18th club, whose next?

[RedVee]

C’mon guys, not the right thread for this stuff

 

[Maximus]

Meh pointing out how wrong donkey is is appropriate in any thread where he's calling other people arrogant know-it-alls. Not my fault he decided to show his racism and Sky News fandom in response.

 

[Canard]

No shitty politics in this thread, please

 

[Colk]

It wasn't shown to be "racist propaganda. There's a video of radical communist Thomas Mayo talking about "pay the rent" and "reparations".

Many Aborigines in Northern Territory didn't want it, FWIW. They make up 25% of the NT population. The ones who voted yes are communists like Thomas Mayo who believe non-indigenous Australians should "pay the rent".

Voice to Parliament architect addresses plan to 'pay the rent'

One of the architects of the Voice to Parliament has spoken about the proposal being the 'first step' towards reparations in unearthed video footage.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Mate you obviously don’t know what communism means so please stop talking nonsense. It is this stupid left vs right paradigm that people get stuck on - it’s a shame that you’re stuck in it.

Btw before you make a personal attack I did not vote in the referendum because I was oblivious to the whole thing. It is pretty much the same with all of social and political arguments - nobody is rational anymore and it is all whataboutism and concentration on fringe viewpoints.

 

[Colk]

No shitty politics in this thread, please

Amen

 

[Mother Nature's Son]

Mate you obviously don’t know what communism means so please stop talking nonsense. It is this stupid left vs right paradigm that people get stuck on - it’s a shame that you’re stuck in it.

Btw before you make a personal attack I did not vote in the referendum because I was oblivious to the whole thing. It is pretty much the same with all of social and political arguments - nobody is rational anymore and it is all whataboutism and concentration on fringe viewpoints.

I know you`re generalising mate, but it is out there you just have to wade through a lot of BS and immaturity to find it, not unlike on here unfortunately.

 

[Colk]

I know you`re generalising mate, but it is out there you just have to wade through a lot of BS and immaturity to find it, not unlike on here unfortunately.

True I am generalising but that point about Tony Mayo who is a union official (not a communist) and somehow using his position as some sort of a wider conspiracy about Aboriginals taking all their land back is kind of an embodiment of that.

As I said I was rather ambivalent about the whole thing - I don’t think it was very significant any which way you wanted to go - but arguments like that makes it hard for society at large to have sensible debates and actually work towards fixing a problem as significant as Aboriginal disadvantage.

 

[Mother Nature's Son]

True I am generalising but that point about Tony Mayo who is a union official (not a communist) and somehow using his position as some sort of a wider conspiracy about Aboriginals taking all their land back is kind of an embodiment of that.

As I said I was rather ambivalent about the whole thing - I don’t think it was very significant any which way you wanted to go - but arguments like that makes it hard for society at large to have sensible debates and actually work towards fixing a problem as significant as Aboriginal disadvantage.

Last thing I`ll say on this to stop derailing the thread, but when I said you were generalising I was referring to your "nobody is rational comment", not your argument.
My thoughts on it are people are generally bored with their lives and they want to be titillated, fringe viewpoints, partisanship (and the whataboutism that goes with that) and conspiracy theories alleviate some of that.

 

[Colk]

Last thing I`ll say on this to stop derailing the thread, but when I said you were generalising I was referring to your "nobody is rational comment", not your argument.
My thoughts on it are people are generally bored with their lives and they want to be titillated, fringe viewpoints, partisanship (and the whataboutism that goes with that) and conspiracy theories alleviate some of that.

Yeah good point.

 

[MugaB]

Meh pointing out how wrong donkey is is appropriate in any thread where he's calling other people arrogant know-it-alls. Not my fault he decided to show his racism and Sky News fandom in response.

Fk off you useless wart.... you're trolling here is completely off topic, i dont care if your talking shit to donkey nutz or not, the fact you keep flaming aboriginal politics and other trivial irrelevant garbage instead of actually talking expansion in some meaningful way

 

[Maximus]

Fk off you useless wart.... you're trolling here is completely off topic, i dont care if your talking shit to donkey nutz or not, the fact you keep flaming aboriginal politics and other trivial irrelevant garbage instead of actually talking expansion in some meaningful way

There is no meaningful talk about expansion, because you, donkey and wb1234 spend all your time attacking anyone who thinks PNG should not happen, attacking anyone who thinks there should be a Perth team, and talking shit about Hull. Anyone who wants to talk realistically about additional NZ teams gets called a union troll by your mate wb1234 and gobsmacked. Anyone who says there shouldn't be another Brisbane team yet gets called an afl fan who wants afl to take over Brisbane.

You're the biggest hypocrite here.

 

[Centy Coast]

Didn’t Albo move on from the YES Vote to NRL PNG ?.
Let’s talk potential expansion guys, if Albo can move on so can you.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Tony Mayo who is a union official (not a communist) and somehow using his position as some sort of a wider conspiracy about Aboriginals taking all their land back is kind of an embodiment of that.

Care to explain this?

Reid appeared alongside Thomas Mayo as guest speaker for the Search Foundation, which describes itself as the “successor organisation of the Communist Party of Australia”. At the seminar, which was held to commemorate the centenary of the founding of the Communist Party of Australia, she said:

“I think that what we need is to get back to these radical roots of the Communist Party.”

Meet Teela Reid: PM’s Voice architect fights to ‘abolish Australia Day’

Making you pay ‘reparations and compensation’ also on the agenda

www.fairaustralia.com.au

Why would Mayo attend a communist function alongside a communist if he's not a communist?

 

[blue bags]

Bring back Hunter Mariners from super league
And 2nd Canberra team
Both can get special juniors pathways from country feeder club's

 

[Canard]

Care to explain this?

Reid appeared alongside Thomas Mayo as guest speaker for the Search Foundation, which describes itself as the “successor organisation of the Communist Party of Australia”. At the seminar, which was held to commemorate the centenary of the founding of the Communist Party of Australia, she said:​

​

“I think that what we need is to get back to these radical roots of the Communist Party.”​

​

Meet Teela Reid: PM’s Voice architect fights to ‘abolish Australia Day’

Making you pay ‘reparations and compensation’ also on the agenda

www.fairaustralia.com.au

Why would Mayo attend a communist function alongside a communist if he's not a communist?

 

[MugaB]

There is no meaningful talk about expansion, because you, donkey and wb1234 spend all your time attacking anyone who thinks PNG should not happen, attacking anyone who thinks there should be a Perth team, and talking shit about Hull. Anyone who wants to talk realistically about additional NZ teams gets called a union troll by your mate wb1234 and gobsmacked. Anyone who says there shouldn't be another Brisbane team yet gets called an afl fan who wants afl to take over Brisbane.

You're the biggest hypocrite here.

Mate you can have an opinion, on the PNG bid, for or against, or Perth, but when dick for brains starts attacking the actual bids in favor for certain bid thats when the hypocrisies start, hence the hull talk gets brought up... you having an opinion is fine, but we can bring up holes in your argument, unfortunately your always a fkwit about it....

 

[Colk]

Care to explain this?

Reid appeared alongside Thomas Mayo as guest speaker for the Search Foundation, which describes itself as the “successor organisation of the Communist Party of Australia”. At the seminar, which was held to commemorate the centenary of the founding of the Communist Party of Australia, she said:​

​

“I think that what we need is to get back to these radical roots of the Communist Party.”​

​

Meet Teela Reid: PM’s Voice architect fights to ‘abolish Australia Day’

Making you pay ‘reparations and compensation’ also on the agenda

www.fairaustralia.com.au

Why would Mayo attend a communist function alongside a communist if he's not a communist?

This is your source yeah? https://www.fairaustralia.com.au/news

You don’t think to yourself that they may have an agenda? Same as if you got all your news from a Yes website.

Half the time (or more) the media arguments (because they are so petty and immature) are not about what your team (and I say team because media and politics is about as meaningful and well thought as a sport forum - the same language is used) does or says it is about what some bogeyman from the other side does or says and then extrapolating from that one person that everybody who agrees with that point of view is a such and such - a loony leftie, a right wing nut, a communist, a neo-Nazi etc. It’s boring and unedifying. This Thomas Mayo fellow might be a communist (if he is then he is an idiot) He might be misquoted - for instance what is the full context of what he said? Nonetheless I couldn’t give two f**** what one individual thinks about it. I’m sure he doesn’t speak or hold the same views as everybody who voted yes; the same as the other side and there were probably idiots who voted no as well.

About the Voice referendum in particular none of the arguments put forth by either side were in any way compelling. I didn’t care enough about it to vote at the time and I especially don’t care about it now.

Finally and without seemingly a moderator, this is a league forum by the way about 18th team announcements and not about some political referendum.

 

[Maximus]

Mate you can have an opinion, on the PNG bid, for or against, or Perth, but when dick for brains starts attacking the actual bids in favor for certain bid thats when the hypocrisies start, hence the hull talk gets brought up... you having an opinion is fine, but we can bring up holes in your argument, unfortunately your always a fkwit about it....

You justify bringing up some irrelevant UK city and then say other people act like a f**kwit? And you never have anything to say about your mates resorting to calling everyone a union/afl troll because they can't argue against what people are actually talking about.

Like I said, you're the biggest hypocrite here.

 

[Canard]

Mate you can have an opinion, on the PNG bid, for or against, or Perth, but when dick for brains starts attacking the actual bids in favor for certain bid thats when the hypocrisies start, hence the hull talk gets brought up... you having an opinion is fine, but we can bring up holes in your argument, unfortunately your always a fkwit about it....

Buy a mirror

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Mate you can have an opinion, on the PNG bid, for or against, or Perth, but when dick for brains starts attacking the actual bids in favor for certain bid thats when the hypocrisies start, hence the hull talk gets brought up... you having an opinion is fine, but we can bring up holes in your argument, unfortunately your always a fkwit about it....

Perth Red and Maxipad are exposing their hypocrisy in this thread. They're against Albo's plan to spend $60m per annum on PNG to build infrastructure that will improve lives and create rugby league pathways, but they think not enough is spent on the dozens of government funded agencies that already exist for Aboriginals.

A quick Google proves the amount Albo is planning on providing PNG is peanuts compared to what is spent on Aboriginals.

The Australian Government directly spends around 1.5 times as much on Indigenous people on a per-capita basis, or 1.64 times as much if indirect spending (via transfers to the states and territories) is included (calculation based on IER 2017 supplementary data tables). In 2015–16, the Australian Government directly spent $14.7 billion on Indigenous people, of which 77 per cent ($11.3 billion) was through mainstream programs such as Medicare, social security payments, child care benefits and support for university places accessed by Indigenous people. Around 23 per cent ($3.3 billion) was on Indigenous-specific programs such as ABSTUDY, Indigenous-specific health programs, or Indigenous rangers programs. When state and territory government spending is included, mainstream spending climbs to over 80 per cent of the total expenditure on Indigenous people.

Indigenous affairs overview

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www.aph.gov.au

The Aboriginal population is about 400k. There's anywhere between 10-18m people in PNG.