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1st Chappell/Hadlee Trophy Match AUS v NZ @ WACA

KeepingTheFaith

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I'd actually back NZ to chase 250+ more than I would for them to chase 170-180 on a regular basis. They seem to play better when nothing is expected of them.
 

Meth

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A hearty congratulations to the third umpire. Vettori should never have been there to hit the winning runs.

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Yeah, the umpiring decisions certainly favored the Kiwis tonight
 

IanG

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At least it wasn't the Kiwis winning in a canter. It went right down to the last ball.
 

eddiesmith

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LOL...So we shouldn't sweat two of their best three batsmen? Riiiiiiiiight.........
Its the Kiwis, Australia shouldnt worry about any of them, just worry about batting sensibly

But why assume that McCullum and Ryder are just going to suddenly find form? You got that little faith in Australias bowlers? Besides atm the Kiwis wouldnt be worrying about Clarke and who would in his form? But under your logic they should be terrified of him :lol:
 

byrne_rovelli_fan82

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Oh right so now the Aussie fans want to blame the umpires for their loss do they? Great sportmanship by the fans!

Certainly the officials played their part in a bad display today for BOTH sides and as for that run-out that should have happened, on Vettori account. Benefit of the doubt did favour him, but I reckon that call could have gone either way, and either decision would have been fine with me. Just the replay angles didn't prove in the umpires' mind enough to be absolutely sure. And considering the sh*tty one Broom got Vettori's one made sense. But all in fair play the run out should have been given, and Broom and McCullum and Dave Hussey's wickets all shouldn't have been give out.
 

Bazal

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Its the Kiwis, Australia shouldnt worry about any of them, just worry about batting sensibly

But why assume that McCullum and Ryder are just going to suddenly find form? You got that little faith in Australias bowlers? Besides atm the Kiwis wouldnt be worrying about Clarke and who would in his form? But under your logic they should be terrified of him :lol:

McCullum doesn't need to find form...114 against the PMs 11 doesn't strike me as the knock of a man who's struggling. And besides, if you don't worry about the best players on a side, then you're almost guaranteed to take them lightly and play them into form...
 

MKEB...

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Good win to NZ, I am loking forward to the next match....

BTW There is a plethora of decent Aussie Batsman and bowlers:why are the likes of warner/Marsh/Tait playing?

Aussie has better players than that...
 

Robster

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I think our batting line up is a worry. Not enough wickets until patell bats at number 9 and mill at 8.
 

ozbash

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:D Never a doubt.. I predict 5-zip...

Relations between the two Chappell-Hadlee Trophy cricket captains plummeted last night as Ricky Ponting fumed at Daniel Vettori's inference that Australian wicketkeeper Brad Haddin cheated.

Haddin's actions dominated post-match discussion after New Zealand's thrilling two-wicket win off the final ball, as he potentially joined Greg Chappell and Greg Dyer as trans-Tasman cricketing villains.
Replays of New Zealand batsman Neil Broom's dismissal for 29, bowled by spinner Michael Clarke, showed Haddin's gloves dislodging the bails and the ball missing the top of the stumps.
Broom looked baffled but didn't linger at the crease and umpires Bruce Oxenham (Australia) at square leg and Steve Bucknor (West Indies) at the bowler's end had no issues, while Haddin didn't attempt to recall Broom.
The dismissal came at a crucial time and could have cost New Zealand victory, with Broom and topscorer Ross Taylor adding 42 for the fifth wicket and looking comfortable.
Vettori, who hit the winning runs, was in little doubt as to Haddin's actions.
"I think you saw from Haddin's reaction that he knew something was wrong so he probably should have made more noise about it," Vettori said.
"It is (disappointing) because I thought that was the partnership that was going to win the game, so it put us under a bit more pressure. We've just got to make sure it doesn't happen again."
A bristling Ponting said he hadn't seen a replay of the dismissal, but would confront Vettori about his comments.
"I think he'd better make sure he's 100 percent right before he comes out and makes those sort of statements. It's a bit much, he's basically claiming (Haddin's) a cheat, isn't he? That's a bit strong unless they're 100 percent certain," Ponting said.
"We'll wait and see. If (a replay) does show anything that Brad is in the clear, I'll certainly be letting Daniel know about it.
"It's probably worth Haddin having a chat to him as well. He's basically had a bit of a crack at Haddin's makeup."
Ponting said Haddin was adamant the dismissal was legitimate, and gave his gloveman's honesty a stamp of approval.
"Out on the field (Haddin) said he was certain the ball had flicked the top of the off stump. The umpire gave it out and the batsman walked off, and the next I heard of it was when I was asked about it at the end of play.
"(Haddin) obviously didn't know, because if he knew then he wouldn't have claimed it. Whatever we're saying about Brad Haddin here, you can't say that knowingly happened, that is for sure."
The incident will add another chapter to the stormy trans-Tasman cricketing rivalry, most notable for Chappell ordering his brother Trevor to bowl underarm in 1981, and wicketkeeper Dyer claiming a catch off batsman Andrew Jones in 1987 when replays showed the ball clearly rolled from his grasp.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4835499a10133.html

Danny's right.:cool:
 

Gaba

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The ball hit the stump, you can hear it...but Hadds had already broken the bails...Poor effort from Bucknor and a sh*t rule that the TV umpire can't intervene
Its a case the batsman didnt know the rules
Actually if the batsman didnt walk, the umpires would had to ask the third umpire, it happen a few times where a batsman had doubts whether he was bowled or not, they just stood there and wait for the umpires to get confirmation from the 3 rd umpire.

The batsman fault for walking off if he had doubts he should have stand his ground, so its wasnt the umpires fault that the third umpire wasnt use it was the batsman himself for not staying out there.
 
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JoeD

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The batsman fault for walking off if he had doubts he should have stand his ground, so its wasnt the umpires fault that the third umpire wasnt use it was the batsman himself for not staying out there.
i didn't seei t ( was in bed by that stage) but did the umpire raise his finger? IF he did you can't just stand your ground, you have to go

on whether D Hussey was out or not. There was definitely a noise, everyone heard it, yet there was nothing on snicko. Why not? Surely snicko should have picked up something?
 

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