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2012 NSW soo side..

Dragon2010

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Stuart is probably going to be the most random person. Toss media articles around. Get shit hitting the ceiling. Will name some crazy team and pull off some masterstroke tactic with a massive risk...Ohh wait.
 

Joker's Wild

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If thats our backline we're stuffed, again.

Hayne is hopelessly out of form at fullback and was a complete failure at 5/8. He has gone alright at wing at SOO level, so what do we do?...play him in the centres....:? Inglis is proven in the centres, Hayne is not and it's not as if we don't have some quality centres this year in Lawrence or J Morris to pick from. Jennings is also injured or out of form or something, but at least he is a centre. Dugan is a fullback and a bloody good one. He might work on the wing but it is another question mark. So, we are left with question marks over 3/5 of the backline.

And if your worried about the defense of Dugan & Jennings you also better throw in Hayne & Uate. Hayne has been terrible defensively & Uate is always a bit suspect. I don't think Qld would mind this backline too much.

Put your money where your mouth is and suggest a better backline with attacking skill and no defencive holes? Its not easy

BTW, Hayne is the incumbent NSW centre
 

Joe's Magpies

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Here is Peter Sterlings Side and his reasons:

NSW Origin great Peter Sterling reveals the team he would pick for the Blues for State of Origin I.
Tune in to NRL.com at 5pm Sunday for the live team announcement.
Statistics can be misleading. They can often be made to be what you want them to be.
However when it comes to State-of-Origin, the one factor that can't be denied is how advantageous it is to the state that is successful in the opening game.
From the 30 best-of-three series played so far, the team that has won the first encounter has gone on to win the series on 22 occasions.
That tells us that winning the opening rubber has converted into a 73% chance of attaining ultimate success.
After six consecutive campaign defeats, the pressure for NSW to get the mix right from the opening whistle is even more profound. While coach Ricky Stuart needs no help in forming his squad, just for the heck of it, this is the way I would be going.
Fullback – Brett Stewart
From a quality field the best option is Stewart, who has done enough since coming back from a niggling injury to hold out Josh Dugan, Anthony Minichiello and Jarryd Hayne. Despite missing two matches the Manly custodian was superb in his comeback game against the Bulldogs and was comfortably the best on ground in a finals-like encounter. I was convinced that he was back to his brilliant best with two bursts of acceleration in between defenders (one leading to a try) that showed that he is moving as freely as ever. He backed this effort up with a solid performance against the Raiders on Sunday that showcased the defensive side of his game. This area is sometimes overlooked, and I believe of the main contenders he does exhibit the safest last line.
Wing – Akuila Uate
The flying Fijian Akuila Uate has been one of a small number of certainties to be in the NSW side and will compete in his second series on the right wing. He is absolutely suited to this level of football, being one of the strongest and most powerful runners of the ball in the game. With kick returns and the early carrying of the ball in an attacking set absolutely crucial in Origin, Uate shapes as one of the Blues' most important and potent weapons. His decision-making in defence has also improved markedly with more time in the NRL, as has his ability under the high ball. The more carries he has in the series the greater the chance of Blues' success.
Centre – Chris Lawrence
He may have made a slow start to the season by his standards, but it should not be enough to overlook Chris Lawrence playing inside Uate on the right side. Lawrence was the starting centre for the Kangaroos in last year's Four Nations triumph in the absence of Justin Hodges, and has been his usual solid self this season in a disappointing Tigers line-up. He has actually been pushed into the back row on occasions and on Saturday was the run-on five-eighth. He is capable of handling any of those positions when necessary but at this stage of his career he is still best suited in the centres. His defensive strength will be needed against the power of Greg Inglis.
Centre – Josh Morris
The fact that Michael Jennings has been unable to finish his last two matches casts too much doubt over his fitness and allows a recall for the very much in-form Josh Morris. After an up-and-down 2011 the 'Dogs centre has been in career-best touch, with two hat-tricks contributing to his eight tries from nine matches. We saw his great pace in his second try against the Eels on Friday when he clearly outsprinted Chris Sandow in chasing down an attacking kick. He has previous experience at Origin back in '09, and has also combined with brother Brett at Test level.
Wing – Brett Morris
Despite playing the bulk of the season at fullback, Brett Morris moves seamlessly back on to the left wing where he has made his name. His form at the back for the Dragons has been faultless and there is no reason to think he would have any trouble transferring that to a position that he knows even better. He would have been involved in all three matches last year if not for missing game two through injury, and continues to be one of the best finishers in the competition. In Uate and Morris, NSW boast superb pace and athleticism out wide.
Five-eighth – Todd Carney
I had Jarrod Mullen pencilled in until the sublime performance from Todd Carney on Monday night. It's still a photo finish because I love a left foot/right foot kicking combination, so the onus is on Carney to work out a kicking system with Mitchell Pearce to nullify Billy Slater. His passing and kicking game looks very confident, with the manner in which he scored his try on Monday a return to the Dally M days of 2010.
Halfback – Mitchell Pearce
It is imperative that your half is full of confidence at this stage of the season and Mitchell Pearce is saying the right things and backing that up on the field. With five straight Origins under his belt Pearce is primed to justify the faith that has been shown in him. His biggest asset is his ability to play direct and to the defensive line, and he is one of only a handful of number sevens capable of doing so. Putting Mitch Aubusson over for the Roosters' second try on the weekend was a perfect illustration. He is a tough kid who puts his body on the line in defence.
Lock – Greg Bird
Ricky Stuart said over the weekend that part of the reason he went with Greg Bird last year was because he was an incumbent. The Titans' poor run this season hasn't helped his cause but he is in better individual form than he was at this time when selected last year. He may be diminutive in comparison to other forwards but he is uncompromising and skilful, which is a nice combination. He is definitely a player to be followed as he has an uncanny ability to attract defenders but still manufacture an offload.
Second-row – Luke Lewis
He is struggling with some on-going, niggling injuries but Luke Lewis is one player I have no qualms picking under such circumstances. I also see him as a starting player as I think he exerts influence over the full 80 minutes and is somewhat wasted coming off the bench. At the moment he is being used wider than usual by the Panthers but his angled runs tend to be more effective closer on the edges.
Second-row – Ben Creagh
Creagh is still to impose himself on Origin but his raw-boned hardness is hard to leave out. There are few back-rowers that are physically as strong with his speed and athletic prowess. Defensively he is a brick wall and his ability to stop opposing forwards in their tracks without being able to put their nose through the line for a quick play-the-ball is a real plus. He was pushed up into the front-row at times last series and handled it well, and that option may again be something coach Stuart keeps in mind.
Front-row – Michael Weyman
With the opening 20 minutes invariably crucial, there are few props that can get a side going forward more effectively than Weyman. The big man has the type of compact build that is hard to put a shot on, and combined with good leg speed he is able to quickly gather momentum. There are also potentially quick play-the-balls available when he dents the line, and few things are more valuable in the opening exchanges of an Origin game. Weyman is far from one-dimensional and when selective with his offloads he's capable of promoting effective second phase, just like he did in putting Ben Creagh in for the match-winner on Anzac Day.
Hooker – Robbie Farah
The toughest selection in my team, as it really was a toss of the coin between Robbie Farah and Michael Ennis. Farah's performance in City-Country and being the difference between success and defeat for the Tigers against the Gold Coast on the weekend were enough to have him come up heads. The difficulty for Farah is that what he does for the Tigers is not easy to reproduce in Origin as the faster pace makes it very difficult for his state teammates to all be on the same page. He will need to curb some natural instincts in order to play within the confines of the team performance. He must also play straight, as going across-field too often looking for runners will be playing into the hands of the Queenslanders.
Front-row – Paul Gallen (c)
Paul Gallen as starting prop this year again and captain. Enough said.
Interchange – Anthony Watmough, Glenn Stewart, James Tamou, Ryan Hinchcliffe
In the absence of Kurt Gidley the Storm's Hinchcliffe fills the utility player void beautifully and covers any number of positions, including dummy-half. Having both Bird and Lewis in the squad means there is ample versatility to cover any injury. Tamou was excellent for Australia against the Kiwis and joins the growing list of players to have played for their country before state. Stewart is all class and three games under his belt after injury will have him cherry ripe and fresh to go.
The toughest players to leave out were Jarryd Hayne and Tariq Sims. There is no doubting Hayne's explosive ability but those I've selected in the backline are simply in better form and there was also a worrying lack of urgency in his effort against Canterbury. Sims' time will come and it could easily be in this series as a result of injury or poor performance.
Peter Sterling's Origin I NSW lineup
1. Brett Stewart
2. Akuila Uate
3. Chris Lawrence
4. Josh Morris
5. Brett Morris
6. Todd Carney
7. Mitchell Pearce
8. Michael Weyman
9. Robbie Farah
10. Paul Gallen (c)
11. Luke Lewis
12. Ben Creagh
13. Greg Bird
Interchange:
14. Anthony Watmough
15. Glenn Stewart
16. James Tamou
17. Ryan Hinchcliffe

Souce: http://t.co/tAVEI8eS
 

RABK

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And was probably once again our best player in that game as well JW.

Really unsure about Hoffman, he falls into the Creagh level of completely useless in his previous Origin career. Melbourne nuffies only perform for QLD, we get all the dud storm players at the blues.

I really hope he is also not considering Dugan over Stewart - that would be plain wrong after sundays game were Stewart was damn heroic in defence. It would prove that Stuart has an unhealthy bias for Dugan.
 

Dragon2010

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Here is Peter Sterlings Side and his reasons:

Peter Sterling's Origin I NSW lineup
1. Brett Stewart
2. Akuila Uate
3. Chris Lawrence
4. Josh Morris
5. Brett Morris
6. Todd Carney
7. Mitchell Pearce
8. Michael Weyman
9. Robbie Farah
10. Paul Gallen (c)
11. Luke Lewis
12. Ben Creagh
13. Greg Bird
Interchange:
14. Anthony Watmough
15. Glenn Stewart
16. James Tamou
17. Ryan Hinchcliffe

Souce: http://t.co/tAVEI8eS

Woeful team.
 

Fieldsguy

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This thread just gets better and better.

Confusion, fear, desperation, frustration, in-fighting, jealousy oh and did I mention Fear by NSW supporters. :lol::crazy:
 

Dragon2010

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This thread just gets better and better.

It does. It does get allot better.

Confusion

Clueless. What confusion? Most of us have agreed on a pretty solid team of what we'd like to see and who we don't. So no confusion here.



Yeah we're totally scared. All we are saying is do really want "X player shaping up against X player knowing there defense" far from fear.


Frustration

And what exactly would be frustrated about? People like you coming and lowering the IQ levels of this thread with your pointless comments? It is frustrating.

In-fighting

Yes because having constructive criticism with others is "In-Fighting" we are discussing and talking. Go back and live in your dream world.


Of what?

oh and did I mention Fear by NSW supporters

Yes you did. Please learn to read before repeating yourself.
 

gronkathon

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Sterlings side seems to follow the failed philosophy of "containing Queensland" especially in the back row and bench. You want at least one player off your bench who will be a destructive, aggresive ball runner. He named none.

Brett Morris is an interesting one. His performances have been patchy in the past but he does seem to have a greater confidence and presence on the field. I can see the logic behind no Hayne and Jennings.

Don't like the makeup of his forwards at all tbh
 

Fieldsguy

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It does. It does get allot better.
Clueless. What confusion? Most of us have agreed on a pretty solid team of what we'd like to see and who we don't. So no confusion here.
You want to revise that statement?


And what exactly would be frustrated about?
Having bad selectors, lack of superstars, players not up to Origin standard, players being picked out of position, origin players playing reserve grade, a grub of a captain, I could go on forever on answering this question.:D

Yes because having constructive criticism with others is "In-Fighting" we are discussing and talking. Go back and live in your dream world.
Yes and where has that gotten you the last 6 years? The "dream world" is the real world where you are being dominated by Queensland and will be again this year.



Okay, I will point out the obvious, fear of losing another series making it 7 years in a row, bragging rights to Queensland, humiliation both in real life and on the internet and another year of the above mentioned traits of a NSW supporter. :lol:
 

Joker's Wild

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This thread just gets better and better.

Confusion, fear, desperation, frustration, in-fighting, jealousy oh and did I mention Fear by NSW supporters. :lol::crazy:

Fear? lol No game of football has ever made me scared champ. I guess its has happened to you though.
 

Dragon2010

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You want to revise that statement?


Having bad selectors, lack of superstars, players not up to Origin standard, players being picked out of position, origin players playing reserve grade, a grub of a captain, I could go on forever on answering this question.:D

Yes and where has that gotten you the last 6 years? The "dream world" is the real world where you are being dominated by Queensland and will be again this year.




Okay, I will point out the obvious, fear of losing another series making it 7 years in a row, bragging rights to Queensland, humiliation both in real life and on the internet and another year of the above mentioned traits of a NSW supporter. :lol:

God I love Origin time. State vs State. It's banter like this I love.

I'll give you the bad selectors but thats not in anyway the fans fault. Allot of us have kept our passion throughout. We have the superstars they just don't get selected and yes. We have had some nuffies in Origin.

I could go on but my lunch is ready!
 

Pierced Soul

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one thing i will say, is if nsw had a stable team it would be pretty boring. we all know that most of the qld team will be whats been trotted out the past few years. if we didnt have the intrigue from the blues it'd be boring
 

gUt

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Second-row – Ben Creagh
Creagh is still to impose himself on Origin but his raw-boned hardness is hard to leave out. There are few back-rowers that are physically as strong with his speed and athletic prowess. Defensively he is a brick wall and his ability to stop opposing forwards in their tracks without being able to put their nose through the line for a quick play-the-ball is a real plus. He was pushed up into the front-row at times last series and handled it well, and that option may again be something coach Stuart keeps in mind.

haha, yes keep picking him please.
 

Gippsy

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Put your money where your mouth is and suggest a better backline with attacking skill and no defencive holes? Its not easy

BTW, Hayne is the incumbent NSW centre

Already did, post 2525.

ftr,

1. Dugan/Stewart
2. Uate
3. Lawrence
4. Jennings/J Morris
5. Hayne/McManus
6. Carney
7. Pearce
8. Woods
9. Farah
10. Douglas
11. Gallen
12. Stewart
13. Lewis

14. Hinchcliffe
15. Tamou
16. T Williams/Mannah/Tolman/Galloway
17. Sims
 

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