18th club, whose next?

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

This is your source yeah? https://www.fairaustralia.com.au/news

You don’t think to yourself that they may have an agenda? Same as if you got all your news from a Yes website.

Of course they have an agenda. It doesn't change the fact there's video footage of Mayo and Reid making the statements that were quoted by Fair Australia.

Half the time (or more) the media arguments (because they are so petty and immature) are not about what your team (and I say team because media and politics is about as meaningful and well thought as a sport forum - the same language is used) does or says it is about what some bogeyman from the other side does or says and then extrapolating from that one person that everybody who agrees with that point of view is a such and such - a loony leftie, a right wing nut, a communist, a neo-Nazi etc. It’s boring and unedifying. This Thomas Mayo fellow might be a communist (if he is then he is an idiot) He might be misquoted - for instance what is the full context of what he said? Nonetheless I couldn’t give two f**** what one individual thinks about it. I’m sure he doesn’t speak or hold the same views as everybody who voted yes; the same as the other side and there were probably idiots who voted no as well.

He wasn't misquoted. There's video footage of him making comments about "pay the rent" and "reparations".

About the Voice referendum in particular none of the arguments put forth by either side were in any way compelling. I didn’t care enough about it to vote at the time and I especially don’t care about it now.

I voted no because I didn't see how it would improve the lives of disadvantaged Aborigines in Alice Springs and other areas of remote Australia. The billions that are spent each year on the dozens of Aboriginal agencies never find their way to the people who need it the most. ATSIC was shut down due to the money they received being wasted on employees while people who needed it live in squalor. Ian Pilger made a film exposing the rort years ago.

Finally and without seemingly a moderator, this is a league forum by the way about 18th team announcements and not about some political referendum.

Yet you've made several comments about communism and Mayo, both in response to me and another user.

 

[Maximus]

Perth Red and Maxipad are exposing their hypocrisy in this thread. They're against Albo's plan to spend $60m per annum on PNG to build infrastructure that will improve lives and create rugby league pathways, but they think not enough is spent on the dozens of government funded agencies that already exist for Aboriginals.

A quick Google proves the amount Albo is planning on providing PNG is peanuts compared to what is spent on Aboriginals.

The Australian Government directly spends around 1.5 times as much on Indigenous people on a per-capita basis, or 1.64 times as much if indirect spending (via transfers to the states and territories) is included (calculation based on IER 2017 supplementary data tables). In 2015–16, the Australian Government directly spent $14.7 billion on Indigenous people, of which 77 per cent ($11.3 billion) was through mainstream programs such as Medicare, social security payments, child care benefits and support for university places accessed by Indigenous people. Around 23 per cent ($3.3 billion) was on Indigenous-specific programs such as ABSTUDY, Indigenous-specific health programs, or Indigenous rangers programs. When state and territory government spending is included, mainstream spending climbs to over 80 per cent of the total expenditure on Indigenous people.​

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Indigenous affairs overview

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www.aph.gov.au

The Aboriginal population is about 400k. There's anywhere between 10-18m people in PNG.

Australian taxpayer money being spent on Australians vs Australian taxpayer money spent on a sporting team in a foreign country. I wonder what the difference is you dumb, racist merkin.

 

[Vlad59]

wtf has the voice to do with this discussion? Ffs stay on topic

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Australian taxpayer money being spent on Australians vs Australian taxpayer money spent on a sporting team in a foreign country. I wonder what the difference is you dumb, racist merkin.

You've argued for months that the $60m ain't going towards an NRL team you f**ken idiot.

Now you're claiming all $60m is going towards the NRL team?

You're full of shit and just like to troll.

Once again you've brought the race card into it. When you're not using the race card you're using the gender card.

If you care so much about women and Aboriginals, why aren't you speaking out about the epidemic of violence against Aboriginal women in remote Australia?

The one person who does bring attention to this subject is Jacinta Price. She's subjected to rape and death threats on social media by Aboriginal men for speaking up. Much of the abuse she cops from Aboriginal men is racist, too.

 

[Canard]

f**k off with the shitty US imported culture wars.

Anyone that responds to @Get Rid of The Donkeys about it, is just as much to blame.

PNG is objectively a bad idea, change my mind

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

PNG has a lot of flaws, but at least the ARLC is showing some initiative and trying to expand the game into a new market. Development programs have been created in PNG over the last 12 months to improve the running of the game at all levels. This is a good thing, regardless of whether it leads to PNG getting an NRL licence.

Canard is whinging about it and making sardonic responses because that's what he does. He's the Daria of this forum.

Perth Red is whinging about it because Perth isn't the beneficiary.

Maxipad is whinging about it because he's an obnoxious troll who likes to stir the pot.

 

[Canard]

The ARLC haven't shown any initiative. This idea is all led by the Feds.

It wouldn't even be a topic of discussion, if the promise of free money wasn't involved.

Change my mind, without childish personal attacks that aren't related to the topic.

 

[mongoose]

Why has PNG produced so few NRL players so far? I find it strange that the NRL is so bullish about putting a team in a place that already loves Rugby League but has no track record of producing NRL quality players. Is having their own NRL team going to change that?

 

[Canard]

Why has PNG produced so few NRL players so far? I find it strange that the NRL is so bullish about putting a team in a place that already loves Rugby League but has no track record of producing NRL quality players. Is having their own NRL team going to change that?

Fiji has produced far more, for example.

I'm 1000% behind development of RL in PNG, but an NRL team is a disaster of an idea

 

[Vlad59]

I’m picking up a vibe here that some people don’t think PNG is viable. Is it just me? Seeing 10000 posts saying this same thing on three or four different threads tends to validate my feelings but, hell, I might be wrong.

 

[Perth Red]

Fiji has produced far more, for example.

I'm 1000% behind development of RL in PNG, but an NRL team is a disaster of an idea

Yep, this, spend as much as they want on schools programs and development pathways, sht I’d love to see digicell cup be funded to go pro, that would have ten times the impact one nrl team in Port Moresby will have on local economy and the dreams of rl players.
until png can show it can be viable based in PNG and without much govt money then it shouldn’t even be considered, imo

 

[MugaB]

Change my mind, without childish personal attacks that aren't related to the topic.

Hahaha buy a mirror ffs, you're one of the biggest trolls here on the expansion threads
The salt from you three morons is so unbelievable shallow

There's plenty of posters here who'll agree that they aren't in the PNG25bid camp and think itsa bad idea and theyll say their peace and move on, but the carry on from you guys is endless I'd say there is about 1/2 of this thread and 1/2 of the Png thread just of carnard, PR and maxipad crapping on about how they dislike the bid on an endless loop, mate get a better hobby

 

[Colk]

Of course they have an agenda. It doesn't change the fact there's video footage of Mayo and Reid making the statements that were quoted by Fair Australia.



He wasn't misquoted. There's video footage of him making comments about "pay the rent" and "reparations".



I voted no because I didn't see how it would improve the lives of disadvantaged Aborigines in Alice Springs and other areas of remote Australia. The billions that are spent each year on the dozens of Aboriginal agencies never find their way to the people who need it the most. ATSIC was shut down due to the money they received being wasted on employees while people who needed it live in squalor. Ian Pilger made a film exposing the rort years ago.



Yet you've made several comments about communism and Mayo, both in response to me and another user.

You should read/listen to reports rather than opinion pieces.

I made the comment because you have shown yourself to not understand communism in the past and mainly because we shouldn’t be talking about communism or the Voice referendum on a 18th team page (because it has no relevance)

If he is a communist he is a f***** idiot; same as a neo-Nazi is a f****** idiot. Hence we shouldn’t give him the time of the day

 

[Colk]

PNG has a lot of flaws, but at least the ARLC is showing some initiative and trying to expand the game into a new market. Development programs have been created in PNG over the last 12 months to improve the running of the game at all levels. This is a good thing, regardless of whether it leads to PNG getting an NRL licence.

Canard is whinging about it and making sardonic responses because that's what he does. He's the Daria of this forum.

Perth Red is whinging about it because Perth isn't the beneficiary.

Maxipad is whinging about it because he's an obnoxious troll who likes to stir the pot.

Agree with that point

 

[Perth Red]

Hahaha buy a mirror ffs, you're one of the biggest trolls here on the expansion threads
The salt from you three morons is so unbelievable shallow
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There's plenty of posters here who'll agree that they aren't in the PNG25bid camp and think itsa bad idea and theyll say their peace and move on, but the carry on from you guys is endless I'd say there is about 1/2 of this thread and 1/2 of the Png thread just of carnard, PR and maxipad crapping on about how they dislike the bid on an endless loop, mate get a better hobby

Again you type so much and say nothing. At least we got a shtty pic, well done. You obviously dont enjoy being on this forum so why spend so much time here? It’s a little bit sad.

 

[Canard]

Hahaha buy a mirror ffs, you're one of the biggest trolls here on the expansion threads
The salt from you three morons is so unbelievable shallow
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There's plenty of posters here who'll agree that they aren't in the PNG25bid camp and think itsa bad idea and theyll say their peace and move on, but the carry on from you guys is endless I'd say there is about 1/2 of this thread and 1/2 of the Png thread just of carnard, PR and maxipad crapping on about how they dislike the bid on an endless loop, mate get a better hobby

Yet another post ignoring the topic at hand, and only making personal attacks.

 

[Vlad59]

Again you type so much and say nothing. At least we got a shtty pic, well done. You obviously dont enjoy being on this forum so why spend so much time here? It’s a little bit sad.

Jesus effing Christ! Pot kettle or what?

 

[MugaB]

You should read/listen to reports rather than opinion pieces.

I made the comment because you have shown yourself to not understand communism in the past and mainly because we shouldn’t be talking about communism or the Voice referendum on a 18th team page (because it has no relevance)

If he is a communist he is a f***** idiot; same as a neo-Nazi is a f****** idiot. Hence we shouldn’t give him the time of the day

Colk gotta stop replying to the trolls and they'll stop reposting the retort to the same subject

 

[Canard]

A PNG NRL team is unsustainable.

Change my mind.

 

[MugaB]

Again you type so much and say nothing. At least we got a shtty pic, well done. You obviously dont enjoy being on this forum so why spend so much time here? It’s a little bit sad.

Attacking the man are we, hypocrite