18th club, whose next?

[Brian potter]

Regardless of whether PNG gets an NRL licence, I hope the structures that are being set up in the country remain in place. Over time they will improve the standard of rugby league in PNG and make their players more competitive.

Regardless of whether PNG gets an NRL licence, I hope the structures that are being set up in the country remain in place. Over time they will improve the standard of rugby league in PNG and make their players more competitive.

So do I mate.

I think these structures on the ground in PNG are far more important and far more valuable than any PNG NRL Franchise could ever and will be.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

So do I mate.

I think these structures on the ground in PNG are far more important and far more valuable than any PNG NRL Franchise could ever and will be.

I agree.

A strong professional rugby league competition in PNG is better than an NRL team in Port Moresby. Having multiple professional teams scattered throughout the country will allow more people to attend high quality rugby league games on a regular basis.

I'd love to see the QRL, NSWRL and PNGRFL work together to create a professional competition that amalgamates the Queensland Cup and NSW Cup with the PNG competition. The challenge is finding the capital needed to make it viable. This is where a company like Ch10/Paramount could take a punt and throw $30m a year towards a 12 team competiton. The clubs can be given a grant of $2.5m and a salary cap of $2m.

The competition could have the Brisbane Tigers, Ipswich Jets, Central Coast Bears, Newtown Jets, Central Queensland Capras, Sunshine Coast Falcons, Northern Pride, Mackay Cutters and four PNG teams.

 

[Wb1234]

I agree.

A strong professional rugby league competition in PNG is better than an NRL team in Port Moresby. Having multiple professional teams scattered throughout the country will allow more people to attend high quality rugby league games on a regular basis.

I'd love to see the QRL, NSWRL and PNGRFL work together to create a professional competition that amalgamates the Queensland Cup and NSW Cup with the PNG competition. The challenge is finding the capital needed to make it viable. This is where a company like Ch10/Paramount could take a punt and throw $30m a year towards a 12 team competiton. The clubs can be given a grant of $2.5m and a salary cap of $2m.

The competition could have the Brisbane Tigers, Ipswich Jets, Central Coast Bears, Newtown Jets, Central Queensland Capras, Sunshine Coast Falcons, Northern Pride, Mackay Cutters and four PNG teams.

An nrl team will support junior pathways

top down is the only way to go regarding expansion

nz couldn’t sustain a league to rival the nrl what hope has png got ?
Being part of the best rugby league comp on earth will drive the png game forward as it has for the wahs and nz

 

[Brian potter]

An nrl team will support junior pathways

you can support junior pathways without an NRL team and for a fraction of the cost.

top down is the only way to go regarding expansion

not in PNG it isn’t.

nz couldn’t sustain a league to rival the nrl what hope has png got ?
Being part of the best rugby league comp on earth will drive the png game forward as it has for the wahs and nz

who's talking about rivalling the NRL?

also the lion red and batercard cup competitions weren’t popular and financially viable compared to the digicel cup which is both popular and financially viable.

 

[Canard]

PNG will never sustain any domestic professional sporting competition (of any code) and certainly not anything that will ever be broadcast quality.

But we don't need it to, if some healthy junior structures can be put in place that could work to improve the game

The reality though, is that any serious talent will relocate to Australia as soon as its identified.

 

[MugaB]

you can support junior pathways without an NRL team and for a fraction of the cost.

not in PNG it isn’t.

who's talking about rivalling the NRL?

also the lion red and batercard cup competitions weren’t popular and financially viable compared to the digicel cup which is both popular and financially viable.

Why all this distaste if PNG get the licence, they'll have those pathways forever if the bid team is granted the licence, so whats the big deal, are we preferring another area get the 18th over png, is that it, coz anywhere will give you a 9th game to sell, and 19th wont so make sure that an untapped new market, one that the broadcasters want to buy aka probably Perth or Melbourne2 or Brisbane3

 

[Brian potter]

I agree.

A strong professional rugby league competition in PNG is better than an NRL team in Port Moresby. Having multiple professional teams scattered throughout the country will allow more people to attend high quality rugby league games on a regular basis.

add to that the running of junior grade competitions with say u19’s&u17’s along side the national digicel cup all feeding into the hunters and you’ve got some serious pathways for talented kumuls.

I'd love to see the QRL, NSWRL and PNGRFL work together to create a professional competition that amalgamates the Queensland Cup and NSW Cup with the PNG competition. The challenge is finding the capital needed to make it viable. This is where a company like Ch10/Paramount could take a punt and throw $30m a year towards a 12 team competiton. The clubs can be given a grant of $2.5m and a salary cap of $2m.

thats too much of a stretch for a lower tier competition in my opinion. Best to keep it as regional as possible with PNG sides competing in the Queensland cup.

The competition could have the Brisbane Tigers, Ipswich Jets, Central Coast Bears, Newtown Jets, Central Queensland Capras, Sunshine Coast Falcons, Northern Pride, Mackay Cutters and four PNG teams.

I just don’t think the finances would add up unfortunately for a 2nd tier national competition.

 

[Wb1234]

Why all this distaste if PNG get the licence, they'll have those pathways forever if the bid team is granted the licence, so whats the big deal, are we preferring another area get the 18th over png, is that it, coz anywhere will give you a 9th game to sell, and 19th wont so make sure that an untapped new market, one that the broadcasters want to buy aka probably Perth or Melbourne2 or Brisbane3

Wrong skin colour
Don’t have enough money in their wallets

 

[Colk]

Wrong skin colour
Don’t have enough money in their wallets

That is a really pathetic accusation to make (actually the lowest one you can accuse of somebody else)

 

[MugaB]

That is a really pathetic accusation to make (actually the lowest one you can accuse of somebody else)

Really its basically been going on since this bid was announced

 

[Canard]

Why all this distaste if PNG get the licence, they'll have those pathways forever if the bid team is granted the licence

The pathways in New Zealand are barely functioning.

Nothing is "forever" in one of the most impoverished nations on Earth.

 

[Maximus]

They lost four Broncos games and there was no one else bidding for the rights. News Ltd paid an extra $20m a year for the Dolphins and and four more Broncos games.

We aren't talking about Foxsports, we are talking about ch9 because that's the network you regularly bring up. They paid $0 extra.

Depends on if it's in the contract.

So if they demand an extra Brisbane team, and then refuse to pay extra for it, we just give them what they want anyway?

Ch9 will lose marketshare, but they're not in the same precarious position as Ch10.

The 6pm news on Ch9 draws strong ratings. There's plenty of programs on Ch9 that draw strong ratings.

Ch10 often gets out rated by the ABC.



Ch9 also own the old Fairfax publications. Ch10 don't have a stake in the print media. Losing access to Ch9 means less promotion in the print media.

Ch9 barely promote the game as it is, despite claiming to be the home of rugby league.

 

[Colk]

Really its basically been going on since this bid was announced

People are pointing out that it would be difficult to do because it is an impoverished nation with a high crime rate. Those things (high crime rate and poverty) are facts and to state that people who are making those points are racially motivated is a pretty disgusting accusation to make.

 

[Maximus]

People are pointing out that it would be difficult to do because it is an impoverished nation with a high crime rate. Those things (high crime rate and poverty) are facts and to state that people who are making those points are racially motivated is a pretty disgusting accusation to make.

The ones making the accusation are telling on themselves really. High crime and poverty is not race related, but these people are assuming it must be.

 

[Iamback]

PNG will never sustain any domestic professional sporting competition (of any code) and certainly not anything that will ever be broadcast quality.

But we don't need it to, if some healthy junior structures can be put in place that could work to improve the game

The reality though, is that any serious talent will relocate to Australia as soon as its identified.

The biggest things RL has of value. A full NRLW season and test footy.

Even if a PNG team produces talent that goes elsewhere, It will help the test side and International RL as a whole.

That is the gains to be made here

 

[Canard]

People are pointing out that it would be difficult to do because it is an impoverished nation with a high crime rate. Those things (high crime rate and poverty) are facts and to state that people who are making those points are racially motivated is a pretty disgusting accusation to make.

The ones making the accusation are telling on themselves really. High crime and poverty is not race related, but these people are assuming it must be.

Ignore it, they are clearly trying to bait people.

They actually don't give two f**ks about the subject matter, and see it as an opportunity to troll.

 

[Canard]

The biggest things RL has of value. A full NRLW season and test footy.

Even if a PNG team produces talent that goes elsewhere, It will help the test side and International RL as a whole.

That is the gains to be made here

All that can be done now, for far less money and risk, as I've said multiple times.

Culturally, PNG is never going to be a big draw in terms of International footy. A Western nation beating the living piss out of its destitute poor neighbour, lacks a certain "resonance" with the sporting public.

 

[Iamback]

All that can be done now, for far less money and risk, as I've said multiple times.

Culturally, PNG is never going to be a big draw in terms of International footy. A Western nation beating the living piss out of its destitute poor neighbour, lacks a certain "resonance" with the sporting public.

Not sure it can, They were able to run the new program because the government paid for it to assist with getting an NRL team.

That is easier to sell to sponsors once you have the side in. Not sure Santos or someone is going to give them $5m a year so they can leave PNG.

Australian Government paid $7m over 2 years for the Pacific championship - That is pocket change for larger countries. Once the game gets a bigger profile

NZ and Fiji RU are playing in US.

Apparently Middle East and US are keen to host the 2030 World Cup, So the exposure from that should it eventuate will help these smaller countries.

Instead of playing these tournaments in PNG they could be played bigger places, That is benefit of a stronger Pacific brings to RL

 

[Matiunz]

Pretty sure warriors had a sydney game membership, pretty sure a number of clubs still have a membership for fans in other states when they play there. Sorry mate but you’re plain wrong on this one!

eg https://experience.melbournestorm.com.au/membership/away3

not at all, I’ve clearly stated I won’t accept a bears club in Perth that doesn’t meet what I’d consider to be an acceptable outcome for perth. But I’m also not opposed to a partnership that could benefit perth. its worked very successfully for swans, no reason it couldn’t work for perth under right circumstances. If those circumstances aren’t met I’d rather we waited another 20 years than have an east coast club fifo into perth.

Warriors did used to include a ticket to an away game as part of their NSW memberships, problem was it was in the ‘away supporters’ section which are generally the worst seats in the stadium (especially Wollongong). Mixture of that and the warriors performance over those years meant I rarely actually used the ticket.
Believe they also sometimes do a Queensland membership that has either broncos or Titans and I guess now Dolphins ticket.

 

[Vlad59]

I’ve come to this thread for my daily dose of negativity from the usual suspects.