18th club, whose next?

[MugaB]

A PNG NRL team is unsustainable.

Change my mind.

Nah... its a great idea, Karen, tell me another hundred times how you hate PNG or the fact they might be based in your precious homeland Cairns

 

[Colk]

Colk gotta stop replying to the trolls and they'll stop reposting the retort to the same subject

Fair enough. Pretty gullible

 

[Vlad59]

Fair enough. Pretty gullible

These threads have turned into Perth Red v GROTD trolling competition

 

[Centy Coast]

Perth Red and Maxipad are exposing their hypocrisy in this thread. They're against Albo's plan to spend $60m per annum on PNG to build infrastructure that will improve lives and create rugby league pathways, but they think not enough is spent on the dozens of government funded agencies that already exist for Aboriginals.

A quick Google proves the amount Albo is planning on providing PNG is peanuts compared to what is spent on Aboriginals.

The Australian Government directly spends around 1.5 times as much on Indigenous people on a per-capita basis, or 1.64 times as much if indirect spending (via transfers to the states and territories) is included (calculation based on IER 2017 supplementary data tables). In 2015–16, the Australian Government directly spent $14.7 billion on Indigenous people, of which 77 per cent ($11.3 billion) was through mainstream programs such as Medicare, social security payments, child care benefits and support for university places accessed by Indigenous people. Around 23 per cent ($3.3 billion) was on Indigenous-specific programs such as ABSTUDY, Indigenous-specific health programs, or Indigenous rangers programs. When state and territory government spending is included, mainstream spending climbs to over 80 per cent of the total expenditure on Indigenous people.​

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Indigenous affairs overview

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www.aph.gov.au

The Aboriginal population is about 400k. There's anywhere between 10-18m people in PNG.

I’d rather see Aust tax payers dollars spent on actual Australians not foreigners from another Country.
If that sounds rascist, I don’t give a shit.

 

[Centy Coast]

A PNG NRL team is unsustainable.

Change my mind.

Justin Olam said exactly the same thing, and he would know more than most.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I’d rather see Aust tax payers dollars spent on actual Australians not foreigners from another Country.
If that sounds rascist, I don’t give a shit.

There's nothing racist about your comment.

I'm not a huge fan of foreign aid being spent on other countries, but if it helps rugby league grow its footprint then I won't be against it.

I'd rather see $20m go towards growing rugby league in PNG than having it spent on fumbleball in Queensland. That night be petty of me, but it's how I feel and I don't apologise for it. I hate fumbleball.

 

[Maximus]

A PNG NRL team is unsustainable.

Change my mind.

Even the only 2 supporters it has left won't say it is. They want it solely so they can jerk off while they post on bigfooty about how much govt money the NRL got, but then they will disappear when it turns out a bigger money pit than gws and gold coast combined.

At least donkey finally admitted it.

 

[taste2taste]

A PNG NRL team is unsustainable.

Change my mind.

It would give teams another bye round. They could just send thier NSW Cup team to get the win.

 

[Vlad59]

Even the only 2 supporters it has left won't say it is. They want it solely so they can jerk off while they post on bigfooty about how much govt money the NRL got, but then they will disappear when it turns out a bigger money pit than gws and gold coast combined.

At least donkey finally admitted it.

You two are cute!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

No one on here said the PNG bid stacks up financially without Gov funding. Some of us are happy to see our game get the sort of special treatment that's usually reserved for fumbleball and rugby union. Look at it as a glass half full. We've now got development programs being set up in PNG that didn’t exist a year ago. Only time will tell if they lead to more NRL players from PNG, but it's a start and something we should be praising the ARLC and Albo for pulling it off. I'm grateful to a have PM that actually cares about our game.

 

[Canard]

Why are people claiming the ARLC have set up development programs in PNG?

They haven't, and this is nothing to do with Albo either.

 

[blue bags]

When Canberra stadium gets rebuilt
2nd Canberra team can enter NRL
Canberra capitals
Or Canberra commander's
Canberra senator's
A live game in Canberra every weekend
Under a brand new roofed stadium
The local fans would love it
Fantastic

 

[Perth Red]

Attacking the man are we, hypocrite

I wasnt attacking you, I was asking you why you bother wasting your time on here when you clearly don’t enjoy the conversations that happen here.

 

[Perth Red]

2 critical areas of viability that remain major concern with PNG.

1. ability to generate revenue if and when govt money runs out
2. ability to put together a competitive team

in response to the nrl club bosses overwhelming not wanting png as club 18 vlandys replied with ‘they don’t know what we know’. Be interesting to know what they know!

 

[xe_kilroy]

Not sure if it means PNG are already inked in as the 18th or not .... a work colleague of mine applied for a job listing for "PNG NRL" as a talent scout. That was a few months ago. Said he didn't get the job as a lot of former NRL players had applied, were encouraged to apply.

Could be a job for a 19th or 20th franchise, setting up the foundations years ahead.

Could be a job "in lieu of" PNG getting an NRL license.

Could be a job for the NRL itself working in PNG rather than for PNG NRL as such.

He didn't really explain or know either when I asked.

 

[blue bags]

Not sure if it means PNG are already inked in as the 18th or not .... a work colleague of mine applied for a job listing for "PNG NRL" as a talent scout. That was a few months ago. Said he didn't get the job as a lot of former NRL players had applied, were encouraged to apply.

Could be a job for a 19th or 20th franchise, setting up the foundations years ahead.

Could be a job "in lieu of" PNG getting an NRL license.

Could be a job for the NRL itself working in PNG rather than for PNG NRL as such.

He didn't really explain or know either when I asked.

That's right. That's what I heard aswell
Brisbane sabres tooth tigers
Pasifika Grizzlies Bear's
Southern orcas
Are very excited to be involved

 

[MugaB]

I wasnt attacking you, I was asking you why you bother wasting your time on here when you clearly don’t enjoy the conversations that happen here.

18th club thread

 

[mongoose]

When Canberra stadium gets rebuilt
2nd Canberra team can enter NRL
Canberra capitals
Or Canberra commander's
Canberra senator's
A live game in Canberra every weekend
Under a brand new roofed stadium
The local fans would love it
Fantastic

well... at least you're on topic

 

[cinders7]

2 critical areas of viability that remain major concern with PNG.

1. ability to generate revenue if and when govt money runs out
2. ability to put together a competitive team

in response to the nrl club bosses overwhelming not wanting png as club 18 vlandys replied with ‘they don’t know what we know’. Be interesting to know what they know!

1. The funding for this team isn't in addition to what we already give as aid to PNG. It's the PNG government asking to redirect a fraction of the existing aid. It's the simplest part of the plan. No-one is going to decrease aid funding to PNG in the next fifty years & no Aussie PM will want to known as the person who killed a club in the NRL. ~$60M a year is a rounding error for what the fed gov will get out of it.

2. How many young men/women work for a couple of years in the mines in harsher conditions? The players will be living/training in Cairns and have unheard-of amounts of fan support when they're playing at home. If the players/staff for this club get tax free status as has been discussed, it'd be a huge incentive.
That's not to hand-wave away that they will probably struggle to win initially but that's the point of expanding/strengthening the game, is it not?

I don't think you have much to worry about as a Perth (or Christchurch) fan. Both are guaranteed of being a success (good stadiums, new markets/corp support, new timezones, will increase media rights). It'll likely be BNE3 that is postponed if PNG gets the nod.

 

[Canard]

1. The funding for this team isn't in addition to what we already give as aid to PNG. It's the PNG government asking to redirect a fraction of the existing aid. It's the simplest part of the plan. No-one is going to decrease aid funding to PNG in the next fifty years & no Aussie PM will want to known as the person who killed a club in the NRL. ~$60M a year is a rounding error for what the fed gov will get out of it.

2. How many young men/women work for a couple of years in the mines in harsher conditions? The players will be living/training in Cairns and have unheard-of amounts of fan support when they're playing at home. If the players/staff for this club get tax free status as has been discussed, it'd be a huge incentive.
That's not to hand-wave away that they will probably struggle to win initially but that's the point of expanding/strengthening the game, is it not?

I don't think you have much to worry about as a Perth (or Christchurch) fan. Both are guaranteed of being a success (good stadiums, new markets/corp support, new timezones, will increase media rights). It'll likely be BNE3 that is postponed if PNG gets the nod.

That would literally be taking money away from schools, infrastructure, medical aid, etc etc. That would be a PR disaster.

Governments of all persuasions make funding decisions that affect sports (see Brisbane Olympics, NSW stadiums), that have very little resonance with the electorate.