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2013 Jersey, Logo & Sponsorship Thread II

kdalymc

Bench
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It looks great because its symmetrical.
All the ones in the past, even including the all stars haven't been symmetrical and they look crap.. Just a jumbled mess.
 

GAZF

First Grade
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Found the new Broncs Indigenous jersey on eBay.

Not usually a fan of these jerseys as they usually look messy and over complicated but I actually like this one.

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Not bad, shame about the logo.
 

Joker's Wild

Coach
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Tell that to the Bedouin, who spend their entire lives wandering in the sun.



That is what people used to think until it was discovered that white clothing reflects the wearers own body heat back into them, while black absorbs it so that it can be dissipated into the surrounding air.

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GAZF

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I think what Prometheus was getting at was that there are other factors at play than just heat absorption by radiation. If the surrounding air (or the air boundary layer around the clothes) has a lower temperature than the clothing, the heat will be convected away at a rate proportional to the temperature difference.

However, the heat also convects and conducts into the body underneath the clothes, and likely at a greater rate in a hot climate since heat transfer coefficents into the body are naturally higher with direct skin contact and moist air compared the drier air outside as well as the (often) higher then body temperature external conditions. Since the internal areas of the clothes are roughly the same internally and externally, the rate of heat transfer (flux and overall) is higher going INTO the body.

HOWEVER this does not take into account that the air pocket beneath the clothing may become heated to above ambient temperature, a limit that may already be achieved with the energy absorbed by light clothing. Hence, if wearing black clothing, excess absorbed energy would then transfer to the environment as opposed to into the inner air space.

HOWEVER this applies to clothes that have large airspaces between it and the body. If wearing tighter clothing, say a jersey, larger amounts of heat can transfer to the skin without the insulation of air to protect the wearer. This heat may overheat the body directly OR prevent inner heat generated by the body from escaping due to a lower temperature gradient.

I'm talking myself in circles; theres a lot to consider and I just scraped by in thermodynamics classes. The point is, there may not be a single answer for all conditions.
 

Prometheus

Juniors
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I thought we were done with this debate last week?

Oh, and congratulations Joker's Wild, you found pictures of Bedouins wearing white on the internet. That must prove everything. Don't let the fact that you can also find pictures of a hamster doing karate, Barack Obama's Kenyan birth certificate or the Loch Ness Monster on the internet diminish your substantial victory in any way.
 

applesauce

Bench
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I think what Prometheus was getting at was that there are other factors at play than just heat absorption by radiation. If the surrounding air (or the air boundary layer around the clothes) has a lower temperature than the clothing, the heat will be convected away at a rate proportional to the temperature difference.

However, the heat also convects and conducts into the body underneath the clothes, and likely at a greater rate in a hot climate since heat transfer coefficents into the body are naturally higher with direct skin contact and moist air compared the drier air outside as well as the (often) higher then body temperature external conditions. Since the internal areas of the clothes are roughly the same internally and externally, the rate of heat transfer (flux and overall) is higher going INTO the body.

HOWEVER this does not take into account that the air pocket beneath the clothing may become heated to above ambient temperature, a limit that may already be achieved with the energy absorbed by light clothing. Hence, if wearing black clothing, excess absorbed energy would then transfer to the environment as opposed to into the inner air space.

HOWEVER this applies to clothes that have large airspaces between it and the body. If wearing tighter clothing, say a jersey, larger amounts of heat can transfer to the skin without the insulation of air to protect the wearer. This heat may overheat the body directly OR prevent inner heat generated by the body from escaping due to a lower temperature gradient.

I'm talking myself in circles; theres a lot to consider and I just scraped by in thermodynamics classes. The point is, there may not be a single answer for all conditions.

Pretty simple in humans. That vast, vast majority of heat is lost through evaporation. Black absorbs more energy and contributes but you need to have sweat and movement through a medium to dissipate heat.
 

sheepbender

Juniors
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517
Excellent jersey! Better than the effort the Donkeys rolled out for a home jersey this year!


I was hoping it would be good, its alright, its not as good as some of the other indigenous jerseys, but its still miles better than the home jersey..
 

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