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18th club, whose next?

Matt_CBY

Juniors
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I had a chuckle. Any comments on the Storm’s success relying on feeder arrangements or is that too hard for you to respond intelligently to?

Looks like you’re getting confused as to what conversation you are happening with whom.

I haven’t engaged on the Storm feeder club arrangement.

If you want my opinion on that, I would suggest that starting a club for the 1998 season using the nucleus of two recently defunct teams playing squads and then mostly investing in QLD pathways to attract players to Melbourne at a time when QLD only had two NRL clubs is a completely different environment to setting a club up 30 years later to be the 18th franchise on the other side of the continent.
 

Iamback

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Melbourne have managed to survive and thrive with a feeder arrangement. Could you explain why Perth won’t?

3 teams folded and became them - So they had a decent pool of players. Perth won't get that

They also recieved extra funding early on - Again something Perth won't here.

Also Storm were never about getting Victorians into the NRL. it was having a team down there.

Using the articles from yesterday Perth Stand alone is about getting locals into the team. For that you can't just chuck them on a plane and hope the feeder club does that correctly.

Now a question for you. If the feeder system works so well. Why did the Storm start fielding a Flegg team in 2019 and now added a u17's, u19's to that?
 

Wb1234

Immortal
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3 teams folded and became them - So they had a decent pool of players. Perth won't get that

They also recieved extra funding early on - Again something Perth won't here.

Also Storm were never about getting Victorians into the NRL. it was having a team down there.

Using the articles from yesterday Perth Stand alone is about getting locals into the team. For that you can't just chuck them on a plane and hope the feeder club does that correctly.

Now a question for you. If the feeder system works so well. Why did the Storm start fielding a Flegg team in 2019 and now added a u17's, u19's to that?
They saw how Penrith had changed the landmark in rugby league and wanted to catch up
 

Iamback

Referee
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Good point.

After 30 years or so, maybe Perth can start their own elite pathways too.

Or, you know, do it a bit sooner.

Can't see how that is some sort of "gotcha"

There is no gotcha at all. It is about showing how dumb or naive to think it works without an East Coast presence.

Say the reports about then being next in is correct.

They go to this years schoolboy carnival to sign kids like every club does. What is going to give them the best chance to actually get kids?

'We want to sign you, do you mind leaving family and friends and finishing school in Perth'

Or

'we want to sign you, You won't have to come over yet. Stay here play with our team here ( insert team)

That is why a partnership not feeder team is needed
 

Vlad59

Bench
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3 teams folded and became them - So they had a decent pool of players. Perth won't get that

They also recieved extra funding early on - Again something Perth won't here.

Also Storm were never about getting Victorians into the NRL. it was having a team down there.

Using the articles from yesterday Perth Stand alone is about getting locals into the team. For that you can't just chuck them on a plane and hope the feeder club does that correctly.

Now a question for you. If the feeder system works so well. Why did the Storm start fielding a Flegg team in 2019 and now added a u17's, u19's to that?
The Storm are doing now what they should have done 25 years ago. Building pathways. I’ve said this consistently. Your opposition to Perth is typical east coast denial. It’s views like yours that will always argue for a small game. There is nothing stopping a feeder arrangement into Perth that does not require a joint venture other than your own biased view. Perth is a huge win for the game and they should be team 18. Melbournes pathways are a result of the nrl finally understanding that they matter and they are paying dividends. A Perth team will feed off those lessons and will be self sufficient far quicker as a result. And the government is backing them 100% I’m happy never to agree with you about this because you have a narrow vision and you are wrong.
 

siv

First Grade
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Not sure you understand how the cap works. Nrl Clubs carry a 30 man first team roster. Beyond That a nsw or qlnd cup partnership club can carry non perth nrl rostered players, like bears are carrying Kurt Not souths.

theres nothing stopping a Perth nrl club giving 6 nrlwa clubs $100k say each to host a couple of 20-25 year old east coasters, kiwis or English lads in their squads and put themselves in the perth nrl clubs window.
Needs to revert to 40 man squad

And then everyone runs a NRL Reserve Grade on game day

Gets rid of all of this nonsense
 

Dragonwest

Juniors
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Norths aren't going to vote themselves into oblivion, so they will want to have some form of controlling stake in any bid.

For that reason alone, they aren't a viable partner.

A feeder relationship is all thats needed.
Junior partner in a joint venture.

North Sydney would remain and still have control of their juniors and NSW Cup side.

All major decisions to do with the NRL side will come from the Perth side as the major stake holder.

Just like St George did with their merger you write in clauses that protect the name and colours of the team to protect the Bear's History.
 
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