2013 Jersey, Logo & Sponsorship Thread II

[Prometheus]

Well that was a well though out rebuttal.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

Absolutely!

The official record books read-
St George Dragons: 15
St George Illawarra Dragons: 1
Total: 16

Wests Tigers have also won 16 premierships. 11 to Balmain, 4 to the Magpies and 1 to the Wests Tigers.

The generation of fans who are growing up now will never have supported either joint-venture partner as a stand alone club and will embrace the histories of both. They won't understand why people argue about this.



Of course. It is a part of their history.



Thanks.

I was going to ask if there was a colour photo of the Magpies design, then I realised it didn't matter. :lol:

For Wests Tigers, I could understand such an argument (separation of titles) given the intertwined histories covering such a large proportion of the life of the two clubs - but we are here and pumping. A fan base exists - and love the club.

What others think is irrelevant.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

Utter nonsense.

Logic disagrees.

 

[Zigwaa]

 

[Amadaca]

Logic disagrees.

Except that it doesn't.

Formed in 1999. Can't have won anything prior to that as a result. I'm now explaining the concept of time & how it works. LOL.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

Except that it doesn't.

Formed in 1999. Can't have won anything prior to that as a result. I'm now explaining the concept of time & how it works. LOL.

Or they reformed with their original territory?

You personally disagree. History begs to differ. Live with it.

 

[Prometheus]

He'll never understand. Somebody who could abandon his club the way he did to Manly when they formed the Northern Eagles doesn't have enough sense of loyalty and tradition to understand.

 

[Amadaca]

Or they reformed with their original territory?

You personally disagree. History begs to differ. Live with it.

I can't find anything in the history books about St. George-Illawarra between 1921-1998. Funny, that.

 

[Amadaca]

He'll never understand. Somebody who could abandon his club the way he did to Manly when they formed the Northern Eagles doesn't have enough sense of loyalty and tradition to understand.

They abandoned us, my friend.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

I can't find anything in the history books about St. George-Illawarra between 1921-1998. Funny, that.

Well, it goes like this: They shared the same region.

So, that's it. Case closed.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

They abandoned us, my friend.

So they did. Don't apply the poor merger you had to the reformation STGI has or the survival tactics Balmain and the Magpies now have. Either one is more honourable than the obvious deathtrap that Manly laid for the Bears - wrong as it was.

 

[Amadaca]

Does that mean Cronulla is really a part of St. George, Senses?

I hope the above sentence starts to unveil to you how bizarre your line of arguing is.

 

[Amadaca]

So they did. Don't apply the poor merger you had to the reformation STGI has or the survival tactics Balmain and the Magpies now have. Either one is more honourable than the obvious deathtrap that Manly laid for the Bears - wrong as it was.

I was simply contesting the notion I abandoned my club.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

Does that mean Cronulla is really a part of St. George, Senses?

I hope the above sentence starts to unveil to you how bizarre your line of arguing is.

We all have to think what you think and like what you like?

LOL@Souff$ territory.

 

[Amadaca]

You are arguing your view, I am stating mine. Nothing more.

 

[Prometheus]

Does that mean Cronulla is really a part of St. George, Senses?

Not now, but they were prior to the Sharks entering the competition and if they joined the joint-venture they would be again.

That will never happen though. The reason St George and Illawarra pre-emptively formed the JV a year before the NRL announced who was likely to be evicted was because they found out about News Ltd plans for a three-way St George-Cronulla-Illawarra merger.

 

[Amadaca]

Yes, that's true. St. George also knew the backlash of joining their rivals would ve massive. Shame Sea Eagles officials didn't take heed.

 

[Prometheus]

The Sea Eagles were being merciful. They didn't need to form the Northern Eagles in order to remain in the competition. You shouldn't judge them so harshly.

 

[Amadaca]

With respect (genuinely), that's easy to say from an outsiders position.

 

[firechild]

The Bears shot themselves in the foot. They had the option to die a quick death care of News or take up the offer of survival from Manly. They begrudgingly took the latter option and from day 1 tried to pull down the JV. The NS members of the board refused to vote on the name, meaning the Eagle won out. They then turned around and whinged about the result. Had Manly just kept the license they qualified for and left NS to be kicked out, people would be complaining that Manly were only acting their their own self interests but they did what they thought was right and still get judged harshly. They were never going to win in the public's eyes.