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dgsfan

dgsfan

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Billythekid said:
Dragons problems with crowd averages are caused by their smallish grounds and souths crowds are affected by their terrible form since they have come back in.

The thing with memberships is the first people you sign up will most likely be the ones who attended games anyway. So it will always take a while before the increased membership numbers are reflected in crowds.

I think the first sign that memberships are having an effect will be seen by looking at the smallest crowds. Hopefully as most clubs get closer to the 10K mark we will see crowds of this size gone for good.
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Look at the Dogs form last year, yet we still managed to be the second most supported team. RE Dragons, if they can't even get their small stadium to capacity (even for a finals game), then what hope would they have it it had a larger capacity. You only have to look at when they played out of ANZ to see that.
 
BDGS

BDGS

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dgsfan said:
Look at the Dogs form last year, yet we still managed to be the second most supported team. RE Dragons, if they can't even get their small stadium to capacity (even for a finals game), then what hope would they have it it had a larger capacity. You only have to look at when they played out of ANZ to see that.
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No we didn't, we had the second highest crowds. That doesn't equal to the second most supported teams. A lot of things come into play more then just crowds when determining who the second most supported team is.
 
Dragon Dave

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dgsfan said:
Look at the Dogs form last year, yet we still managed to be the second most supported team. RE Dragons, if they can't even get their small stadium to capacity (even for a finals game), then what hope would they have it it had a larger capacity. You only have to look at when they played out of ANZ to see that.
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The Manly semi issue was due to a false public announcement. It was announced that all but a few GA tickets were available with the best part of a week left when in fact there were more and people gave up on trying.

No club brings more travelling fans with them or has more fans spread around the country.

Both our grounds will have larger capacity this year.
 
adamkungl

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NRLMad said:
You're right here.. the lowest crowds would generally correlate with the lowest memberships & then with performance on the field..

The lowest attended games generally relate to a Sydney team vs an interstate team ..

http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/2005.html#hi
http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/2006.html#hi
http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/2007.html#hi
http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/2008.html#hi
http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/2009.html#hi
http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/2010.html#hi

The trend form the above suggest that the lowest attended games are slowly being increased year on year.

The 20th lowest for each year...
8903Sydney Roosters v CanterburyS.F.S.04-Sep-2005
8083Souths v MelbourneStadium Australia06-May-2006
8983Melbourne v CanberraOlympic21-Jul-2007
8761Souths v MelbourneGrahame24-May-2008
9041Melbourne v NewcastleOlympic04-Jul-2009
9688Souths v North QueenslandStadium Australia07-Jun-2010

We only started pushing memberships in the last 2-3 years..

Lowest entries per year:
6063Melbourne v CanberraOlympic09-Jul-2005
4850New Zealand v CronullaMt Smart05-Aug-2006
4186Sydney Roosters v North QueenslandS.F.S.09-Jun-2007
5102Parramatta v New ZealandParramatta06-Sep-2008
6232Sydney Roosters v Gold Coast TitansGrahame13-Jun-2009
6478Sydney Roosters v North QueenslandS.F.S.10-May-2010
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Roosters v Cowboys at the SFS is the biggest non-event of the year, every year...nfi why we keep drawing them twice a year, but never seem to get Parra twice in a year, which would easily triple that crowd.

As for the memberships - how good is it to see clubs competing and giving the numbers a huge boost.

We are in for a massive year crowds and hype wise. If the players behave themselves, the NRL get the IC up and running, and announce 2 expansion spots, we will have a year to beat the glory days of the early 90s


Roosters at 6553 btw
 
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Billythekid

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dgsfan said:
Look at the Dogs form last year, yet we still managed to be the second most supported team.
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The dogs also had a huge boost in membership numbers. Regardless just because poor form doesn't affect one club doesn't mean it won't affect another.

I also don't think you can compare one bad year to what souths have experienced since they cam back into the comp. They have sucked pretty much every year. During that time the dogs have done fairly well and even won a comp.

dgsfan said:
RE Dragons, if they can't even get their small stadium to capacity (even for a finals game), then what hope would they have it it had a larger capacity. You only have to look at when they played out of ANZ to see that.
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There are always issues at small grounds and getting them filled to capacity.

Regardless i was just responding to your comment that the dragons membership numbers aren't reflected in their crowds.

I think there are reasons for this:

-Their stadium caps them at a certain level so even if they get 50K members next year their average crowd still couldn't go up much.

-They play at multiple stadiums. It could be that people are buying memberships but only attend the games played in their area. In this case their membership numbers won't translate to higher average crowds as much but if anything it is just as good for their bottom line.

I'm not trying to make excuses for them im just trying to explain why their high membership numbers aren't reflected in higher crowds.
 
RWB

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BDGS said:
You wouldn't be saying that if they were the top two teams.
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Because the top teams we draw twice every year make perfect sense, playing the Cowboys home and away however does not.

I can accept that the draw is near impossible to best fit every team but that was such a school boy response.
 
WaznTheGreat

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I wonder if clubs involved in upcoming membership battles are politely asking there fans who want to become members to hold off until the battle begins to help them in there quest for the $10,000
 
BunniesMan

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Haynetrain said:
I wonder if clubs involved in upcoming membership battles are politely asking there fans who want to become members to hold off until the battle begins to help them in there quest for the $10,000
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You might be onto something. The increase in member numbers for the teams involved in the next 2 rounds seem to have slowed down lately. So I wouldn't be surprised if they are being creative with when they process the memberships.

But even if they are, the battles and the marketing that comes with it does lead to overall more members so it's all good.
 
cleary89

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Worth the risk of losing 100 members at 100 each just for a chance at 10k?

Or 500 members at 200 each?
 
dgsfan

dgsfan

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Billythekid said:
The dogs also had a huge boost in membership numbers. Regardless just because poor form doesn't affect one club doesn't mean it won't affect another.

I also don't think you can compare one bad year to what souths have experienced since they cam back into the comp. They have sucked pretty much every year. During that time the dogs have done fairly well and even won a comp.



There are always issues at small grounds and getting them filled to capacity.

Regardless i was just responding to your comment that the dragons membership numbers aren't reflected in their crowds.

I think there are reasons for this:

-Their stadium caps them at a certain level so even if they get 50K members next year their average crowd still couldn't go up much.

-They play at multiple stadiums. It could be that people are buying memberships but only attend the games played in their area. In this case their membership numbers won't translate to higher average crowds as much but if anything it is just as good for their bottom line.

I'm not trying to make excuses for them im just trying to explain why their high membership numbers aren't reflected in higher crowds.
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I guess that's the result of merging. Wide support but fairly average in each area.
 
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