competing head to head with the Reds. Just accept you added up 2 and 2 and came up with 5.

You said, if a city can't financially support an A League club, they can't have an NRL licence. So that's Newcastle, North QLD, Gold Coast and Auckland all out.

You made a dumb post, and now you are trying to run away from it because everyone pointed out how dumb it was. Don't worry, wb1234 told you how smart and correct you are though.

 

[Maximus]

your inability to think objectively.

You're a blowhard who tries to sound intelligent by using words you don't understand.

Projection.

 

[Maximus]

The wealth of Santos, Coke being in PNG helps

They will sell a few home games too, No location that comes in will fail due to money. Lack of talent is only concern

What evidence is there that Santos and Coke are wanting to sponsor a PNG NRL team?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yawn. . . Try harder.

As the Glory's numbers show, crowd numbers from the 97 season have little relevance to today.

I don't see what relevance any of the rest of this has to why the A-league struggles. . . It's just a random collection of nonsense like normal.

Typical Dane deflection tactic.

 

[Dragonwest]

If it wasn't for FIFO workers then the WA economy would be f**ked.

You do realise there is a big Perth based full time workforce that is servicing the mining industry outside of FIFO.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

You said, if a city can't financially support an A League club, they can't have an NRL licence.

Strawman.

I never said anything of the sort. Provide an actual quote to back up your bullshit. You won't be able to do it.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The A-league sides are struggling because of chronic mismanagement at all levels and the popularity of the A-league itself, not because of their operating costs or the popularity of soccer in the country you numpty.

How do you explain the Glory averaging 14,979 in the "chronically mismanaged" NSL in 97-98?

Using your logic they should have drawn about 2-4k. That's what some of the other NSL clubs were drawing.

You would have to be a complete simpleton to think soccer was managed better across all levels in 97-98 than it is today.

 

[MugaB]

What evidence is there that Santos and Coke are wanting to sponsor a PNG NRL team?

Are you thick? Do you know the name of the national stadium in Port Moresby, right? Please leave the PNG discussions, you obviously are just trolling to get a rise, one thats proven you to be a complete and utter imbecile



And they already sponsor the national womens team

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As for coke a cola theyve been in the png corner since the first bid way back in 2010
And still sponsor school programs now

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I'd say they are the equivalent of Cash converters are to the Perth bids

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Coca-Cola Papua New Guinea Limited today signed a five (5) year agreement with the Papua New Guinea Rugby Football League (PNGRFL) as Naming Rights sponsors of the National Schools Rugby League (NSRL) competition in PNG.

PNGRFL secure major sponsor for National Schools Rugby League - Asia Pacific Rugby League

Coca-Cola Papua New Guinea Limited today signed a five (5) year agreement with the Papua New Guinea Rugby Football League (PNGRFL) as Naming Rights sponsors of the National Schools Rugby...

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Maxipad doesn't have a clue.

 

[MugaB]

Coca-Cola Papua New Guinea Limited today signed a five (5) year agreement with the Papua New Guinea Rugby Football League (PNGRFL) as Naming Rights sponsors of the National Schools Rugby League (NSRL) competition in PNG.

PNGRFL secure major sponsor for National Schools Rugby League - Asia Pacific Rugby League

Coca-Cola Papua New Guinea Limited today signed a five (5) year agreement with the Papua New Guinea Rugby Football League (PNGRFL) as Naming Rights sponsors of the National Schools Rugby...

asiapacificrl.com

Maxipad doesn't have a clue.

I'd say they'd probably want to be the main sponsor, after over a decade of support... santos could stay secondary, or stay supporting the womens game and stadium... or do whatever they want want really

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yawn. . . Try harder.

As the Glory's numbers show, crowd numbers from the 97 season have little relevance to today.

I don't see what relevance any of the rest of this has to why the A-league struggles. . . It's just a random collection of nonsense like normal.

So let me sum up your insane logic.
Rugby league is chronically mismanaged at all levels, Dolphins have been a failure on all metrics and Brisbane 2 should have been called the "Sawfish"?

Despite all of this, the NRL's best ever season for attendances was when the Dolphins debuted in 2023?

It takes some mental gymnastics for you to think all of those are true.

On top of that, you think the A-League is struggling across the nation due to "chronic mismanagement" at all levels, yet the Socceroos and Matildas are more successful than ever and the A-League is pulling better attendances than the NSL, despite the Glory averaging more in the NSL than they do in the A-League?

You don't have a f**ken clue.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I'd say they'd probably want to be the main sponsor, after over a decade of support... santos could stay secondary, or stay supporting the womens game and stadium... or do whatever they want want really

Coca Cola targets developing countries like Mexico, Brazil and PNG. Their product is cheap enough for the poorest people to buy.

In Mexico it's cheaper to buy Coca Cola than it is to get safe drinking water.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

People on here bash PNG's bid because of the country's poverty levels.

Look at who is the main sponsor for rugby league in Perth.

Cash Converters.

Cash Converters markets itself to people who are poor and it makes a fortune from offering high interest loans to junkies.

 

[mongoose]

So let me sum up your insane logic.
Rugby league is chronically mismanaged at all levels, Dolphins have been a failure on all metrics and Brisbane 2 should have been called the "Sawfish"?

Despite all of this, the NRL's best ever season for attendances was when the Dolphins debuted in 2023?

It takes some mental gymnastics for you to think all of those are true.

On top of that, you think the A-League is struggling across the nation due to "chronic mismanagement" at all levels, yet the Socceroos and Matildas are more successful than ever and the A-League is pulling better attendances than the NSL, despite the Glory averaging more in the NSL than they do in the A-League?

You don't have a f**ken clue.

A League attendance has gone from a League average of 13k around 2014-2015 to 8k in 2023-24. yeah I think they got some problems... The Socceroo's are not what they were in the mid 2000s when we had numerous players in the top Leagues in Europe. Most Socceroo's are in European secondary division teams or smaller Leagues like Scottish PL or Eredivisie (Dutch). Men's soccer has been in decline.