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1st Chappell/Hadlee Trophy Match AUS v NZ @ WACA

Meth

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As I said before, I could see McCallum claiming it

Interesting to see the article above stating the umpires consulted to give Broom out
 

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I thought he looked back at the umpire before walking

Must have been a very quick consultation then, he hesitated for a few seconds then went , i didnt see the umpire nodding or anything, just the batsman walking
 

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http://content-nz.cricinfo.com/ausvnz2008/content/current/story/388680.html

Daniel Vettori was disappointed Brad Haddin did not make an effort to prevent Neil Broom from leaving the field after the wicketkeeper dislodged the bails in a bowled dismissal in Perth. New Zealand went on to win the game on the last ball, but Broom's exit came at a critical time, ending his 42-run partnership with Ross Taylor.

Haddin's gloves were in front of the stumps and knocked off the bails, with Michael Clarke's delivery also heading over the stumps. Neither umpire noticed Haddin's movement, but it was clear on the replay.

"I think you saw from Haddin's reaction that he knew something was wrong so he probably should have made more noise about it," Vettori told NZPA after the win. "It is [disappointing] because I thought that was the partnership that was going to win the game, so it put us under a bit more pressure. We've just got to make sure it doesn't happen again."

Ponting spoke before he had seen a replay but challenged Vettori to be sure of his Haddin criticism. "It's a bit much, he's basically claiming [Haddin's] a cheat, isn't he? That's a bit strong unless they're 100% certain.

"We'll wait and see. If [a replay] does show anything that Brad is in the clear, I'll certainly be letting Daniel know about it. It's probably worth Haddin having a chat to him as well. He's basically had a bit of a crack at Haddin's make-up."

Haddin told Ponting the ball had hit the top of off stump. "The umpire gave it out and the batsman walked off, and the next I heard of it was when I was asked about it at the end of play," Ponting said. "[Haddin] obviously didn't know, because if he knew then he wouldn't have claimed it. Whatever we're saying about Brad Haddin here, you can't say that knowingly happened, that is for sure."

Ponting's night grew worse when he was fined 20% of his match fee after being two overs behind the required rate. The rest of the team received 10% punishments. Australia get the chance to hit back in the second match of the Chappell-Hadlee Series in Melbourne on Friday.
 

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But when the umpires dont give bowl decisions they dont put their finger up, so when did the umpire gave him out ?

The batsman wasnt there long enough for the umpires to talk about it, then they would have sent it to the 3rd umpire
so what is ponting or haddin on about
 
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It was clear immediately that Broom suspected something was not right- maybe he looked back at the umpire and he nodded- that's confirmation enough
 

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It was clear immediately that Broom suspected something was not right- maybe he looked back at the umpire and he nodded- that's confirmation enough

But i seen the umpire he just stood there at the bowlers end didnt nod or anything the camera was on him and the batsman, the nz batsman just walked

Anyway its over
 
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nobody is whinging

we are just discussing an incident in the game
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBv4gq72p4M

seems to me that he has a decent inquisitive look back at Bucknor- although you don't see if or how Bucknor responds- all of the evidence seems to suggest at the moment that the umpires motioned that he was out


But this never happen

A critical fourth-wicket stand ended when umpires Steve Bucknor and Bruce Oxenford consulted to give in-form Kiwi Neil Broom (29) out bowled

They never consulted

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24994822-23212,00.html
 

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We are discussing an incident in the game. If that's whinging, you are the biggest whinger on this forum.
 

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Aside from whether Haddin knew or not, the whole controversy could have been avoided if the square leg umpire did his job and called no ball.
 

Meth

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That's a good point- really, the discussion centers around the umpires performance in this incident. When it comes to critiquing umpires El D, you seem to always be the first to cast a stone
 

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