18th club, whose next?

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

None of that stuff would bother U if U could establish a case for Perth expansion beyond "every other code has done it" & "it'll make NRL national" (forgetting South Australia & Tasmania are missing)..

I'd like to hear mongoose explain why a team in Perth will make the NRL "national", despite having no presence in Adelaide and Hobart.

 

[Pippen94]

I'd like to hear mongoose explain why a team in Perth will make the NRL "national", despite having no presence in Adelaide and Hobart.

.. there's no case for Perth because team won't make NRL money. Fact league looking at PNG before should tell everybody Perth will never happen..

 

[jim_57]

Something U invented & are citing like it's an actual thing..

You think Cairns is above any of those I mentioned?

Try harder.

 

[Maximus]

Story today about Valemei's car stolen and torched because he didn't lock his screen door as well.

I am so glad that every NRL team is in 100% safe areas

Yeah you're right, someone getting their car stolen is pretty much the same as 22 people getting murdered.

 

[Pippen94]

You think Cairns is above any of those I mentioned?

Try harder.

There's no list. NRL want PNG: do U think that was top on a list?! Location is merely one factor. Money team brings to game is more important.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

.. there's no case for Perth because team won't make NRL money. Fact league looking at PNG before should tell everybody Perth will never happen..

Perth will relybon the heartland for players and money over many decades before it bears fruit. It also runs the risk of weakening the Storm.

PNG's bid is controversial because there's so much riding on it. On the one hand it will benefit rugby league in the only country that holds the game as its national sport. On the other hand there's the potential for PNG's political instability to cause massive problems for the NRL and Aus Gov.

Do you think V'landys and Albo will go ahead with the PNG bid?

If they do add PNG then it will be the most courageous and riskiest expansion in the history of Australian sport.

 

[The Great Dane]

what fight? GROTD just repeats himself over and over and you and wb just make up rubbish to support him

This.

There's no genuine discussion to be had around here anymore, just a handful of terminally online whack jobs playing pigeon chess. It's mundane, and there're better places in which to discuss this stuff with genuine people.

Also RL as a whole just isn't that interesting at the moment.

The quality of the product on the pitch is the worst it's been in living memory. Somehow in the space of a single offseason the NRL managed to neuter the closest and most competitive competition on the planet, where any team could beat any other on their day, replace it with repetitive mindless sludge, and hypnotise the majority of people involved in the sport into believing that that's somehow a good development.

Off the field RL's doing what it's always done after bumbling into a golden period; the old guard is going out of it's way to chase off any outside interest and investment in the sport for fear of losing control, and stepping on as many rakes as possible in the process.

There's very strong early 00s RU vibes around the joint frankly. Obviously it's not completely analogous, but they're making very similar mistakes for very similar reasons.

 

[Canard]

We know it's not happening in 2025, and by March we will know what's likely to be in the FY26+ budget.

If it's not on that list it's not happening anytime soon.

It's hilarious that all the Albo fan boys have a hard on for PNG and love a bit of govt pork barrelling.

 

[Pippen94]

Perth will relybon the heartland for players and money over many decades before it bears fruit. It also runs the risk of weakening the Storm.

PNG's bid is controversial because there's so much riding on it. On the one hand it will benefit rugby league in the only country that holds the game as its national sport. On the other hand there's the potential for PNG's political instability to cause massive problems for the NRL and Aus Gov.

Do you think V'landys and Albo will go ahead with the PNG bid?

If they do add PNG then it will be the most courageous and riskiest expansion in the history of Australian sport.

if PNG happens feds pay for everything & NRL gets paid too. I don't know if it happens.

Others here with only a rudimentary understanding of expansion; location is pretty much irrelevant. PNG was never a spot NRL would consider, but because of cash is frontrunner..

 

[Pippen94]

This.

There's no genuine discussion to be had around here anymore, just a handful of terminally online whack jobs playing pigeon chess. It's mundane, and there're better places in which to discuss this stuff with genuine people.

Also RL as a whole just isn't that interesting at the moment.

The quality of the product on the pitch is the worst it's been in living memory. Somehow in the space of a single offseason the NRL managed to neuter the closest and most competitive competition on the planet, where any team could beat any other on their day, replace it with repetitive mindless sludge, and hypnotise the majority of people involved in the sport into believing that that's somehow a good development.

Off the field RL's doing what it's always done after bumbling into a golden period; the old guard is going out of it's way to chase off any outside interest and investment in the sport for fear of losing control, and stepping on as many rakes as possible in the process.

There's very strong early 00s RU vibes around the joint frankly. Obviously it's not completely analogous, but they're making very similar mistakes for very similar reasons.

Lol - coz rugby didn't devalue it's club competition & set up plastic teams outside of it's heartland to become national?!

 

[jim_57]

There's no list. NRL want PNG: do U think that was top on a list?! Location is merely one factor. Money team brings to game is more important.

Feel free to argue the point of how a standalone Cairns team will bring more money or is a more desirable location than any of the options I mentioned, or listed even.

 

[Pippen94]

Feel free to argue the point of how a standalone Cairns team will bring more money or is a more desirable location than any of the options I mentioned, or listed even.

locations are irrelevant..

 

[Canard]

Feel free to argue the point of how a standalone Cairns team will bring more money or is a more desirable location than any of the options I mentioned, or listed even.

Heck, I'd like to see an argument about how Cairns would be more desirable then any other major Australian population centre >150k.

And then one about why any govt would invest $350M plus in the infrastructure for said team.

 

[jim_57]

locations are irrelevant..

How’s it going to bring more money than those options then?

Pretty relevant if the population of that location is 170k and that small population support a team already.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

This.

There's no genuine discussion to be had around here anymore, just a handful of terminally online whack jobs playing pigeon chess. It's mundane, and there're better places in which to discuss this stuff with genuine people.

Also RL as a whole just isn't that interesting at the moment.

The quality of the product on the pitch is the worst it's been in living memory. Somehow in the space of a single offseason the NRL managed to neuter the closest and most competitive competition on the planet, where any team could beat any other on their day, replace it with repetitive mindless sludge, and hypnotise the majority of people involved in the sport into believing that that's somehow a good development.

Off the field RL's doing what it's always done after bumbling into a golden period; the old guard is going out of it's way to chase off any outside interest and investment in the sport for fear of losing control, and stepping on as many rakes as possible in the process.

There's very strong early 00s RU vibes around the joint frankly. Obviously it's not completely analogous, but they're making very similar mistakes for very similar reasons.

You need help mate.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

if PNG happens feds pay for everything & NRL gets paid too. I don't know if it happens.

Others here with only a rudimentary understanding of expansion; location is pretty much irrelevant. PNG was never a spot NRL would consider, but because of cash is frontrunner..

I'm happy for PNG to get the licence provided there's a contract between the ARLC and Aus Gov. Without the funding it is unviable. With the funding it will give our game the sort of boost that's usually reserved for fumbleball. I'm happy for RL fans in PNG to see their dream come true.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Lol - coz rugby didn't devalue it's club competition & set up plastic teams outside of it's heartland to become national?!

Dane is only happy when he's being a pessimistic old prick and speaking nonsense.

RU expanded into Perth and Melbourne. Dane says that's the same as the NRL not expanding into Adelaide and Perth. I'm buggered if I know how he worked that one out.

The game is more exciting now than it was when Greenberg was in charge. Dane says it's boring. Ratings and attendances suggest most people don't agree with him.

 

[The Great Dane]

Lol - coz rugby didn't devalue it's club competition & set up plastic teams outside of it's heartland to become national?!

Nothing to do with "plastic teams" or "heartlands".

In pursuit of instant success and short term financial gain a small group of elites unilaterally chose to sell the sport out to broadcaster and international interests, knowingly undermining the grassroots, local development, and local professional teams/league in the process.

Naturally those interest groups bailed as soon as they'd sucked as many resources out of the sport in Australia as possible, leaving the sport behind in a complete mess. Compounding the issue is the fact that multiple generations of RU's leadership in this country has been too weak to do what is necessary and simply amputate the dead limbs, instead leaving them to fester and, surprisingly quickly, take the rest of the sport down with them for fear of ruffling some feathers.

BTW, given your expressed attitudes you definitely would have been amongst the seals who unwittingly clapped the ARU on while it committed suicide.

 

[Pippen94]

How’s it going to bring more money than those options then?

Pretty relevant if the population of that location is 170k and that small population support a team already.

FEDS ARE PAYING FOR TEAM!!

 

[The Great Dane]

You need help mate.

Dane is only happy when he's being a pessimistic old prick and speaking nonsense.

RU expanded into Perth and Melbourne. Dane says that's the same as the NRL not expanding into Adelaide and Perth. I'm buggered if I know how he worked that one out.

The game is more exciting now than it was when Greenberg was in charge. Dane says it's boring. Ratings and attendances suggest most people don't agree with him.

Pigeon chess like always.

You'd be able to contend with what I'd said in an honest and serious manner if what I'd said was such nonsense. . .

BTW, your first sentence is a poor attempt at poisoning the well, your second is a bland strawman, your third is a very simplistic argumentum ad populum. There're some more logical fallacies for you to learn from me and use incorrectly against others in the future.