18th club, whose next?

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

you dumb merkin, you do understand that there needs to be tiers of competitions and not every club in the country can be in the NRL dont you?

Thats exactly what BRL and NSWRL clubs exist for, to give local supporters somewhere cheaper to watch Rl and to feed the top tier with talent. Thats the only reason they exist.

You need to move on, its not the 70's, BRL has its place, its not in the NRL. Why do you think one BRL club deserves to be in more than any other?

Says the idiot who thinks Hull should have two teams in the top flight.

Hull's population is 260k.

What's dumb is you thinking Perth should have a team in the NRL ahead of the Brisbane Tigers. There isn't a single metric that Perth beats the Brisbane Tigers. You want them there on the basis of affirmative action.

Assets

Brisbane Tigers : $135m. High performance training centre. Close to CBD. Play at the world's best rugby league stadium, Lang Park.

West Coast Pirates : $0. No training base. No high performance training centre. Will play at one of the worst grounds in the country.

Catchmemt
Brisbane Tigers : Bulimba to Yarrabilba. Logan City has produced dozens of players who've represented Queensland and Australia over the last 40 years. One even represented Great Britain.

West Coast Pirates : 5k unskilled juniors of zero worth.

Corporate

Brisbane Tigers : Will be one of the four richest rugby league clubs in the world. Backed by the media in the world's most parochial rugby league market.

West Coast Pirates : Will be poorer than the Gold Coast Titans and Newcastle Knights. Not backed by the media because no one in Perth gives a f**k about rugby league.

 

[Perth Red]

Vlandys comments were interesting today, he seems, and I say this without much conviction, that he wants to ensure 20 clubs are locked in before his tenure runs out in 2027. Makes sense if he wants to get C'wealth govt and WA govt money locked in whilst they are in power that he may fast track Perth and PNG asap whilst he is in power and then leave club 20 for someone else to decide? I suspect the goal will be to have 20 clubs by 2032 for when the 2033 deal starts.

 

[Perth Red]

Says the idiot who thinks Hull should have two teams in the top flight.

Hull's population is 260k.

What's dumb is you thinking Perth should have a team in the NRL ahead of the Brisbane Tigers. There isn't a single metric that Perth beats the Brisbane Tigers. You want them there on the basis of affirmative action.

Assets

Brisbane Tigers : $135m. High performance training centre. Close to CBD. Play at the world's best rugby league stadium, Lang Park.

West Coast Pirates : $0. No training base. No high performance training centre. Will play at one of the worst grounds in the country.

Catchmemt
Brisbane Tigers : Bulimba to Yarrabilba. Logan City has produced dozens of players who've represented Queensland and Australia over the last 40 years. One even represented Great Britain.

West Coast Pirates : 5k unskilled juniors of zero worth.

Corporate

Brisbane Tigers : Will be one of the four richest rugby league clubs in the world. Backed by the media in the world's most parochial rugby league market.

West Coast Pirates : Will be poorer than the Gold Coast Titans and Newcastle Knights. Not backed by the media because no one in Perth gives a f**k about rugby league.

Your Hull analogy is dumb, which doesn't surprise me. The correct analogy would be if I was saying Hull should get a third SL team ahead of Toulouse or London because both current Hull clubs are A grade clubs.
It would be a dumb position to take and I wouldnt take it. You however want to see a third Brisbane club in before we go to new and potentially more lucrative growth markets.

Whilst the numbers look nice on paper the reality is NRl doesnt need or want a third Brisbane club, certainly not anytime in the foreseeable future. For all the talk of expansion from the NRl not once has it been about Brisbane3. Even PNG has pivoted from Cairns to Port Moresby after Vlandys trip to see the Cowboys. Dolphins and Broncos arent letting another competitior in anytime soon. Maybe club 21 or 22 in a couple of decades. Deal with it.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yeah I get it with NZ because it opens up all the earlier timeslots. I just don’t see it being as beneficial with Perth because Friday and Saturday are already filled up to 9:30 and I doubt kick offs later than that have much appeal. I think a Perth team would end up playing a lot of Sunday games.

Which means that Perth's home games will be confined to Foxtel. A huge turn off for sponsors and Ch9. The Freshwater Strategies claim that Ch9 want this timeslot proves they're being paid by the WA Gov to tell bullshit. Of course Perth Red and Butthurtski bought into it hook, line and sinker.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Which means that Perth's home games will be confined to Foxtel. A huge turn off for sponsors and Ch9. The Freshwater Strategies claim that Ch9 want this timeslot proves they're being paid by the WA Gov to tell bullshit. Of course Perth Red and Butthurtski bought into it hook, line and sinker.

They still potentially get FTA games when they play away though. The Warriors very rarely get home games on FTA either because they fill those weird early foxtel timeslots. It’s not really a negative.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Your Hull analogy is dumb, which doesn't surprise me. The correct analogy would be if I was saying Hull should get a third SL team ahead of Toulouse or London because both current Hull clubs are A grade clubs.
It would be a dumb position to take and I wouldnt take it. You however want to see a third Brisbane club in before we go to new and potentially more lucrative growth markets.

Whilst the numbers look nice on paper the reality is NRl doesnt need or want a third Brisbane club, certainly not anytime in the foreseeable future. For all the talk of expansion from the NRl not once has it been about Brisbane3. Even PNG has pivoted from Cairns to Port Moresby after Vlandys trip to see the Cowboys. Dolphins and Broncos arent letting another competitior in anytime soon. Maybe club 21 or 22 in a couple of decades. Deal with it.

You're a dumb f**k if you think Hull's population of 260k is equal to Brisbane's 2.8m.

You ridicule Sydney clubs for having a catchment of 300k, yet you're fine with Hull sharing two between 260k?

Broncos and Dolphins are the largest and richest rugby league clubs in the world.

V'landys has said Brisbane can support three teams. The broadcasters support a third Brisbane team. Abdo and V'landys said the Tigers and Jets are still a chance of getting an NRL licence.

No one from the NRL mentioned Perth until the WA Premier threw a tantrum at a media conference.

What does that tell you?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

They still potentially get FTA games when they play away though. The Warriors very rarely get home games on FTA either because they fill those weird early foxtel timeslots. It’s not really a negative.

Perth vs Brisbane will draw shit ratings in Sydney, Melbourne and Perth. Perth vs Sydney draws shit ratings in Brisbane, Melbourne and Perth. Ch9 will probably broadcast 3 or 5 games at most. It'll be the least lucrative team in the NRL for them.

 

[Perth Red]

Which means that Perth's home games will be confined to Foxtel. A huge turn off for sponsors and Ch9. The Freshwater Strategies claim that Ch9 want this timeslot proves they're being paid by the WA Gov to tell bullshit. Of course Perth Red and Butthurtski bought into it hook, line and sinker.

Home games yes, thats the trade off. Hopefully we'll get plenty of away games on Ch9 to offset from a sponsors value point of view. clubs like NQ get very few home FTA games and hasnt stopped them having one of the richest corporate backings in the comp.

Where did he say that, you making sht up again?

 

[Perth Red]

You're a dumb f**k if you think Hull's population of 260k is equal to Brisbane's 2.8m.

You ridicule Sydney clubs for having a catchment of 300k, yet you're fine with Hull sharing two between 260k?

Broncos and Dolphins are the largest and richest rugby league clubs in the world.

V'landys has said Brisbane can support three teams. The broadcasters support a third Brisbane team. Abdo and V'landys said the Tigers and Jets are still a chance of getting an NRL licence.

No one from the NRL mentioned Perth until the WA Premier threw a tantrum at a media conference.

What does that tell you?

Youre a dumb merkin for not understanding the concept of context. Its the same context. Two successful top tier clubs in one city and no need for a third, same as Brisbane.

Face the fact NRL is not talking about Brisbane3, its not happening. Might as well quit the game now mate lol
Wb can give you some tips on how to follow AFL instead.

 

[Nutz]

Probably need to move to some sort of conference system with teams playing their own conference twice and the other conference once, or something like that. With 20 teams that’d give you 28 regular season games which is probably still too many, but obviously more manageable than the 38 you’d have playing everyone twice.
If you had four pools of teams and played your own pool twice and the others once that would work out to 23 regular season games. If you played your own pool once and one of the other pools twice you’d get 24 games, the same as now. The question is whether it’s possible to organise the pools so all the big rivalries get two games per season, or whether you just seed the pools each year based on the previous year’s table to make the competition as even as possible.

Geez my head hurts. What happened to the KISS method. 20 teams, play everyone twice, NO BYES, top 8 finals...simple.

 

[Maximus]

Who said profits don't count when a team is doing well, Maxipad?

You did

Going concern​

The Company has reported a profit of $37,750,983 for the year ended 31 October 2022 (2021: $25,337,691). As at 31 October 2022 the Company has Accumulated Funds of $53,446,210 (2021: $15,695,227) and a net current asset deficiency of $8,495,366 (2021: $4,132,787). The profit recorded in the 2022 year includes $35,125,700 (2021: $20,662,804) of grant income relating to the construction of the Training and Administration Facility, as required by accounting standards. This facility will be depreciated over its useful life which will impact future operating results.​

The ability of the Company to continue as a going concern including the ability to pay its debts as and when they fall due is dependent on the Company being able to successfully generate sufficient​

funds through membership, sponsorship, fundraising, gate receipts and other sources, and/or the continued financial support of the Australian Football League (“AFL”). If the Company is unable to successfully generate sufficient funding from these sources to continue its ongoing operations, there is a material uncertainty whether the Company will be able to continue as a going concern and be able to realise its assets and extinguish its liabilities in the normal course of business and at the amounts stated in the financial report.​

The financial statements have been prepared on a going concern basis which assumes the Company will continue its operations and be able to meet its obligations as and when they become due and payable.​

​

https://resources.lions.com.au/aflc-bl/document/2023/01/09/c78c8030-2fe6-4f4b-90dd-96c8af5f9a78/2022_Financial_Report.pdf

The debt was incurred when the club was anchored at the bottom of the ladder. They're currently enjoying a golden run of on field success. It's inevitable that the club will have another period of poor results. When it does the revenue it generates from football operations will fall significantly.



I've called you out as a troll on numerous occasions.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Geez my head hurts. What happened to the KISS method. 20 teams, play everyone twice, NO BYES, top 8 finals...simple.

Because you end up with a 38 week long season, plus breaks for origin, plus a finals series. That’s 45 weeks. Meaning you start the season in late January and finish in early December. Not remotely workable.

 

[Perth Red]

Id prefer you play everyone once and 5 teams of your choosing twice. That gives a 24 game season. Alternate home and away for the 19 games against everyone each season.

 

[Maximus]

Geez my head hurts. What happened to the KISS method. 20 teams, play everyone twice, NO BYES, top 8 finals...simple.

Good luck convincing players to play 38 rounds plus finals.

 

[Nutz]

Because you end up with a 38 week long season, plus breaks for origin, plus a finals series. That’s 45 weeks. Meaning you start the season in late January and finish in early December. Not remotely workable.

Sounds good to me. Most workers get 4 wks off a year plus public holidays. Sportspeople should be the same. Most don't play longer than 10-15years so they should go hard and get the dollars. Bring it on I say.
Footy all year round with no off season woohoo.

 

[Nutz]

Good luck convincing players to play 38 rounds plus finals.

Play or piss off.

 

[Nutz]

Id prefer you play everyone once and 5 teams of your choosing twice. That gives a 24 game season. Alternate home and away for the 19 games against everyone each season.

My tigers choose to play saints twice

 

[mongoose]

Your Hull analogy is dumb, which doesn't surprise me. The correct analogy would be if I was saying Hull should get a third SL team ahead of Toulouse or London because both current Hull clubs are A grade clubs.
It would be a dumb position to take and I wouldnt take it. You however want to see a third Brisbane club in before we go to new and potentially more lucrative growth markets.

Whilst the numbers look nice on paper the reality is NRl doesnt need or want a third Brisbane club, certainly not anytime in the foreseeable future. For all the talk of expansion from the NRl not once has it been about Brisbane3. Even PNG has pivoted from Cairns to Port Moresby after Vlandys trip to see the Cowboys. Dolphins and Broncos arent letting another competitior in anytime soon. Maybe club 21 or 22 in a couple of decades. Deal with it.

ah yes, just like his dumb argument that if Raiders fans want a Perth team so much, they should advocate for the hypothetical event of the Raiders relocating there lol, he's not very smart...

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Get Rid Of The Donkeys...I've called you out as a troll on numerous occasions.

Sounds good to me. Most workers get 4 wks off a year plus public holidays. Sportspeople should be the same. Most don't play longer than 10-15years so they should go hard and get the dollars. Bring it on I say.
Footy all year round with no off season woohoo.

Those career lifespans will halve with that workload. And so will the standard of footy.

 

[Nutz]

Those career lifespans will halve with that workload. And so will the standard of footy.

My coach used to put us in a sauna for five hours before a game, without water. Harden up I say!