18th club, whose next?

[Perth Red]

Thanks for confirming you're a hypocritical parasite with an entitlement complex.

As a Queenslander and a BRL fan I am not obligated to support a system that leads to the diminution of traditional BRL clubs just so you can get a team in Perth. Go f**k yourself.

You wouldn't support a proposal to reduce Hull KR to the third or fourth tier and turn them into a developmental club for Toronto or Toulouse.

Do you not understand anything about the history of the game in Brisbane?

The BRL was raped and pillaged for the next part of a century. This caused a lot of resentment in Brisbane. State of Origin was built on the back of the resenentment. Queenslanders got sick of seeing their players line up for NSW at Lang Park every year before 1982.

All of this information will go over your head.

you dumb merkin, you do understand that there needs to be tiers of competitions and not every club in the country can be in the NRL dont you?

Thats exactly what BRL and NSWRL clubs exist for, to give local supporters somewhere cheaper to watch Rl and to feed the top tier with talent. Thats the only reason they exist.

You need to move on, its not the 70's, BRL has its place, its not in the NRL. Why do you think one BRL club deserves to be in more than any other?

 

[Perth Red]

Vlandys latest comments:
“I would like to expand to a 20-team comp in the coming years.
“Because the game has never been in such a good position financially, we can look at more expansion and take a few risks.
“I absolutely think we can expand our national footprint beyond the eastern seaboard and that’s what we are looking at.
“Expansion in 2026 or 2027 is absolutely on the agenda.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fsport%2Fnrl%2Fnrls-record-revenue-result-declared-as-code-dethrones-afl-as-biggest-game-in-australia%2Fnews-story%2Ff569e66b12795854a3ee4f61fb026efe&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=GROUPA-Segment-1-NOSCORE

 

[Canard]

Perth is the sort of place I'd expand to after Brisbane and New Zealand have reached their full potential. Putting a team in Perth ahead of Brisbane 3 and NZ 2 screams suicidal affirmative action.

We've seen plenty of companies go to shit for discriminating against "old white men" in their hiring practices. The idiot who ran the deep sea expedition to the Titanic brought in a heap of young inexperienced employees because he thought there were too many "old white men". One of the "old white men" he discriminated against told him the company's vessel was unsafe. The owner didn't listen and died in that vessel last year when it malfunctioned.

This is the post of a deranged individual that is terminally online, and bases there whole personality on importing US politics from YouTube.

 

[Wb1234]

Because the dolphins were such a success it laid the platform for further expansion

 

[Canard]

To try to paint a discussion about RL expansion as some sort of "woke" issue, is just f**king absurd.

 

[Perth Red]

Freshwater strategy discussion on expansion:
On Perth (they are the consultancy firm engaged by WA govt to bring bid together):
Perth bid strong potential, huge WA Govt support, Albanese in perth and expects conversations
Ability to attract capital investment
large and growing population
broadcasters love idea of late night games
reckons could get WA player numbers up to 20k
attractive for players to live there
newtown jets still a possible link up
much more viable than some other bids

On PNG bid:
thinks reality will get in way and wont happen

On Bears:
thinks they could end up in NZ as Pacifica
might be too complicated to have mutliple home venues

Leo Shanahan and Jimmy Smith Discuss NRL Expansion Possibilities - Freshwater Strategy

In this week's business segment on SEN’s The Jimmy Smith Show, Freshwater Strategy Director Leo Shanahan delves into the ever-expanding realm of rugby league

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[Vlad59]

Freshwater strategy discussion on expansion:
On Perth (they are the consultancy firm engaged by WA govt to bring bid together):
Perth bid strong potential, huge WA Govt support, Albanese in perth and expects conversations
Ability to attract capital investment
large and growing population
broadcasters love idea of late night games
reckons could get WA player numbers up to 20k
attractive for players to live there
newtown jets still a possible link up
much more viable than some other bids

On PNG bid:
thinks reality will get in way and wont happen

On Bears:
thinks they could end up in NZ as Pacifica
might be too complicated to have mutliple home venues

Leo Shanahan and Jimmy Smith Discuss NRL Expansion Possibilities - Freshwater Strategy

In this week's business segment on SEN’s The Jimmy Smith Show, Freshwater Strategy Director Leo Shanahan delves into the ever-expanding realm of rugby league

freshwaterstrategy.com

The Perth assessment is solid regarding government support, time slots and capital investment. Others will disagree. I’d like to see more about sponsors eg mining etc. Potential for player pool is good as well. I think that is a genuine strength although others will disagree. As I said earlier the Storm model for pathway development as it now stands will fit perfectly there. Others will disagree.

 

[Perth Red]

The Perth assessment is solid regarding government support, time slots and capital investment. Others will disagree. I’d like to see more about sponsors eg mining etc. Potential for player pool is good as well. I think that is a genuine strength although others will disagree. As I said earlier the Storm model for pathway development as it now stands will fit perfectly there. Others will disagree.

When the Western\ Reds were set up it was done with the view that WA would produce significant # of players eventually, either through bringing across kids to WA to develop or by developing our own through improving standard of WARL. The Reds actually gave WARL clubs significant funding to lift their development. As long as the bid has WA development as part of its core focus then we could see a real boom for the game here. Id say NRL is more popular and much higher profile than back in the early 90's here. Couldn't have dreamed of a 45k crowd for neutral teams playing back then.

 

[Vlad59]

When the Western\ Reds were set up it was done with the view that WA would produce significant # of players eventually, either through bringing across kids to WA to develop or by developing our own through improving standard of WARL. The Reds actually gave WARL clubs significant funding to lift their development. As long as the bid has WA development as part of its core focus then we could see a real boom for the game here. Id say NRL is more popular and much higher profile than back in the early 90's here. Couldn't have dreamed of a 45k crowd for neutral teams playing back then.

In a developing ugly situation for us both I heartily agree with you.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

In regards to timeslots what does Perth provide? I guess a 7:30 Sunday night EST game is good for TV, but I don’t really see it giving much else that we don’t have already apart from late night games.

 

[Vlad59]

In regards to timeslots what does Perth provide? I guess a 7:30 Sunday night EST game is good for TV, but I don’t really see it giving much else that we don’t have already apart from late night games.

Perth 4 pm is 6 pm in Sydney/brisbane. Saves east coast sides playing in a crowd dead time zone.

 

[Bukowski]

In regards to timeslots what does Perth provide? I guess a 7:30 Sunday night EST game is good for TV, but I don’t really see it giving much else that we don’t have already apart from late night games.

9pm on sat.
7pm game in sydney then a 7pm game perth time on Friday nights.
Gets rid of the 6pm and 8pm kick off's which arnt great for crowds.

 

[Vlad59]

9pm on sat.
7pm game in sydney then a 7pm game perth time on Friday nights.
Gets rid of the 6pm and 8pm kick off's which arnt great for crowds.

Same as Warriors games on Friday 6pm games at a friendly time for crowds in Auckland. Terrible timeslot for east coast teams.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Perth 4 pm is 6 pm in Sydney/brisbane. Saves east coast sides playing in a crowd dead time zone.

I assume you mean mainly for Sundays? Fair point. I don’t think a 6pm Saturday kickoff would be an issue for crowds.

 

[Vlad59]

I assume you mean mainly for Sundays? Fair point. I don’t think a 6pm Saturday kickoff would be an issue for crowds.

Yep and thanks.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Same as Warriors games on Friday 6pm games at a friendly time for crowds in Auckland. Terrible timeslot for east coast teams.

Yeah I get it with NZ because it opens up all the earlier timeslots. I just don’t see it being as beneficial with Perth because Friday and Saturday are already filled up to 9:30 and I doubt kick offs later than that have much appeal. I think a Perth team would end up playing a lot of Sunday games.

 

[Vlad59]

Yeah I get it with NZ because it opens up all the earlier timeslots. I just don’t see it being as beneficial with Perth because Friday and Saturday are already filled up to 9:30 and I doubt kick offs later than that have much appeal. I think a Perth team would end up playing a lot of Sunday games.

I agree.

 

[Perth Red]

In regards to timeslots what does Perth provide? I guess a 7:30 Sunday night EST game is good for TV, but I don’t really see it giving much else that we don’t have already apart from late night games.

The obvious is a PTV game at 6-7pm AEST on a Sunday night. But if FTA or PTV wanted to get some late games sprinkled through the year you could have 9.30pm games AEST. Theyd know if that was likely to be a ratings value or not. Maybe for the pubs and clubs subscriptions?
The other benefit to the game more so than tv is things like the Saturday games could be day time games in Perth evening games in east so you get a better game often.

AEST
Sunday 4pm
Sunday 6pm
Saturday 6pm
Saturday 8pm

Saturday 9.30pm
Friday 9.30pm

those are the slots that perfectly suit a WA game. The Thursday and Friday night earlier games are problematic for Perth.

 

[Perth Red]

Yeah I get it with NZ because it opens up all the earlier timeslots. I just don’t see it being as beneficial with Perth because Friday and Saturday are already filled up to 9:30 and I doubt kick offs later than that have much appeal. I think a Perth team would end up playing a lot of Sunday games.

I hope so!
Sunday 6pm is perfect for the 9th game and perfect for Perth!!

 

[Vlad59]

I hope so!
Sunday 6pm is perfect for the 9th game and perfect for Perth!!

Exactly.