18th club, whose next?

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

1. Ratings - I never said they had grown so don’t put words in my mouth. That’s a straw man argument. And we can’t find out what the ratings are as we don’t have access to fox data. But we do know that on fta there is a big audience for big rugby league games in Victoria. The storms profile has definitely contributed to that.

FTA ratings for regular season games on 9Gem in Melbourne are 11k. When the Storm play the number bumps up to 30k. When the Storm don't play it is about 8k.

Foxtel provided a metropolitan breakdown of the ratings in 2017. The ratings in Melbourne were terrible. About 5k.

2. Do some research and educate yourself about the pathways growing in Victoria. Stop being so obstinate and negative. The players are coming through.

5k. Most hail from RL strongholds.

3. It’s clear you have a really negative agenda with regard to the Storm. Well sadly for you they exist and are flourishing. That’s why you only focus on the negative. And that’s unhealthy.

My problem with the Storm is they relied on extra funding from News Ltd and ARLC to become a juggernaut on the field. It was unethical and will never be repeated again due to the structure of the ARLC. The only reason it happened is because News Ltd held a 50% stake in the game when the Storm were created. Perth isn't going to have these luxuries. The Storm model will not be replicated in Perth.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

who are these Brisbane rugby league fans going without, you?

You act like there are thousands of disenfranchised BRL fans expecting their club to be promoted to the NRL or something. There's probably more Storm fans in SEQLD than Easts Tigers fans lol

Look at the Dolphins you dope. Plenty of latent fans who came out of the woodwork when the club was elevated to the NRL. Few people have the time to actively support a team in the second tier. If the Storm dropped out of the NRL and played in the Queensland Cup then their active fanbase would drop to 100.

 

[Wb1234]

FTA ratings for regular season games on 9Gem in Melbourne are 11k. When the Storm play the number bumps up to 30k. When the Storm don't play it is about 8k.

Foxtel provided a metropolitan breakdown of the ratings in 2017. The ratings in Melbourne were terrible. About 5k.


5k. Most hail from RL strongholds.



My problem with the Storm is they relied on extra funding from News Ltd and ARLC to become a juggernaut on the field. It was unethical and will never be repeated again due to the structure of the ARLC. The only reason it happened is because News Ltd held a 50% stake in the game when the Storm were created. Perth isn't going to have these luxuries. The Storm model will not be replicated in Perth.

Demerge Perth and the storm

 

[Wb1234]

vlandys confirms 20 team competition whilst declaring rugby league Australia’s number one sport


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_MRE170_a&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fsport%2Fnrl%2Fnrls-record-revenue-result-declared-as-code-dethrones-afl-as-biggest-game-in-australia%2Fnews-story%2Ff569e66b12795854a3ee4f61fb026efe&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=HIGH-Segment-1-SCORE#:~:text=V'landys%20boldly%20declared%20the,double%20header%20in%20Las%20Vegas.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Unlike you, I don't need to have some article tell me what to think.

The data is from the Lions' annual reports you dope!

You're a special kind of stupid.

Unlike you, I'm not interested in killing off rugby league, but didn't your BRL team already die off? Shows why your suburb shouldn't have a team.

Logan ain't a suburb. It's a city. You truly are a special kind of stupid.

 

[Wb1234]

vlandys confirms 20 team competition whilst declaring rugby league Australia’s number one sport


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_MRE170_a&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fsport%2Fnrl%2Fnrls-record-revenue-result-declared-as-code-dethrones-afl-as-biggest-game-in-australia%2Fnews-story%2Ff569e66b12795854a3ee4f61fb026efe&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=HIGH-Segment-1-SCORE#:~:text=V'landys%20boldly%20declared%20the,double%20header%20in%20Las%20Vegas.

I absolutely think we can expand our national footprint beyond the eastern seaboard and that’s what we are looking at.

“Expansion in 2026 or 2027 is absolutely on the agenda.”

@Perth Red

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Perth is the sort of place I'd expand to after Brisbane and New Zealand have reached their full potential. Putting a team in Perth ahead of Brisbane 3 and NZ 2 screams suicidal affirmative action.

We've seen plenty of companies go to shit for discriminating against "old white men" in their hiring practices. The idiot who ran the deep sea expedition to the Titanic brought in a heap of young inexperienced employees because he thought there were too many "old white men". One of the "old white men" he discriminated against told him the company's vessel was unsafe. The owner didn't listen and died in that vessel last year when it malfunctioned.

 

[Perth Red]

You want to reduce the Queensland Cup to the third tier on the rugby league pyramid. That's essentially a death sentence for the BRL clubs that compete in the competition. Thousands of fans would stop supporting their teams if it was reduced to what the current BRL competition is on the QRL pyramid. Sponsors would pull support. No one is going to volunteer to make that sacrifice just so you can get what you want. You're a complete f**kwit for trying to shame me into supporting your dumb parasitic agenda.

Why would I as a Queenslander want one of the BRL's proud historical clubs to be reduced to propping up a bullshit plastic entity from Melbourne and Perth?

The "no true Scotsman" fallacy you're using is complete bullshit.

I never see you advocating for Hull KR to be demoted to the third tier and become a development club for Toronto and Toulouse!

What would you say if I said Hull KR should become a development club for Toronto, then accused you of not being a fan if you said your support for the game is conditional and based on the survival of your club at the top level?

Your arrogance and sense of entitlement is sickening. If Perth wants to compete with the big boys then it will need to stand on its own two feet. Stop demanding affirmative action and concessions.

Not at all, BRL clubs have a really important role to play in feeding NRL clubs through their pathways, especially in Jnrs. the stronger they are the better, at a second tier level. I thought it was really stupid of the ARLC to not fund the Clydesdales return for example.

Youd have to be a total dumbarse or not give a sht about RL to say what you just said about rather see the game die, give yourself an uppercut!

Again your notion of what a NRL club should be is totally out of kilter with reality. The fact is they are all signing whoever they can get their hands on that will better them. Most clubs have only a handful of actual first graders who've come from their area. You are stuck in the 70's!

 

[Perth Red]

I absolutely think we can expand our national footprint beyond the eastern seaboard and that’s what we are looking at.

“Expansion in 2026 or 2027 is absolutely on the agenda.”

@Perth Red

paywalled, please cut and paste

 

[mongoose]

Perth is the sort of place I'd expand to after Brisbane and New Zealand have reached their full potential. Putting a team in Perth ahead of Brisbane 3 and NZ 2 screams suicidal affirmative action.

We've seen plenty of companies go to shit for discriminating against "old white men" in their hiring practices. The idiot who ran the deep sea expedition to the Titanic brought in a heap of young inexperienced employees because he thought there were too many "old white men". One of the "old white men" he discriminated against told him the company's vessel was unsafe. The owner didn't listen and died in that vessel last year when it malfunctioned.

too bad that no one is talking about Brisbane 3

 

[Vlad59]

paywalled, please cut and paste

It’s on the Vlandys thread mate

 

[Vlad59]

paywalled, please cut and paste

Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

If I sign my kid up to play for Windsor. Penrith District junior Rugby League runs the comp. Registration is done by them, Referees come via them. Draw and everything they handle, NSWRL have no part in how that comp functions. As is the case in all junior leagues. Thats the LC, not the NRl...

forums.leagueunlimited.com

 

[Maximus]

The data is from the Lions' annual reports you dope!

You're a special kind of stupid.

And yet if you look at the financial reports, and see their actual financial position, you'd see the claim that they are $13m in debt doesn't tell the full story. Over $50m in net assets shows they are in an incredibly strong position, not even remotely close to going bust.

Logan ain't a suburb. It's a city. You truly are a special kind of stupid.

Lol special kind of stupid is the person who hasn't realised yet that he's being trolled because he constantly reacts.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Not at all, BRL clubs have a really important role to play in feeding NRL clubs through their pathways, especially in Jnrs. the stronger they are the better, at a second tier level. I thought it was really stupid of the ARLC to not fund the Clydesdales return for example.

Youd have to be a total dumbarse or not give a sht about RL to say what you just said about rather see the game die, give yourself an uppercut!

Again your notion of what a NRL club should be is totally out of kilter with reality. The fact is they are all signing whoever they can get their hands on that will better them. Most clubs have only a handful of actual first graders who've come from their area. You are stuck in the 70's!

Thanks for confirming you're a hypocritical parasite with an entitlement complex.

As a Queenslander and a BRL fan I am not obligated to support a system that leads to the diminution of traditional BRL clubs just so you can get a team in Perth. Go f**k yourself.

You wouldn't support a proposal to reduce Hull KR to the third or fourth tier and turn them into a developmental club for Toronto or Toulouse.

Do you not understand anything about the history of the game in Brisbane?

The BRL was raped and pillaged for the next part of a century. This caused a lot of resentment in Brisbane. State of Origin was built on the back of the resenentment. Queenslanders got sick of seeing their players line up for NSW at Lang Park every year before 1982.

All of this information will go over your head.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

too bad that no one is talking about Brisbane 3

“We’re really committed to working with the NRL in growing the competition, and Queensland is a big part of that. We think there’s room for another team here in Queensland, and the Dolphins have been the perfect example

Simon Fordham, Head of Strategy WWOS

The Battle of Brisbane: Behind Nine’s NRL push into Queensland

During the Broncos v Dolphins much hyped NRL clash, Mediaweek caught up with Nine's Kylie Blucher and Simon Fordham.

www.mediaweek.com.au

He never mentioned Perth.

 

[Bukowski]

How's the weather?

 

[Vlad59]

How's the weather?

Nice here.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

And yet if you look at the financial reports, and see their actual financial position, you'd see the claim that they are $13m in debt doesn't tell the full story. Over $50m in net assets shows they are in an incredibly strong position, not even remotely close to going bust.

Going concern
The Company has reported a profit of $37,750,983 for the year ended 31 October 2022 (2021: $25,337,691). As at 31 October 2022 the Company has Accumulated Funds of $53,446,210 (2021: $15,695,227) and a net current asset deficiency of $8,495,366 (2021: $4,132,787). The profit recorded in the 2022 year includes $35,125,700 (2021: $20,662,804) of grant income relating to the construction of the Training and Administration Facility, as required by accounting standards. This facility will be depreciated over its useful life which will impact future operating results.
The ability of the Company to continue as a going concern including the ability to pay its debts as and when they fall due is dependent on the Company being able to successfully generate sufficient
funds through membership, sponsorship, fundraising, gate receipts and other sources, and/or the continued financial support of the Australian Football League (“AFL”). If the Company is unable to successfully generate sufficient funding from these sources to continue its ongoing operations, there is a material uncertainty whether the Company will be able to continue as a going concern and be able to realise its assets and extinguish its liabilities in the normal course of business and at the amounts stated in the financial report.
The financial statements have been prepared on a going concern basis which assumes the Company will continue its operations and be able to meet its obligations as and when they become due and payable.

https://resources.lions.com.au/aflc-bl/document/2023/01/09/c78c8030-2fe6-4f4b-90dd-96c8af5f9a78/2022_Financial_Report.pdf

The debt was incurred when the club was anchored at the bottom of the ladder. They're currently enjoying a golden run of on field success. It's inevitable that the club will have another period of poor results. When it does the revenue it generates from football operations will fall significantly.

Lol special kind of stupid is the person who hasn't realised yet that he's being trolled because he constantly reacts.

I've called you out as a troll on numerous occasions.

 

[Maximus]

Going concern​

The Company has reported a profit of $37,750,983 for the year ended 31 October 2022 (2021: $25,337,691). As at 31 October 2022 the Company has Accumulated Funds of $53,446,210 (2021: $15,695,227) and a net current asset deficiency of $8,495,366 (2021: $4,132,787). The profit recorded in the 2022 year includes $35,125,700 (2021: $20,662,804) of grant income relating to the construction of the Training and Administration Facility, as required by accounting standards. This facility will be depreciated over its useful life which will impact future operating results.​

The ability of the Company to continue as a going concern including the ability to pay its debts as and when they fall due is dependent on the Company being able to successfully generate sufficient​

funds through membership, sponsorship, fundraising, gate receipts and other sources, and/or the continued financial support of the Australian Football League (“AFL”). If the Company is unable to successfully generate sufficient funding from these sources to continue its ongoing operations, there is a material uncertainty whether the Company will be able to continue as a going concern and be able to realise its assets and extinguish its liabilities in the normal course of business and at the amounts stated in the financial report.​

The financial statements have been prepared on a going concern basis which assumes the Company will continue its operations and be able to meet its obligations as and when they become due and payable.​

​

https://resources.lions.com.au/aflc-bl/document/2023/01/09/c78c8030-2fe6-4f4b-90dd-96c8af5f9a78/2022_Financial_Report.pdf

The debt was incurred when the club was anchored at the bottom of the ladder. They're currently enjoying a golden run of on field success. It's inevitable that the club will have another period of poor results. When it does the revenue it generates from football operations will fall significantly.



I've called you out as a troll on numerous occasions.

So since profits don't count when a team is going well, why did you like this post?

Brisbane shouldn’t have any more teams

@Perth Red remember when you said the broncos profit was under 5 million ?

 

[MugaB]

The data is from the Lions' annual reports you dope!

You're a special kind of stupid.



Logan ain't a suburb. It's a city. You truly are a special kind of stupid.

I'm a city..mmmm