18th club, whose next?

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yeh sure but just going by what has been in the media doesn't give me much hope they have been proactive in that regard. Considering the chairman only realised that perth exists and wants a team after the premier gave him a call leaves me doubtful.

V'landys didn't say he wants a team in Perth. He said a Perth bid will be taken into consideration. Since then he's endorsed the PNG/Pasifika bid.

 

[shewi6]

V'landys didn't say he wants a team in Perth. He said a Perth bid will be taken into consideration. Since then he's endorsed the PNG/Pasifika bid.

I never stated he said that. But he seems to go with the wind on all his expansion related ideas by what news article is currently advocating for whatever team.

 

[Centy Coast]

V'landys didn't say he wants a team in Perth. He said a Perth bid will be taken into consideration. Since then he's endorsed the PNG/Pasifika bid.

V’Landys isn’t interested in Perth, why ?, gambling, V’Landys only wants people’s hard earned losses, it is all about gambling revenue to him, the guy is not taking the NRL to Las Vegas for nothing.
V’Landys is head of NSW horse racing for a reason, its is all about gambling revenue and where he can widen that revenue into new markets, where there is an actual market, which WA does not have.

 

[Colk]

V'landys didn't say he wants a team in Perth. He said a Perth bid will be taken into consideration. Since then he's endorsed the PNG/Pasifika bid.

Mate the ARLC has been quoted at various times over the past two years as looking at a second Victorian club, a Perth side, a second New Zealand side, a fifth Queensland club and a PNG side.

Everything is just a prediction or supposition based on what people want. I would say that a PNG side is probably likely but who would even say that is a guarantee. There’s definitely no guarantee beyond that.

 

[Titanic]

Debating the pros and cons of expansionism seems a bit myopic without some of the key questions, all of which seem to have been debated ad nauseam without being answered, be answered including but not limited to:

1. Do the broadcasters actually need more than 18 franchises or even want them at the NRL's price tag?
2. How many games will the RLPA allow the players to play?
3. Is another bout of relocation (no more merging please) ever going to eventuate?
4. Even with the voracious 24/7 media's appetite for more "content" why is coverage at Cup level diminishing?
5. With the constant tinkering of the rules is the game heading to be a mixed sport?

My views:

1. 20 so that the finals are a reward for a strong performance, played as 2 conferences (home and away + finals)
2. See point 1.
3. Break up the current mergers, then Sydney 6, Brisbane 3 and spread the rest.
4. Oceania 9's played mid-week using balance of NRL top and development squads.
5. Bring back the biff or if not stop tinkering with the rules.

 

[Wb1234]

2 clubs, no need for a third for many many years to come. best stop waiting for Logan and jump on the phins train.

This is what you posted about brisbane two now you’ve copied and pasted it for Brisbane 3

 

[Wb1234]

We all think its rubbish, BUT fųkwit claimed "where did you get the figure from" so we decided to post all the news oulets that all said the same shit... now it oh yeah but those aren't news outlets ffs

I’m sticking with 600 million

just because andrew hill is hosing down speculation is fine

he isn’t going to tell the feds they will take less

heck, he could even take any surplus funds and build a pokie den

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

V’Landys isn’t interested in Perth, why ?, gambling, V’Landys only wants people’s hard earned losses, it is all about gambling revenue to him, the guy is not taking the NRL to Las Vegas for nothing.
V’Landys is head of NSW horse racing for a reason, its is all about gambling revenue and where he can widen that revenue into new markets, where there is an actual market, which WA does not have.

The biggest problem with Perth is it offers little reward and comes with a lot of risk. The amount of funding needed to grow rugby league in a parochial fumbleball market will be enormous. The ARLC is not going to waste millions of dollars on developing the game at the grassroots level in fumbleball markets.

@Perth Red, @The Great Dane and @mongoose can argue all they like about the game needing to provide fumbleball markets with an NRL team and invest money at the grassroots level, but all they're doing is wasting their time. The QRL, NSWRL NRL clubs and RLPA have a say over these matters and will never accept their proposal.

In the best case scenario, a Perth-based team will lead to a modest growth in viewership and participation. The WARL will be lucky to have 10-15k players by 2050.

The Storm have been strong on the field throughout their 25 year existence, yet there's just 5k players in Victoria.

There's more room for growth in PNG and New Zealand.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

This is what you posted about brisbane two now you’ve copied and pasted it for Brisbane 3

At one stage he said Adelaide and Perth can support two AwFuL teams but Brisbane cannot have more than one NRL team.

 

[mongoose]

None of this changes the fact the Reds were the only expansion side from 1995 to average less than 20k to their home games. You conveniently ignore this fact because it doesn't suit your agenda.

The Dolphins have been a success on all fronts. The Raiders and Storm have gone through long periods of sustained on field success, yet they've never drawn as much support from the commercial sector and community as the Dolphins managed in their first season.

no, 1995 is just 1 year, its meaningless to draw any conclusions on the viability of expansion clubs based on that alone. The Storm started low and have steadily increased over time. A new stadium definitely helped for them. The Reds might have been averaging 20k if they had stuck around for another 10 years, you just don't know.

The Raiders success period was 1987-1995, you really comparing corporate support back then to now?

 

[MugaB]

I’m sticking with 600 million

just because andrew hill is hosing down speculation is fine

he isn’t going to tell the feds they will take less

heck, he could even take any surplus funds and build a pokie den

When i meant fükwit, i meant karentard and maxipad, both equally as selfish and dumb as each other

 

[TheEroticGamer]

Ch9 needed content for STAN.

And the content they got was dog shit with a swastika print that no one in Australia cares about. Their mindset is like their production, outdated.

 

[Wb1234]

When i meant fükwit, i meant karentard and maxipad, both equally as selfish and dumb as each other

I know you’re a good egg mugs

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

no, 1995 is just 1 year, its meaningless to draw any conclusions on the viability of expansion clubs based on that alone. The Storm started low and have steadily increased over time. A new stadium definitely helped for them. The Reds might have been averaging 20k if they had stuck around for another 10 years, you just don't know.

The Raiders success period was 1987-1995, you really comparing corporate support back then to now?

If you're using Melbourne as an example them you have to factor in the reasons they've been successful. News Ltd pumped $100m into the club over 20 years to give them an advantage over every other club. A Perth-based team won't have his luxury.

The club has been camped inside the top four over most of its existence.

Are you suggesting a Perth-based team will always finish inside the top four?

Would the Storm have a core supporterbase of 14-17k if they spent the bulk of their existence at the bottom of the ladder?

 

[Perth Red]

We don't know if a Perth-based team will lead to more people playing and watching the game. If the team struggles on the field then the odds are it will have a small fanbase. The Glory and Force are an example of how bad things could turn.

And the wildcats and scorchers are examples of how good it could be. But hey not like you to look for the negative,

 

[Perth Red]

Ch9 want a third team in Brisbane. They don't want one from Perth. Let that sink into your brain cell.

Broadcasters provide the bulk of the game's income.

If the game wants a club that generates more revenue from the broadcasters, average more than 20k to their home games, generate strong commercial support and have junior pathways in place then Brisbane is the only option that ticks all the boxes.



You don't know the difference between "your" and "you're".

You've spent the last 15 years on here pushing for something that has Buckley's chance of happening. That's dumb.

The turkey you're responding to thinks there's a conspiracy between the ARLC, ARU, Foxtel and Ch9 to prevent Perth from having an NRL club to give the Force "space". That's as dumb as it gets.

Face reality mate, Richardson jumped ship as he knew png link up was last hope for easts anytime in next decade or two. Queensland firehawks ain’t happening, not for a very very long time.they might get club 20 depending how long it takes to get that far, or it might be two Brisbane clubs is enough and that will be it.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

And the content they got was dog shit with a swastika print that no one in Australia cares about. Their mindset is like their production, outdated.

I didn't disagree about their content being shit. The point is STAN Sport needs content and there was f**k all available. So far they've picked up RU, IndyCar, minor Australian motor sport, tennis and some other crap. They were probably thinking the RU would also provide them with content to air on Ch9on Saturday nights, such as Test matches and Super Rugby.

 

[Perth Red]

Channel 9 thought it was smart to dump the 100m they stole back from the NRL during COVID into Union so I don’t think their wider strategy should be taken as gospel.

They also refused to pay anything for 47% more Brisbane content. He seems to have missed that reality!

 

[Bukowski]

And the wildcats and scorchers are examples of how good it could be. But hey not like you to look for the negative,

Scorchers averaged 35k this season, which will go up again tmrw. But perth is an AFL state, no other sport can succeed there.

 

[Bukowski]

Face reality mate, Richardson jumped ship as he knew png link up was last hope for easts anytime in next decade or two. Queensland firehawks ain’t happening, not for a very very long time.they might get club 20 depending how long it takes to get that far, or it might be two Brisbane clubs is enough and that will be it.

But the weatherman man said......