18th team will be logan ipswich

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It will be easts jets merger

Tigers refused to merge with the Jets in 2020.

 

[MugaB]

There's too much self-interest and delusions of grandeur within the Sydney RL landscape to do what needs to be done.

We've got the North Sydney Bears demanding a spot in the NRL as a Sydney club despite the market and administration telling them there's no room for them. They have a golden opportunity to re-enter the NRL by relocating to Adelaide and Perth, but they won't take it because they think they're entitled to come back as the North Sydney Bears and play out of North Sydney Oval.

If a team that hasn't played in the NRL since 1999 won't accept the realities of the market then there's f**k-all chance of St George or Cronulla getting a clue.

St George and cronulla getting a clue? Huh? So your saying that both of them are thinking about handing their licence in to basically dissolve, because in your hick mind they aren't worthy of 2 licenses in the southern sydney area??? And also that Norths are "demanding" a license too.... FMD delusional much...

No club in their right mind gives up a 1st grade license ever... hell logan doesn't even have a team in any comp how the f**k are they even going to get a license, better off betting on that aircraft carrier stadium again

Norths will have to bid just like everyone else, they have agendas, but they aren't demanding shìt, not to the Arlc anyways, and they are the only voice that counts

 

[Pneuma]

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Check the number of Victorian juniors in the squad. Expansion works. It just takes time.

 

[Pneuma]

St geoege and cronulla getting a clue? Huh? So your saying that both of them are thinking about handing their licence in to basically dissolve, because in your hick mind they are worthy of 2 licenses in the southern sydney area??? And also that Norths are "demanding" a license too.... FMD delusional much...

No club in their right mind gives up a 1st grade license ever... hell logan doesn't even have a team in any comp how the f**k are they even going to get a license, better off betting on that aircraft carrier stadium again

Norths will have to bid just like everyone else, they have agendas, but they aren't demanding shìt, not to the Arlc anyways, and they are the only voice that counts

My mum used to say ‘never argue with an idiot’. He is an idiot.

 

[Pippen94]

Tigers refused to merge with the Jets in 2020.

It will happen because team will go straight in if they follow peter v's lead & merge

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yup. There's the crux of the issue there.

The Sharks are an isolated enclave, keeping the Dragons from being a super-regional club that covers the Illawarra region AND Southern Sydney.

Moving one (and to be honest, most straightforward would probably be the Sharks, as the Dragons are closest to being that super-regional club) would de-clutter Sydney a bit AND enable expansion without having to increase the competition size.

A move to Adelaide (for example) means we could have the current 17 teams - with the Adelaide Sharks as one of them - plus Perth, NZ2 & Brisbane 3 in a reasonable 20 team footprint.

The Sydney clubs are holding our game back. History is littered with examples of companies going bust because they refused to adapt to a changing environment. The problem for rugby league is the Sydney clubs are choosing to take the entire game down with them because they think they're bigger than the sport.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It will happen because team will go straight in if they follow peter v's lead & merge

It won't happen because Jets have nothing of value to offer the Tigers.

 

[MugaB]

Yup. There's the crux of the issue there.

The Sharks are an isolated enclave, keeping the Dragons from being a super-regional club that covers the Illawarra region AND Southern Sydney.

Moving one (and to be honest, most straightforward would probably be the Sharks, as the Dragons are closest to being that super-regional club) would de-clutter Sydney a bit AND enable expansion without having to increase the competition size.

A move to Adelaide (for example) means we could have the current 17 teams - with the Adelaide Sharks as one of them - plus Perth, NZ2 & Brisbane 3 in a reasonable 20 team footprint.

More chance of moving Roosters or souths away from sydney..... the more you guys spout this nonesence the more you need to be reminded that the competition doesn't have a set number of licences, there is no magic number, the licences are not made of platinum and cost a fortune to make.
They cost nothing but bad press, if they become defunct... i can see expansion becoming the next gravey train where every broadcast deal has a new team attach to it, till then we go to conferences after 20, then 22, then 24... clubs can be set up anywhere, its a TV product, i would be surprised to see Norths Bears, Easts Tigers, and some other established lower grades clubs get added as they did with the dolphins... they aren't looking to create great big brisbane broncos or Melbourne storms, they already have them, they want more little guys fringe sides that compete and have a good show of it... redcliffe was their perfect example of expansion, more to come

 

[MugaB]

The Sydney clubs are holding our game back. History is littered with examples of companies going bust because they refused to adapt to a changing environment. The problem for rugby league is the Sydney clubs are choosing to take the entire game down with them because they think they're bigger than the sport.

The Sydney clubs are the competition, the rest of the clubs were invited, redcliffe has now been invited, your just sour coz of your poor shithouse logan scorpions went no where, you forget you have had a team in your city for over 35 years now, if not more, if you werent so lazy you'd support your broncos, instead of naming yourself after getting rid of them, now you got 2, well done you

 

[Pippen94]

It won't happen because Jets have nothing of value to offer the Tigers.

NRL wants team in Logan & Ipswich.

 

[flippikat]

More chance of moving Roosters or souths away from sydney..... the more you guys spout this nonesence the more you need to be reminded that the competition doesn't have a set number of licences, there is no magic number, the licences are not made of platinum and cost a fortune to make.

Hey, I don't doubt that the NRL could theoretically go past 20 teams - out to 22, even 24.. but when you do that you come up with two issues - lack of distinct TV timeslots (so some games would need to play simultaneously), and seriously testing the playing & coaching depth.

 

[MugaB]

Hey, I don't doubt that the NRL could theoretically go past 20 teams - out to 22, even 24.. but when you do that you come up with two issues - lack of distinct TV timeslots (so some games would need to play simultaneously), and seriously testing the playing & coaching depth.

Maybe, but as teams grow the player pool grows with it, it all depends on where we expand to, if we theoretically add in central coast, maybe not so much, but if we go to NZ, WA, SA or PNG then yeah it does, trouble is we aren't going to spend on the infrastructure needed to prop up those new areas, like the AFL do, we want them to bid and pay their way, and be viable on their own two feet, then license them and fund the cap, ala the dolphins..
It can be done, just not at the speed everyone wants, as far as timeslots go monday nights, sunday evenings, extra saturday game and can even push for a wednesday nights, (as we do have state of origins generally then, albiet only twice a season)... just have to keep that a blockbuster game to start the round for it to take hold..
It might be overkill, but its do able, and content is king for broadcasters... i'd also see it being worth it shortening the season, and creating conferences... pretty much like the NFL do

 

[Perth Red]

Ppl were saying Perth were odds on for 17th team. Need a viable backer & juniors. Only bris3 has that

Where they? I think if you didn't think Brisbane2 would most likely be the next club to join NRL you were pretty naïve.

 

[Perth Red]

It will happen because team will go straight in if they follow peter v's lead & merge

Broncos will never allow it and we all know Vlandys is news ltd man. I mean he flew to America just to ask permission to expand the NRL ffs!

 

[flippikat]

Maybe, but as teams grow the player pool grows with it, it all depends on where we expand to, if we theoretically add in central coast, maybe not so much, but if we go to NZ, WA, SA or PNG then yeah it does, trouble is we aren't going to spend on the infrastructure needed to prop up those new areas, like the AFL do, we want them to bid and pay their way, and be viable on their own two feet, then license them and fund the cap, ala the dolphins..
It can be done, just not at the speed everyone wants, as far as timeslots go monday nights, sunday evenings, extra saturday game and can even push for a wednesday nights, (as we do have state of origins generally then, albiet only twice a season)... just have to keep that a blockbuster game to start the round for it to take hold..
It might be overkill, but its do able, and content is king for broadcasters... i'd also see it being worth it shortening the season, and creating conferences... pretty much like the NFL do

For over-extended competitions, you just have to look at what's happened to AFL, and what's happening with Super Rugby - some of the sides there are woeful, yet expansion happened regardless- and in AFL's case, expansion without further rationalization in Melbourne to compensate for it.

Just blindly hoping that depth will grow to fill 22 or 24 teams is a huge leap of faith.

 

[MugaB]

For over-extended competitions, you just have to look at what's happened to AFL, and what's happening with Super Rugby - some of the sides there are woeful, yet expansion happened regardless- and in AFL's case, expansion without further rationalization in Melbourne to compensate for it.

Just blindly hoping that depth will grow to fill 22 or 24 teams is a huge leap of faith.

Again its all about within what timeframe... AFL and SR are a different sports run by different admins, AFL are dumb enough to place pins on a map hence GC suns and GWS Giants, and super rugby are screwed in Aus, we take the best talent and theyve let there local comp whither on the vine ... NRL are smarter at it with clubs nowadays, they would never drop a brand to place pins on a map or shrink their comp to accommodate for play pool shortages... not since the inception of the storm and end of the super league, yes those mergers happened, but all of that will never happen again, they believe in each brand and the community aspect each can bring, clubs like Newcastle show that even when you have low seasons, the town still turns up... RU has lost sight of the people and its original clubs, AFL do this well for Melbourne, but their draft helps them cover up their deficiencys.. not a good way to grow your base of local talent or participation within a non heartland area.... its akin to Melbourne storms link with the falcons of sunshine coast... its fine for one club, but to do it for many is unviable... thats why it important to only license new clubs that will ensure their own survival without needing to drain the player pool, and only let in those who will add to it

 

[Pippen94]

For over-extended competitions, you just have to look at what's happened to AFL, and what's happening with Super Rugby - some of the sides there are woeful, yet expansion happened regardless- and in AFL's case, expansion without further rationalization in Melbourne to compensate for it.

Just blindly hoping that depth will grow to fill 22 or 24 teams is a huge leap of faith.

Again its all about within what timeframe... AFL and SR are a different sports run by different admins, AFL are dumb enough to place pins on a map hence GC suns and GWS Giants, and super rugby are screwed in Aus, we take the best talent and theyve let there local comp whither on the vine ... NRL are smarter at with clubs nowadays, they would never drop a brand to place pins on a map or shrink their comp to accommodate for play pool shortages... not since the inception of the storm and end of the super league, yes those mergers happened, but all of that will never happen again, they believe in each brand and the community aspect each can bring, clubs like Newcastle show that even when you have low season, the town still turns up... RU has lost sight of the people and its original clubs

Melbourne is too big a market to ignore so that team was always going to happen. Not the case for Perth or adelaide. Wonder if Melbourne 2 has more value than either of those places?!

 

[MugaB]

Melbourne is too big a market to ignore so that team was always going to happen. Not the case for Perth or adelaide. Wonder if Melbourne 2 has more value than either of those places?!

It does, but we'll see push back from all clubs regarding pumping money into a Victorian state again as a waste again as was the original storm issue, but have one is fine, two maybe pushing it... it would be looked upon as another GWS

 

[Perth Red]

Melbourne is too big a market to ignore so that team was always going to happen. Not the case for Perth or adelaide. Wonder if Melbourne 2 has more value than either of those places?!

I sense another troll thread coming from you lol

 

[Pippen94]

I sense another troll thread coming from you lol

I smell fear